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Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:08 PM

So, where was the good guy with the gun? An open carry state...

and not one person around to take this guy out?

OK, it's time to just take the toys away. Nobody needs to hunt to eat any more. And if they don't have the cash for buck a pound pork at the store, they sure don't have the hundred bucks it'll cost for the gas and bullets to shoot one in the wild. (Shit, some of them can blow the whole hundred on beer.)

Home defense? Yeah, that might make some sense, so keep the damn gun at home where it might do some good. We can work something out for days at the range for practice and training.

I have to wait an hour or two at the border now just to grab dinner in Montreal, and that's after getting the special driver's license. If my right to travel to Canada can be so easily interfered with, howcum someone else's right to carry a weapon of war is sacrosanct?








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Reply So, where was the good guy with the gun? An open carry state... (Original post)
TreasonousBastard Aug 3 OP
SHRED Aug 3 #1
Midnight Writer Aug 3 #2
TreasonousBastard Aug 3 #4
Skittles Aug 3 #8
Midnight Writer Aug 3 #12
Eliot Rosewater Aug 3 #3
raccoon Aug 3 #5
doc03 Aug 3 #6
Skittles Aug 3 #7
lame54 Aug 3 #9
albacore Aug 3 #14
DVRacer Aug 3 #10
customerserviceguy Aug 3 #11
GulfCoast66 Aug 3 #15
customerserviceguy Aug 5 #19
Tbear Aug 3 #13
GulfCoast66 Aug 3 #16
customerserviceguy Aug 5 #20
moondust Aug 3 #17
aikoaiko Aug 3 #18

Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:10 PM

1. Outlaw high capacity magazines and semi autos

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12 gauge shotgun and/or a home security system for home defense.

There ya go.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:16 PM

2. Every "good guy with a gun" needs to think of what happens when the cops show up.

You are standing in the middle of a massacre, an active shooter situation, and you are holding a gun. Cops show up, adrenaline rushing, expecting a possible shootout.

What happens next?

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:25 PM

4. William Btratton, police commissioner of NY, LA, and Boston...

was on somewhere talking about police training for just that, among other things.

Military training is to "take the hill". Police training is to save the hill-- there is a huge difference.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:19 PM

8. when those five cops that were ambushed in Dallas

other cops said citizens carrying weapons very much complicated the situation, slowed them down

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Response to Skittles (Reply #8)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:07 PM

12. How do you determine your enemy in a kill zone? You look for the non-uniform guy with a gun.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:18 PM

3. We are too far gone due to rightwingers with the IQ of 8 yr olds and maturity of

9 year olds including and especially rump

They will keep shooting us, that much I am certain of

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:26 PM

5. THANK YOU, THANKS A MILLION. nt

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 07:36 PM

6. Honestly to a Trump supporter the shooter

was the good guy with a gun.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:18 PM

7. crapping their pants and running, just like everyone else

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:31 PM

9. Open carry is reserved for white neighborhoods

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Response to lame54 (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:26 PM

14. Yes...

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 08:34 PM

10. Just so folks don't get tripped up

This is a gun free zone and in Texas when properly posted it is against the law to violate and carry anyway.

“Possession of any weapon at Simon malls, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of mall policy. This policy is intended first and foremost to maintain a safe, secure and comfortable environment at our malls, which has always been our top priority, and to avoid any situation that could potentially place at risk the safety of our shoppers and employees.

Simon malls are private property, and like virtually every other facility in the community that is accessible by the public, ownership/management has the right to prohibit the possession of weapons, both displayed or concealed, other than licensed weapons carried by law enforcement personnel.

Julie Rigby – Longview Mall Manager”

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Response to DVRacer (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 09:58 PM

11. And by extolling that it is a gun-free zone

the shooter knew that he could get off a lot of fire before anyone would be able to stop him.

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Response to customerserviceguy (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:47 PM

15. Oh what bullshit.

I own guns. Including handguns.

No one is taking down a person with a semi-auto in a Wal-Mart with a 9mm handgun.

First, most would be running like hell to get out of there. I know guys that carry. Few even practice monthly. And they have never fired their gun under stressful situations. They would be shitting their pants.

And I bet most of those people were killed in the first 3 minutes. No civilian is responding that fast.

Finally, unless you get the drop on him from 20 feet or less, you are missing. Hell, even most police miss at 10 feet in a real life situation. Adrenaline!

20 feet with a long gun is like the gun against the head! You know this is true. Stop living out the movies you watch

We’ve tried arming up the population. It’s been a catastrophic failure. How about we try something else. No high capacity(magazine size)firearms at all. Carry a gun around you go to jail. Neither violates the 2nd amendment.

Continuing to the same thing and expecting different results was Einstein’s definition of insane. I agree.





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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #15)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:30 AM

19. All I'm saying is

that the announced no-gun-zone policy made the place a target. I was not speculating on what "a good guy with a gun" could or would have done.

When I was working, we had a meeting about what to do in an active shooter situation. It was revealed that our company had a no-gun policy. I asked if that fact was broadcast to the community. I stressed that if we said, "We hate icky guns, and don't allow any of our employees to carry one," all we'd do is make ourselves a target for an angry customer who wanted to screw with us. And since I was the one at the front counter, I'd get the first bullet.

They listened to me, and didn't publicize the policy. This mall, by publication of its policy, made its customers targets. I'm not advocating arming anyone, just advocating making it obscure (or better yet, unknown) whether or not an active shooter can expect any resistance at a soft target.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:19 PM

13. Yup. Advantage to the Nutjob

Declared gun free zone means a good guy with a gun breaks the rules to shop there, or doesn't shop there.

Most legally armed civilians will avoid business's that don't want them as a matter of principle.

The store posts signs saying no firearms, and you are calling the good guys with a gun pussies for not being there to defend you?

There needs to be some changes, I only know that the first step is getting the Instigator in Chief out of our White House. This wave of Nazi attacks is ALL on him. Kremlin Don the Con.

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Response to Tbear (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 10:50 PM

16. That's a load of crap. Tired of typing on my phone. Read my response to the previous post.

It’s just as appropriate to yours.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #16)

Mon Aug 5, 2019, 12:31 AM

20. And just as incorrect. n/t

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 11:15 PM

17. The "good guy" was there.

It's just that he was a "good guy with a gun" yesterday. Today he was somebody else. Stuff happens.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Original post)

Sat Aug 3, 2019, 11:16 PM

18. Apparently there was one, but he decided to holster his weapon and help children escape the store.


No kidding.

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