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Fri Aug 9, 2019, 03:22 PM

WERE EMPLOYERS ARRESTED IN RECENT ICE RAIDS? DHS won't comment

680 undocumented workers arrested in record-setting immigration sweep on the first day of school
By Dianne Gallagher, Catherine E. Shoichet and Madeline Holcombe, CNN
Updated 7:12 AM ET, Fri August 9, 2019

Authorities hailed Wednesday's sweep at food processing plants in six cities as a record-setting operation. At least 680 undocumented immigrants were detained. More than 300 of them had been released by Thursday, Bryan D. Cox, an ICE spokesman, said in a statement.

Eighteen juveniles were found working at the plants, according to Jere Miles, special agent in charge for the Department of Homeland Security. Nine were released and not taken for processing, Miles said. One was 14 years old, he said.

"I don't see illegals. I don't see bad people. It's only families, fathers, mothers who want something better for the kids, so they come here and just work," he said. "They are not criminals."

Authorities haven't publicly spoken about what sites were targeted, citing a pending criminal investigation. They've also declined to answer questions about whether any employers had been arrested or would face charges.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/08/us/mississippi-immigration-raids-children/index.html?utm_source=CNN+Five+Things&utm_campaign=bb6d555251-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_08_09_12_11&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6da287d761-bb6d555251-104928233

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:44 PM

1. The spokesperson I heard said that files had been confiscated.

That usually means they're trying to piece together which, if any, laws were broken by the employer.

If you don't know the text of the laws and how they apply to circumstances you can't know if they broke the laws. Just employing somebody without authorization isn't illegal--if you check e-Verify and the database is wrong, the government says, "Hey, he can work" and then, if they check and find out he wasn't authorized, it doesn't mean you did anything wrong.

Moreover, each unauthorized worker would be one count, and they can't file a single count until they've confirmed that the worker isn't authorized to work. Imagine that the employer's arrested, charged, and then two weeks later the 15 counts they were initially charged with turn out to rest on 15 people who turned out to be authorized. You have to check these things out--that's how the individuals' cases progress.

And if somebody did something wrong, then they have to determine if the company screwed up or if the company was wronged by its employee. And if the company did something wrong, to what extent can it be shown that they did so intentionally.

Due process vs. vigilantism.

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Response to Igel (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 08:03 PM

3. First, "680" undocumented workers" were arrested not 30...

You might want to revise the first sentence in your reply, because it suggests that these large corporations might not be guilty of any crimes.

You said: "That usually means they're trying to piece together which, if any, laws were broken by the employer."

Also, as a result, many of the chicken slaughtering plants - which were working children, who should have been in school, at the time of the raids - were forced to shut down as a result of the lack of workers. Almost every company that I worked for required ALL workers to furnish Social Security numbers, which they submitted to comply with several US Federal laws.

Here is a news article confirming the time of ICE raids, on a school-day.

Mississippi ICE raids: A manager speaks out at a plant that lost most its employees.
"Lian said he arrived at work around 8 a.m. Wednesday, shortly after the raid started."
https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/2019/08/09/mississippi-ice-raids-manager-speaks-out-poultry-plant-ph-foods-morton-lost-workers-detained/1961027001/

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 04:58 PM

2. Understand the Department of Labor

was ready to move on this Company due to harassment claims against the Manager.

They sure seems to be a ton of unanswered questions,one posting Wednesday mentioned a Cover Up for possible Criminal Activity.

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