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Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:16 PM

Epstein accuser named former governor, senator in testimony: prosecutors

https://thehill.com/homenews/news/456923-epstein-accuser-named-former-governor-senator-in-testimony-prosecutors

A woman testified that Jeffrey Epstein sent her to have sex while she was underage with former New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (D) and former Sen. George Mitchell (D-Maine), allegations the two men deny.

According to court documents made public Friday, Virginia Giuffre testified in 2016 she was also sent to have sex with asset manager Glenn Dubin, modeling executive Jean Luc Brunel and the late MIT scientist Marvin Minsky, expanding on past claims that she was used as a “sex slave” for Epstein from 2000 to 2002.


This is going to get interesting.

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Reply Epstein accuser named former governor, senator in testimony: prosecutors (Original post)
Drunken Irishman Aug 9 OP
Pachamama Aug 9 #1
Drunken Irishman Aug 9 #2
Pachamama Aug 9 #4
mopinko Aug 9 #5
Drunken Irishman Aug 9 #7
Metatron Aug 9 #13
UTUSN Aug 9 #3
Blue_true Aug 9 #9
UTUSN Aug 9 #11
Blue_true Aug 9 #12
UTUSN Aug 9 #14
Blue_true Aug 9 #15
UTUSN Aug 9 #17
zackymilly Aug 9 #6
RockRaven Aug 9 #8
JI7 Aug 9 #10
Polybius Aug 9 #16
Raine Aug 10 #18

Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:19 PM

1. I believe that Bill Richardson and George Mitchell - along with many other prominent

businessmen and politicians (both sides) are sweating profusely right now about what will be coming out.

Epstein had many women that were his "sex slaves"....it wasn't just Virginia Giuffre....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:20 PM

2. It's a shame Richardson's name is tied to this...

I always liked him. But now? Ew. Hope, if it's true, he gets locked up too.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:22 PM

4. There are many Priests, soccer coaches, etc. over the decades that have done so many

...great things and were well liked...but they were also simultaneously engaging in raping minors.

Its very hard sometime to wrap your brain around how someone can be "so good" and then "so bad"....the duality.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:36 PM

5. he has been accused in the past.

iirc that is what sunk his presidential bid in '08.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:45 PM

7. I don't know if that's what doomed him in 2008...

Even without any hint of scandal, he wasn't going to beat Hillary or Obama. Thing is, he was vetted to be Obama's VP, as well as rumored to be SoS before it was offered to Hillary, so, the rumors must not have been that significant.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:58 PM

13. Yes, I remember that, too. n/t

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:20 PM

3. Are these "distinguished" jerks so desperate and pathetic.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:19 PM

9. Men that do that are not desperate, they are perverts.

They could have legal aged women if they wanted that. Underaged girls turn them on more.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:29 PM

11. So RICHARDSON and George MITCHELL were doing underaged girls?

These TO ME were *names* that meant some kind of "reputation" to me, not in the league of FDR to get me to jump from my chair at attention, but somebody to be respected.

Am not going to be surprised about the rest of the ones who haven't been released yet.






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Response to UTUSN (Reply #11)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:38 PM

12. That was an allegation. Both denied having done so.

I was speaking of the general problem of people having sex with underaged partners, regardless of the circumstances. It is perversion.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #12)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:05 PM

14. Well, I understand what the perversion/revulsion is, am reacting to the names with shock.

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:16 PM

15. Honestly, I have viewed Richardson with some suspicion for a long time.

He just came off as too much of a smoozer. But if Mitchell is somehow involved, that would be massively disappointing, I have always held him in high regard.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 11:01 PM

17. Well, my ??? about RICHARDSON was his ditching Hillary back in the day

when I didn't know who OBAMA was. When that primary was over, I became a bigger OBAMA booster than what it appeared his original supporters were. But the subject is RICHARDSON, never a star for me, just what I thought was a reliable Dem. So I was just perplexed about him. Then this/whatever/goodbye (to him, not you).













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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:40 PM

6. She also said she had sex with Prince Andrew and with Alan Dershowitz on multiple occasions.

Richardson, Mitchell and Dershowitz have all denied her allegations.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:51 PM

8. It would be a mistake for Democrats to be so partisan that we reflexively defend these people

instead of saying "If true, the accused should be indicted, tried, convicted, and sentenced."

Deplorables are going to come at us with every Democratic name that gets mentioned in connection with Epstein as if that somehow lets the Repukes off the hook. Don't put up with that. Point out that the difference between them and us is we think ALL the child rapists should've been in jail, and don't give a shit which party they are in.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:21 PM

10. nobody is defending them. nobody defended dershowitz

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:37 PM

16. I'm sure there will be Republicans linked too

The only reason there might be more Democrats named is because he was a Democratic donor. Still, Epstein seemed to have not been partisan. He hung out with Republicans (Trump) too.

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 12:31 AM

18. I've heard rumors about Richardson for decades

I don't care what party they belong to I want each and everyone of them exposed!

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