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Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:51 PM

Just Learned that the Dayton Shooter..

Shot his own sister at the scene.. That the area of the murders is basically a Black Geographic area... That perhaps the killer was upset that his sister was frequenting the area and he could not take it...Most of the dead were Black...

I have no link.. but just listened to the press conference in Dayton held by the City and this was mentioned by a CNN Commentator... City will update info in about 2 hrs.

No link

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Reply Just Learned that the Dayton Shooter.. (Original post)
busterbrown Aug 2019 OP
uponit7771 Aug 2019 #1
dalton99a Aug 2019 #4
lame54 Aug 2019 #2
triron Aug 2019 #3
cwydro Aug 2019 #5
lame54 Aug 2019 #7
Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #15
LenaBaby61 Aug 2019 #6
AkFemDem Aug 2019 #8
OneGrassRoot Aug 2019 #9
Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #13
OneGrassRoot Aug 2019 #17
hughee99 Aug 2019 #12
Codeine Aug 2019 #16
Backseat Driver Aug 2019 #14
OilemFirchen Aug 2019 #10
Heron5 Aug 2019 #11
Ms. Toad Aug 2019 #18
Whiskeytide Aug 2019 #19
KentuckyWoman Aug 2019 #20

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:53 PM

1. K&R, there's a twitter link with the Local LEO saying it was 6 blacks out of the 9 shot and his ...

... sister.

Some are proffering his sister was dating a PoC,

Fuck 3 white supremacist terrorist attacks in less than a week and few of the people we pay want to point this shit out !!!

Amen to those who are speaking truth to power that are in power now.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:01 PM

4. +1. El Paso mass murderer targeted Hispanics. Dayton mass murderer targeted African Americans.


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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:54 PM

2. Unconfirmed but...

Reported he was at Cincinnati Trump rally Thursday

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Response to lame54 (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 12:58 PM

3. I figured as much.

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Response to lame54 (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:04 PM

5. Reported by whom?

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Response to cwydro (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:17 PM

7. Good on you for calling me out...

Read it earlier but can't find the source

Will put it in the rumor column

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Response to lame54 (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 03:09 PM

15. I did read a post somewhere wherein the poster had

wondered if he'd attended that rally but NOT that he had actually done so...be careful to not spread possible inaccuracies that can fire up rumors before the real facts are determined.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:15 PM

6. It wouldn't shock me if this pig was a White Nationalist.

I have a friend from nearby Bellbrook, a suburb outside of Dayton. I've spoken of her often here on this site. She's the one who cut her relatives loose post her LAST family picnic there in 2016, because they didn't like the fact that she's married to a black man, and because she voted for Hillary Clinton. She told me years ago that Bellbrook was an extremely racist place. Since 2016, she tells me that her life is more peaceful and calm because she no longer speaks with her family, and she tells me that her family is DEAD to her. Also that she'll never step foot back in Bellbrook ever again.

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:19 PM

8. It's so weird if that's the case because

His parents are apparently progressive. Usually progressive parents donít raise right wing lunatic racists....

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Response to AkFemDem (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:23 PM

9. True, but they're being...

radicalized online, just like ISIS.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #9)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 02:49 PM

13. And by peers

The Dayton area is a very racially, religiously, and economically polarized community. Government has been trying for many years to educate and bring softened viewpoints, but the current WH has absolutely not been helpful; hence the GOP candidate became governor, and his first order of business was to ease gun regulations. I'm a long-time Ohio resident of three of the larger cities in this state, but refuse to even consider living in the Cincinnati area/corridor to Dayton. Let's not forget that the WPAFB borders the community, and MUST obey or at least voice public approval of their fearful and racist Commander-in-Chief who is bent on dividing American communities through bizarre chaotic leadership of the GOP (or vice versa if owned by those with financial entanglements with Putin, notwithstanding his own embraces) and cozying up to monied interests with an agenda. The AF is also rife with intolerant evangelical RW Christians who support underlying GOP white privilege and decry the LGBTQ community. The inhibition of women's reproductive rights is also a widely held opinion among a large active portion of the "churched" community. Ohio's districts are now heavily gerrymandered to keep GOP in the leadership positions. RW evangelical religious sects have high membership that cross economic status who prefer to "shun the sinners." It's not unusual for young persons to have either misguided rebellious viewpoints or even stronger political stances than their parents. (I suppose this is the natural order of things as teens test their familial limits or go along to get along with relatives, anyhow). Ever heard of Whiggers? It's a derogatory term for persons who don't have a White Nationalist ideology in this community, those that treat racially different "others" with whom they live in community with respect. Never heard that term anywhere else before I moved around the state. Indeed, I was warned off-the-record by a realtor about choosing a home in a suburb to the north of Dayton. That recent tornado tore right down the street on which I lived. To the northwest in rural Ohio, the area around El Dorado is known for being historically linked to the KKK.

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Response to Backseat Driver (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 06:54 PM

17. Yes, I know that term...

I grew up in the SW PA - Pittsburgh -- area. Whiggers is used there too.

Thanks for more insight into the area where you live. All the ugliness that's ever been in this country, which is a lot, is bubbling to the surface now.

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Response to AkFemDem (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:37 PM

12. And he appears to have been a registered Dem and active voter since 2016.

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Response to AkFemDem (Reply #8)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 03:47 PM

16. Why not?

Plenty of progressives were raised by right wing lunatics. Rebellion takes many forms.

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 03:04 PM

14. So proud my family is a

melting pot of races and cultures - I tease the unmarried in the family of bringing in those not yet represented, LOL, and also so reluctantly have agreed, at their request, not to contact those close relatives who have expressed their hesitation with mixing up the "human" DNA codes, and those expressing the desire that their stance as fundamentalist Christian overlords of correct opinion and behaviors go unchallenged! To me, that IS being "the better person" and has also given me much less familial drama over many years. Love 'em and miss 'em, but NO!

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:25 PM

10. No. The Oregon District (historic neighborhood) is high-end, vast majority white.

The entertainment district is mostly populated by young, white patrons. You can't presume his motive based on demographics.

The bar patio, OTOH, is the one of the busiest and most mixed, along with the adjacent Toxic Brew patio. Those are the only open patios facing the street.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Sun Aug 4, 2019, 01:35 PM

11. Long-standing Anger Issues?

Local TV WHIO reported a former high school classmate recalled Betts wrote a hit list on a bathroom wall. High school principal from that period said he would not dispute reports that Betts was suspended for causing a lockdown over the hit list.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:40 PM

18. Also a popular LGBT area -

According to a black friend who would have been there, but for a sick cat that kept her home. A friend of her cousin was one of those killed.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 08:49 PM

19. I recall - but can't find it now - reading ...

... about the sister being a victim earlier today. The understanding was that she and her male companion - also killed - actually went there with him earlier in the evening. I donít know if that has been debunked or not.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 09:01 PM

20. Local Dayton news says they really don't know.

He killed his sister and one of his friends. The shooting lasted 30 seconds.

It hasn't been said outright but all the reporting seems to be leaning toward the start being a family issue that got him so hopped up he just shot everyone.

The outside of Dayton news is trying to force a racial motive to get ratings I guess. Locals aren't really even considering that from what I've seen.

The witnesses speaking out feel it was random.. whatever moved. The pictures of the faces of victims bear out that he was hardly there looking for a certain skin color.

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