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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:00 PM Aug 2012

Obama Campaign On Ryan’s RNC Speech: ‘He Lied’

Obama Campaign On Ryan’s RNC Speech: ‘He Lied’

Stephanie Cutter, deputy campaign manager for the Obama campaign, didn't mince words on Thursday when asked about vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan's factually dubious speech at the Republican National Convention.

Cutter told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell that many of Ryan's claims — including the oft-invoked attack on the president for the closure of a Wisconsin auto plant that was actually shuttered when former President George W. Bush was still in office — were more than merely misleading.

"Well, you know, Andrea, there's no delicate way to put this, but he lied," Cutter said. "He blatantly lied and brazenly. A number of different things have been fact checked by members of the media, independent fact checkers."

Cutter continued her pointed criticism later in the interview.

"Facts are powerful things. We didn't hear many of them last night," Cutter said. "And one thing that we didn't hear is one idea, one tangible idea of how to move the country forward. Paul Ryan was picked as Mitt Romney's running mate because of his intellectual leadership. He was an intellectual leader of the Republican Party. You couldn't prove that to anybody last night watching that speech."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/obama-campaign-on-ryan-rnc-speech-he-lied


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Obama Campaign On Ryan’s RNC Speech: ‘He Lied’ (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
I like to see this. More of this, please. phantom power Aug 2012 #1
Good. Now keep using the L word. cali Aug 2012 #2
Ryan's lying to YOU grasswire Aug 2012 #3
And did ms. greenspan piss her already wet panties ? russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #4
Kick! n/t ProSense Aug 2012 #5
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #6
Do you like pizza? hifiguy Aug 2012 #7
Ryan's SIGNATURE (pic, pdf via house.gov): knew of plant closing in June 2008 Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #8

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Bernardo de La Paz

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8. Ryan's SIGNATURE (pic, pdf via house.gov): knew of plant closing in June 2008
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 04:36 PM
Aug 2012

Here's the letter with Ryan's June 2008 signature acknowledging the closing (pdf via house.gov)

Signed, June 3, 2008

http://paulryan.house.gov/uploadedfiles/ltr_gm_060308.pdf

Technically, the Ryan line is that the President failed to "keep it open".

Technically, the plant had a hundred workers paid after the main line closed Dec 23, 2008, to keep a small line open to fill out a truck order until April 2009.

However, the basic fact that the weasel would have you not know is that the plant closing was accelerated by the Republican President who applauded GM for being "adaptable" in closing that and other plants. The plant was slated to close in 2010 (see letter below) but was accelerated and closed in 2008 except for an essentially inconsequential amount of work for a few months.

[font size = "+1"]Fact: [/font]It was all decided and finalized by time Obama took office.


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