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47of74 Aug 2019 OP
Laffy Kat Aug 2019 #1
Lars39 Aug 2019 #3
cwydro Aug 2019 #4
Lars39 Aug 2019 #5
cwydro Aug 2019 #9
Lars39 Aug 2019 #11
cwydro Aug 2019 #12
Codeine Aug 2019 #26
Lars39 Aug 2019 #30
Codeine Aug 2019 #31
Lars39 Aug 2019 #32
Codeine Aug 2019 #33
Sunsky Aug 2019 #7
Lars39 Aug 2019 #8
Sunsky Aug 2019 #14
Lars39 Aug 2019 #16
cwydro Aug 2019 #21
Lars39 Aug 2019 #22
cwydro Aug 2019 #24
FiveGoodMen Aug 2019 #27
Hoyt Aug 2019 #2
GoCubsGo Aug 2019 #6
cwydro Aug 2019 #10
47of74 Aug 2019 #17
cwydro Aug 2019 #19
jmg257 Aug 2019 #13
ksoze Aug 2019 #15
47of74 Aug 2019 #18
cwydro Aug 2019 #20
LexVegas Aug 2019 #23
Codeine Aug 2019 #25
cwydro Aug 2019 #28
samnsara Aug 2019 #29
whistler162 Aug 2019 #34

Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:05 PM

1. They would have to consult you first anyway due to HIPAA.

I don't think they could just waltz in with the Prez. and press in tow. I get where you're coming from, though. I can't think of anything worse than to see 45's hideous face while in a pain-and/or drug-induced haze.

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 01:57 AM

3. One of the things that happened under Dubya

was that HIPAA is suspended any time the president is within 100 miles of a hospital iirc, so that possible threats can be identified. My family was taking part in a medical study at Vanderbilt at the time this had just come down the pike and the researchers were *very* upset about it. 😕

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 05:07 AM

4. Huh?

That doesn’t even make sense.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:06 AM

5. iow, they could research any patient present or pasr

Still seems they would have to ask for visitation though.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:41 AM

9. Soo, patients in any hospitals in the DC or Palm Beach area did not have HIPAA rights?

I think you’ve been misinformed.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:57 AM

11. This was reported on DU during Dubya's first term iirc

Along with a lot of other crap. The multi-national team of researchers I came in contact with then confirmed it.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 08:24 AM

12. Show me that part of HIPAA.

Just because it was “reported on DU” doesn’t mean a thing.

Some of the things I’ve seen “reported” here have been completely false.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #26)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:43 PM

30. What's so funny about that?

It was a medical team of researchers that were from many different countries. My family was taking part in a medical study.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #31)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:54 PM

32. Wow.

We’ve interacted for years, Codeine. Never expected to be insulted by you.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #32)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 10:00 PM

33. You're right, that was uncalled for.

Apologies. I’ll delete it.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:20 AM

7. HIPAA can only be suspended on a limited basis

in a national/public emergency. The President doesn't have the right to my private healthcare information. I am sure any patient/family being identified will be asked to sign and agreement.

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Response to Sunsky (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:25 AM

8. They do it to investigate possible threats to POTUS

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 08:33 AM

14. The evaluation of such threat

does not mean HIPAA is suspended. It also does not mean the hospital can release your information without consent. You have the right to decline a visit from the President or your information being shared with the public. The need to know factor can be broadened to assess a threat, but your information is still accessible on a "need to know" basis.

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Response to Sunsky (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 08:47 AM

16. Seems a lot can happen under th Patriot Act.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:23 AM

21. Please direct me to that provision in the HIPAA law.

I’d like to read it.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:55 AM

22. I am going from memory...the search is yours cwydro.

Sorry you don’t remember some of the crap that came down the pike under Dubya.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 11:02 AM

24. I have searched.

I can find zilch.

I used to work for a compliance company. We got a lot of training on HIPAA; I think you were misinformed.

I imagine in national emergencies, they can suspend any of our rights, but in no way is that written into law that when a “president is within 100 miles” we lose our HIPAA rights.

You really believe that folks in the DC, New Jersey, and Palm Beach areas have no HIPAA rights? Nonsense.

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Response to Sunsky (Reply #14)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:25 PM

27. You're suggesting that the GOP will follow the rules this time

... for some reason


... that hasn't ever come up yet

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Wed Aug 7, 2019, 10:09 PM

2. Let trump or other GOPer in, then yell at them. Maybe get sick.

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:12 AM

6. I would agree to the visit.

But, only in front of media who can make audio recordings. I want to be able to tell them to go fuck themselves right to their faces, and I want it spread far and wide.

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 07:43 AM

10. You "told both local hospitals."

Curious how you did this? Call the administrators? Call the switchboard and tell the operator?

What was their response?

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Response to cwydro (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:11 AM

17. I used the contact us email

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Response to 47of74 (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:19 AM

19. And did you receive a response?

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 08:26 AM

13. Interesting - did they document your requests? Seems a weird thing to keep

in a hospital data base(?).

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 08:40 AM

15. Sorry, but that is a strange request to make

To presume you will be injured or dying in a manner which would elicit a visit by a politician of any party is a bit odd. I would instead focus on getting the current politician out of office - worrying the party affiliation of someone may visit you in a catastrophic incident is a waste of your time and the hospitals.

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Response to ksoze (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:13 AM

18. Well we have a Russian asset in the White House and we're in an odd time

And I will not have my privacy compromised by attention seeking politicians.

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Response to 47of74 (Reply #18)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:22 AM

20. No one can make you see anyone if you're in a hospital, or anywhere else for that matter.

The odds that you’ll be injured in an incident that garners political interest are pretty small lol.

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Thu Aug 8, 2019, 10:58 AM

23. Cool story, bro. nt

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:21 PM

25. Oh good grief, you did no such thing. nt

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Response to Codeine (Reply #25)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:25 PM

28. Lol, thank you.

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Fri Aug 9, 2019, 09:28 PM

29. same here

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Response to 47of74 (Original post)

Sat Aug 10, 2019, 08:42 AM

34. and then they put you on a 48 hour hold

in a nicely padded room.

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