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Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:02 AM

 

Breaking: Jeffrey Epstein commits suicide

Just saw on ABC.

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Reply Breaking: Jeffrey Epstein commits suicide (Original post)
Trumpocalypse Aug 10 OP
zaj Aug 10 #1
mainstreetonce Aug 10 #2
zaj Aug 10 #6
Mike 03 Aug 10 #12
samplegirl Aug 10 #3
Oneironaut Aug 10 #10
Mike 03 Aug 10 #13
Autumn Aug 10 #4
get the red out Aug 10 #21
Demovictory9 Aug 10 #24
tinrobot Aug 10 #37
Autumn Aug 10 #46
lark Aug 10 #5
panader0 Aug 10 #7
bearsfootball516 Aug 10 #9
Autumn Aug 10 #35
ProudLib72 Aug 10 #8
randr Aug 10 #11
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #22
LisaL Aug 10 #27
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #30
polichick Aug 10 #14
Mike 03 Aug 10 #15
zaj Aug 10 #17
Mike 03 Aug 10 #36
Major Nikon Aug 10 #19
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #23
LisaL Aug 10 #25
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #28
LisaL Aug 10 #31
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #32
LisaL Aug 10 #33
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #42
Mike 03 Aug 10 #39
tinrobot Aug 10 #41
elevator48 Aug 10 #45
Major Nikon Aug 10 #16
Mc Mike Aug 10 #18
Leghorn21 Aug 10 #20
superpatriotman Aug 10 #26
Leghorn21 Aug 10 #38
Fla Dem Aug 10 #29
Buckeyeblue Aug 10 #34
Hortensis Aug 10 #40
StarfishSaver Aug 10 #43
Hortensis Aug 10 #44
SweetieD Aug 10 #47

Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:04 AM

1. Man, that's the surest way to end this investigation.

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Response to zaj (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:05 AM

2. Damn!!!

Damn!!

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Response to zaj (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:06 AM

6. How does someone in prison on suicide watch commit suicide?

Without "help" of some kind

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Response to zaj (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:11 AM

12. Good question

The autopsy might reveal something. We need to know the method he used, and if it was as a result of something possibly smuggled into him by a visitor.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:05 AM

3. Where were the guards???

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Response to samplegirl (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:09 AM

10. Killing him and staging a suicide.

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Response to Oneironaut (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:14 AM

13. I didn't want to speculate...

But since we're speculating, I'm wondering about cyanide smuggled in by "one of his visitors" (in quotes, because I mean one of his lawyers). Maybe this was a Godfather II situation where he simply had to go, and knew it.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:06 AM

4. While under suicide watch.

How very interesting.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:27 AM

21. Exactly!

Incredible negligence at best! One would think having a prisoner on suicide watch would be a common procedure that wouldn’t just get fucked up on Epstein?

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:32 AM

24. yeah

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Response to Autumn (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:48 AM

37. More like "Suicide? Watch!"

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #37)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:07 AM

46. How does one hang themselves under suicide watch?

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:06 AM

5. If true, I hope this is investigated very thoroughly, but bet Barr would suppress it.

Sure seems like drumpf had the most to lose, so convenient for him that his good buddy Epstein is no longer around to spill the beans and the case will be closed without his involvement in the rapes being made public.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:07 AM

7. I thought he was on suicide watch.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:07 AM

9. He was, makes me wonder if it was a hit and the guards were paid off to look the other way

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:47 AM

35. I read he hanged himself, in a cell under suicide watch.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:07 AM

8. They need to put "suicide" in quotes

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:09 AM

11. A lot of very powerful people are breathing again

I hope they found enough evidence left behind to gather all the slime up.

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Response to randr (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:29 AM

22. They shouldn't be

The evidence is still there. Other people are involved and can be charged and his estate can be sued.

His death won't necessarily make this go away.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:36 AM

27. Without Epstein there to testify it won't be so easy.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #27)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:39 AM

30. There's no guarantee Epstein would have testified

And his testimony wouldn't necessarily have been all that reliable anyway.

There's so much evidence already in the record and now one of the reasons for keeping the record sealed is gone since there's no longer an issue about not prejudicing a jury in his criminal case.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:15 AM

14. On to disappearing all those documents...

Barr and DeSantis probably have that covered.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:17 AM

15. The reason I do accept it might be suicide

Studying Jeffrey Epstein, this is a guy accustomed to a luxurious life who barely worked and only thought about one thing 24 hours a day and designed his entire life around it. And faced with an insurmountable case against him, and unable to get bond, why would he want to live?

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:19 AM

17. I believe he wanted to die, but someone in power wanted him to succeed

Either a guard, warden or someone else with even more power.

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Response to zaj (Reply #17)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:48 AM

36. THIS. Totally. n/t

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:22 AM

19. Let the memes begin

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:31 AM

23. Because Epstein committing suicide is so far outside the realm of possibility

it must be some kind of a conspiracy...

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:35 AM

25. I guess the idea that there were some powerful men that didn't want him to talk

is very far outside of realm of possibility.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #25)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:37 AM

28. Surely there were people who didn't want him to talk

That doesn't mean that Epstein wasn't suicidal, hadn't tried before and wasn't likely to try it again.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:39 AM

31. The jail was supposed to watch out for that.

I guess they looked the other way?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #31)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:41 AM

32. Possibly

Depends on whether he was still on suicide watch. It's not clear right now whether he was still on suicide watch.

Whatever, it's a mess and is gonna be a mess for some time to come.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #32)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:46 AM

33. He was just recently in a hospital for supposed attempted suicide.

How would he not be on suicide watch?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #33)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:55 AM

42. I've seen reports he may have been taken off suicide watch after an evaluation

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:50 AM

39. To me this is the best explanation.

He was suicidal and that was very convenient for a whole lot of people, one of whom may have helped him.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:54 AM

41. The guards were supposed to prevent him from killing himself.

I guess they must have been looking the other way.

Not a conspiracy at all. Happens all the time.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #23)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:07 AM

45. LOL. It is well within the realm of probability

 

that he was terminated. The people he could bring down had the power to do it. Why was he taken off suicide watch?

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:18 AM

16. Bless his piece of shit heart

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:20 AM

18. The Lee Atwater andy breitbart retirement plan.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:23 AM

20. Hey Ghislaine Maxwell - step to the front, motherfucker




this thing’s just gettin started

hang tough, my friends

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:35 AM

26. She will never see a day in court

IMO

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #26)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:49 AM

38. I'm eerily calm, s - Maxwell or some other witness will lay this thing wide open......dammit

(fingers crossed painfully tight)

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:37 AM

29. Just like in Putin's Russia. Mysterious death of anyone who might compromise the Leader.

The guy was under suicide watch for god's sake. I really would hate to think Trump or his minions had anything to do with this. Steven Miller maybe.

Update 9:45am: Just heard he was taken off suicide watch. WHO ordered that????

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:47 AM

34. You would think the state would have been compelled to keep him alive

Given the high profile of this case. I get that if someone was determined to commit suicide it is tough to combat. But I thought when you were on suicide watch you were given minimal clothing and flimsy blankets.

It seemed like he was reckless and left damning evidence all around. If I was one of his victims I would be pissed. They were finally going to get their day in court.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 09:52 AM

40. The farthest I'll speculate is that he was allowed to kill himself

by not removing the means after his supposed first attempt, including privacy.

As for those who're already deep in murder conspiracies, please stop short of black plastic bags and a substitute body. No, I don't know why minds would go that way, but that's the way conspiracies work -- hit a little rock that shouldn't be there, and new beliefs are manufactured to explain it. Likely some are already speculating about Clintons involvement, maybe providing the body while their partner in sex trafficking was spirited out, but that's for other forums.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #40)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:00 AM

43. The problem with conspiracies is that they need no proof but can never be disproven

Any evidence of a lack of conspiracy is simply treated as proof of the existence of the conspiracy ("that's what they WANT you to think" ... "That was planted to make it look like there was no conspiracy," etc.)

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #43)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:04 AM

44. Yes. The other problem is that they're implanted as memories.

Even in honest, sensible people, awareness that insidious, unsubstantiated rumors and speculations are only that is often scrubbed while storing.

And distrust and suspicion by distrust and suspicion, already vulnerable minds get spun and rabbit-holed.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 10:12 AM

47. Come on.

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