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Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:08 AM

Moscow Mitch KNEW "The Fix Was In"

In case you're wondering why #MoscowMitchMcTreason blocked the #MerrickGarland nomination even when Hillary was considered a shoe-in who'd no doubt pick someone more progressive, it was because the stinking little #traitor knew the election was rigged for Trump.
The fix was in.




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Reply Moscow Mitch KNEW "The Fix Was In" (Original post)
kpete Jul 2019 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2019 #1
malaise Jul 2019 #2
FakeNoose Jul 2019 #3
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #7
bearfan454 Jul 2019 #15
Mr.Bill Jul 2019 #4
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #8
Eyeball_Kid Jul 2019 #29
alwaysinasnit Jul 2019 #35
Baltimike Jul 2019 #58
Texin Jul 2019 #11
bearfan454 Jul 2019 #16
CrispyQ Jul 2019 #19
Johnyawl Jul 2019 #5
spanone Jul 2019 #6
KPN Jul 2019 #9
catbyte Jul 2019 #10
MFGsunny Jul 2019 #12
Botany Jul 2019 #13
thesquanderer Jul 2019 #14
JHB Jul 2019 #17
stopdiggin Jul 2019 #31
thesquanderer Jul 2019 #32
stopdiggin Jul 2019 #33
Baltimike Jul 2019 #18
Botany Jul 2019 #22
Baltimike Jul 2019 #25
Botany Jul 2019 #28
stopdiggin Jul 2019 #36
Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #55
stopdiggin Jul 2019 #59
Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #60
stopdiggin Jul 2019 #61
Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #62
marieo1 Jul 2019 #20
Pepsidog Jul 2019 #24
maddiemom Jul 2019 #50
Pepsidog Jul 2019 #21
renate Jul 2019 #23
EarlG Jul 2019 #26
FailureToCommunicate Jul 2019 #46
oasis Jul 2019 #27
Meadowoak Jul 2019 #52
oasis Jul 2019 #53
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #30
volstork Jul 2019 #34
dawnie51 Jul 2019 #37
trof Jul 2019 #38
LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #39
diva77 Jul 2019 #41
dchill Jul 2019 #40
UpInArms Jul 2019 #42
ReformedGOPer Jul 2019 #43
bucolic_frolic Jul 2019 #44
Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #45
PoliticAverse Jul 2019 #47
jg10003 Jul 2019 #48
shraby Jul 2019 #49
Timmygoat Jul 2019 #51
Bluepinky Jul 2019 #54
calimary Jul 2019 #56
Baltimike Jul 2019 #57

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:42 AM

1. There is no doubt in my mind, NONE. n/t

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:43 AM

2. Ditto

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:46 AM

3. The fix was in - but how did Mitch know?

Did Pootie tell him directly?

This needs to be investigated thoroughly.


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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:57 AM

7. payment had already come through NRA from Russia

Wonder if there were any instructions from Putin attached to the payments?

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:40 AM

15. That is exactly what happened

Russia discovered how easy it was to let greed overtake standing up for your country. Moscow Mitch and the rest of the repukes are cashing in on letting Russia interfere in our elections.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:50 AM

4. I believe what the OP says is true,

but my question is if they are so good with fixing elections, how did we do so well in Congressional races in 2018? Is it because they are only capable of fixing national races because of the electoral college and not good at the local elections?

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:00 AM

8. big blue tidal wave

Rigging an election with a big enough margin to overcome a true grass roots wave would risk having gigantic wins where they should not happen. Any unforeseen, large turnout can therefore overwhelm ordinary cheating. You can only rig elections without fear if you have despotic power over the populace.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:52 PM

29. The hackers hide within the margin of error.

Big wins or big losses, reversed through hacking, would be easily tracked.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:31 PM

35. +1000

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:04 AM

58. this. nt

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:15 AM

11. I think the Rs let the Dems win it so they could sit on their collective hands for 2+ years after.

There has been no action in the senate since 2018. Moscow Mitch has blocked everything before anything can be brought to a vote. By creating a legislative dead zone, they block Dems' efforts to enact productive legislation, and coupled with the talk of Impeachment, they were hoping/banking on that legislative blockaid by Moscow Mitch to blame it all on the Dems for doing nothing productive except trying to throw tRump out office.

I fully believe that they had every mechanism in their arsenal to rig the mid-terms if they controlled the state and/or local districts. Regardless of the far greater numbers of Democratic votes in 2018, they still could have rigged the races for the Rs. God knows, we now know (and suspected after 2016) that Putin and his FSB had the wherewithal - and rethugs - permission to do so.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:42 AM

16. All internet connections from the Russian intelligence service were turned off

the day of the midterms.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:05 PM

19. The House is 435 elections.

The White House only takes hacking a few key states to impact the electoral college. I saw a documentary* last night about the 2016 election & the Russian influence via social media & it stated that about 70,000 people in four key states got Trump elected.

* "The Great Hack," on Netflix. Great discussion on data rights & how we should each have data rights as well as human rights. Check it out.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:55 AM

5. The reality is it wouldn't have mattered who won the election...


...Moscow Mitch had already said that if Hillary wins he'd hold that seat open for 4 years.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 10:57 AM

6. and now the fucker has the nerve to blame Obama.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:07 AM

9. There should be no question about this in anyone's mind. Skepticism can be a good thing, but

not in this case. Two plus two always equals four even when it seems objectively unlikely. At a minimum, Moscow Mitch knew that despite all of the early polls showing a slam dunk for Hillary (against any R candidate) Putin's assistance was in place and gave them a reasonable chance.

Will we ever learn the facts? That's the only real question.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:11 AM

10. Nobody will convince me otherwise.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:24 AM

12. THAT was the first dead give-away for me that TraitorTrump's Russian fix was in.


I mean, seriously, would Moscow Mitch ACTUALLY be waiting for Hillary to win??????

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:29 AM

13. As did Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, and Mike Pence

n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:38 AM

14. re:"even when Hillary was considered a shoe-in who'd...pick someone more progressive"

A less nefarious explanation:

There was always a CHANCE Trump would win. But if he'd lost as expected, there would still be plenty of time between election day and Jan 20 of the following year (when Hillary would be sworn in) to confirm Garland and prevent Hillary from going with someone more progressive.

Having taken the stand he did before the election, there was no reason for him to change his mind until after the election. So, this is no evidence of a fix, it was the logical thing to do, from the perspective of someone who wanted the best chance of the least progressive nominee. He took a no-lose strategy, no matter how the election turned out.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:48 AM

17. Precisely. The Republicans treated cooperation with Obama like it was poison...

...so Mich saw no upside to potentially confirming an Obama nominee.

The window for it, and IIRC Orrin Hatch said this explicitly, was that after a Hillary win they could approve Garland by telling their foamers that "Hillary would nominate someone worse", and by the next election said foamers would be on to something else and no one would hold their feet to the fire about Garland.

And a Trump win would let them steal the seat.

That's a political calculation that Mitch could make without Russian help.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 01:16 PM

31. wouldn't it be more likely that Garland would withdraw? (nt)

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 01:18 PM

32. Why should he? He presumably wanted the job.

Nor would Obama be likely to withdraw him in favor of another candidate, after repeatedly going to bat for what an outstanding justice Garland would be. What would be his rationale to make a change, how would that look?

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #32)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 01:45 PM

33. my thought was

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that Garland would no longer be the pick of the presumptive office holder. I know courtesy and respect are quaint, and somewhat dated, terms .. (and even more so 2 1/2 years on) I honestly don't know how it would play out. You might be quite right.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:57 AM

18. Indeed, Indeed, Indeed. The Russians RIGGED the election. nt

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #18)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:24 PM

22. And the Russians bragged about it too.

'U.S. spies slept' while Russia elected Trump, Russian politician says

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/09/12/russian-politician-american-intelligence-slept-russia-elected-president/660297001/

A Russian politician ridiculed the American intelligence community during a television appearance Sunday, saying it "slept through while Russia elected a new U.S. president."

Vyacheslav Nikonov, a member of the Duma Russia's parliament made the snide comment during a Sunday appearance on a Russian news program, Sunday Evening with Vladimir Solovyov.

"To achieve world dominance) the U.S. overextended themselves," Nikonov said, according to a translation from CNN. "Because the most recent tendencies, economical, military, even tendencies in the intelligence (services) which slept through while Russia elected a new U.S. president."

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Response to Botany (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:28 PM

25. This is very true....and I have no idea what this holy grail is about

not admitting to the fact that they changed votes. Yes. Voting machine votes. It's like the moratorium on calling someone lying a liar that was all the rage in the early 2000's. (Hence Franken's book)

I have no idea why they think people will not vote if they know about the vote rigging and not that people won't bother to vote if they keep getting lied to about what went down

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Response to Baltimike (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

28. To think that Putin and his minions would:

look @ the hardware and software of the operating systems for the voting machines and
central tabulators, send out all those spear phishing emails to election officials, exam the
cyber security of our voting systems, get inside information (data analytics) from the Trump
campaign, have an active presence in all 50 states, and steal all those voter d-bases and
not do anything like change the vote or remove voters from voter rolls is crazy.

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Response to Botany (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:37 PM

36. and yet, we're still waiting for evidence that they did.

when that evidence is produced (or attested to by reliable authority) I will be happy to concede the point. Until then, I am content to follow (fairly closely) what LE and intelligence sources are telling me.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #36)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:45 AM

55. Yeah and we're still waiting on absolute evidence for impeachment

But Trump is still a criminal.

The evidence is there just as described. We just don't want to accept it because it's not a smoking gun. Many a murder is solved without smoking gun evidence.

We may be unable to follow the full hacking of the vote count because Russian hackers have covered their tracks. If they are as good as our FBI thinks they are, Russia has hidden their footprint so well our counter espionage unit can't or won't find it.

Waiting for smoking gun evidence is just another way to hide the truth.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #55)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:26 PM

59. to decide guilt or innocence without evidence

is the definition of prejudice and injustice. (and, come to think of it, conspiracy and superstition as well) I don't think I'll be signing up.

--"We may be unable to follow the full hacking of the vote count because Russian hackers have covered their tracks. If they are as good as our FBI thinks they are, Russia has hidden their footprint so well our counter espionage unit can't or won't find it."--

To sum up .. "we can't find it, but we KNOW it happened". Okie dokie, then. But I'm not sure about Mothman or the Loch Ness Monster either. Cheers!

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #59)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 02:46 PM

60. No,there is plenty of evidence that Russian spies were into every single voting system in the US

There is just NOT smoking gun evidence that you think should be required. We have plenty of circumstantial evidence. Many a person has been convicted on circumstantial evidence alone.

Botany listed all the evidence for you:

1. Russians looked at the hardware and software of the operating systems for every state's voting machines and central tabulators.

2. They sent out all those spear phishing emails to election officials.

3. Spies from Russia examined the cyber security of every states's voting systems.

4. They got inside information (data analytics) from the Trump campaign.

5. And they stole many of the states's voter databases.

That is pretty damning evidence. To have done all that but then stopped, to have acquired all the information necessary to switch votes, change counts and remove people from the voting rolls so those people got placebo ballots and their votes did not get counted. To have gone to the edge and NOT change votes or manipulate counts is kind of useless and most reasonable people would NOT believe it.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #60)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 03:27 PM

61. that is pretty damming evidence .. of the things you (or Botany) STATE

and zero evidence of the things you infer MUST have happened.
--"to switch votes, change counts and remove people from the voting rolls so .."--
Where did this actually happen?

Isn't interesting that we were able to find forensics (and testimony) for the things you listed (that we all acknowledge happened) .. and yet silence on the score of actual switched/changed votes? "Coulda'/woulda/shoulda" is inference not proof. Your belief that something "must have" happened cannot stand in the place of evidence of what DID happen.

Sorry, Rick .. looks like we're just not gonna' agree on this one. You're entitled to your opinion (and it looks like you've got plenty of company) but I'm still waiting for something that looks like proof.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #61)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 05:19 PM

62. That is an impossible level of evidence you want.

But if you feel there is Not enough evidence to be convinced then that's fine. We all have to decide for ourselves what is sufficient evidence to believe.

I don't believe in any god because there is insufficient evidence of any such supernatural being. So, I respect your need for significantly higher standards of evidence.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:22 PM

20. Moscow Mitch

He definitely is 'Moscow Mitch' - he has never in his life done one good thing for our country - just like DJT- Moscow Mitch, Moscow Mitch, Moscow Mitch - describes him to a T and is a honest and realistic name for him. He can say otherwise all he wants but we all have been watching and listening to him for many years and the American people know. He has gone negative on ALL bills that will help us - the American people. He has always been a piece of crap!!

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Response to marieo1 (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:25 PM

24. Benedict Donald and Moscow Mitch ship them both off to Russia

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:23 PM

21. I'm generally not a conspiracy theorist, but I think you may be right in this case

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:24 PM

23. as I recall, there were a lot of Russians who also totally weren't surprised on election night

They weren't subtle about it, either.

And razor-thin margins (but just enough!) in the three states they needed? Winning the electoral college by 70,000 votes and losing the popular vote by THREE MILLION? Gee, what a surprise.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:33 PM

26. ...

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Response to EarlG (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 09:00 PM

46. Nice!

Awful, but spot on.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 12:35 PM

27. Moscow Mitch has to go!

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Response to oasis (Reply #27)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:58 AM

52. Please donate to Amy McGrath, if you can. She can beat him.

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Response to Meadowoak (Reply #52)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:03 AM

53. In the coming months I'll do what I can for McGrath. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 01:11 PM

30. FOLLOW this guy if you use twitter!

He's surprised at the attention.

His whole feed is great. He makes freeway signs and puts them up.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 02:03 PM

34. Of course it was.

I was suspicious from the moment he stonewalled Merrill Garland. Crystal clear.

Id love for the little shits dirty laundry to be plastered in every front page in the world.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 03:51 PM

37. There is no other explanation.....

and I have thought this from the jump. He's a POS.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:11 PM

38. Shoo in. As in "Shoo, cat!"

Sorry.
It's a compulsion.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:28 PM

39. And so did Karl Rove years ago.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:36 PM

41. Yes, we have our own homegrown election fraud bringing us down as well

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 05:29 PM

40. K&R.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 06:46 PM

42. Glad this is getting more recognition

Ive been saying it for quite a while now ...

I thought something was stinking to high heaven when he blocked it, saying the next president should nominate... HTF could he have been so certain that Hillary would not be that President?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 06:50 PM

43. Exactly. I always believed this once Trump won.

Why would the turtle ever trust the new justice to the new president, unless he knew how it was going to go.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:11 PM

44. Ain't no doubt about it

There is no wiggle room for another explanation

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 08:18 PM

45. THAT's what they're so afraid of.

If there are tapes, NSA has them. And thus Ratcliffe is sent after them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 30, 2019, 11:03 PM

47. Unless you seriously think McConnell would have confirmed someone more progressive than Garland...

that argument fails.

Also, had Clinton been elected McConnell could have gotten Garland confirmed in the time between the election and the time Clinton took office if he desired to do so.

So from a game theory prospective it was a Win-Draw strategy:
Trump wins a Republican nominee takes the court.
Trump loses either you confirm Garland anyway or continue saying no for 4 more years.




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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:11 AM

48. A few days before the election I saw Kellyanne Conway on TV

The interviewer was asking questions that presumed Clinton would win. Conway said "I think we're going to win. We have friends who are going to win this for us." I remember a sudden feeling of foreboding and fear. I thought "who are these friends? Why does this person, who always sounds like a clown, suddenly sound like she knows something?"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 04:25 AM

49. I figured that out right after the election. Why else would Moscow mitch put a hold on

Garland?
No other reason.

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Response to shraby (Reply #49)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 06:55 AM

51. Please folks

Do not stop calling him Moscow Mitch, I love how it gets under his skin. Draft dodger Donald has made a career of calling people names, let them have a taste of their own medicine.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 07:03 AM

54. Yes, and he held up filling boatloads of federal judge positions.

The Repubs have been playing the long game. Take over all three branches of government, executive, legislative and judicial. Game over.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 09:45 AM

56. Wouldn't surprise me.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Jul 31, 2019, 10:03 AM

57. kick

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