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tjdee

(18,048 posts)
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 11:36 AM Aug 2012

Lying Doesn't Matter: The Low Information, Undecided Voter

One thing that really disturbed me last night, and again today, was Lawrence O'Donnell's insistence that Ryan's speech was really effective even though it was riddled with lies. He said tha t most people who DO care and ARE informed already made up our minds, some of us years ago, so the speech was not for us.

It's not just Larry. Pundit after pundit is saying well, the facts were off but WOW that Ryan!

Is this the "New American Century"? Lie to people because they won't bother to look it up anyway? Do Americans like being treated like idiots?

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Lying Doesn't Matter: The Low Information, Undecided Voter (Original Post) tjdee Aug 2012 OP
I wonder if it would be better if CIVICS was taught, K-12 annabanana Aug 2012 #1
O'Donnell is absolutely right. The lies are effective Stinky The Clown Aug 2012 #2
Don't Forget "Independents" otohara Aug 2012 #3
The ugly truth: most voters are "low information" voters Spider Jerusalem Aug 2012 #4
Lying can be made to matter, but it will not happen on its own cthulu2016 Aug 2012 #5

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
1. I wonder if it would be better if CIVICS was taught, K-12
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 01:41 PM
Aug 2012

as something other than a 2 day review in Social Studies...

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
4. The ugly truth: most voters are "low information" voters
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 02:24 PM
Aug 2012

voter turnout in 2008 was 56.8 percent of the electorate (the highest since 1968). Of that 56 percent or so, about 70 percent are self-identified partisans, who are mostly people whose minds are already made up; most of those people are not news junkies or especially well informed, but base their decisions on a host of other things like an almost tribal partisan loyalty. The thirty percent or so of "swing voters" are probably not any worse informed than the average self-proclaimed Republican or Democrat, but they're less invested in the process on one side or the other and might as well be voting for American Idol.

And that leaves out the more than 40% of potential voters who don't bother at all.

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