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ansible

(1,718 posts)
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 12:15 PM Jul 2019

29 cats killed when 2 pit bulls escape from cages at Alabama animal shelter

Two pit bulls at an Alabama animal shelter escaped from their cages early Thursday morning and fatally mauled 29 cats, WTVY reported.

Workers at the Dothan Animal Shelter found the dead cats when they reported to work Thursday morning, the television station reported. “Those dogs forced their way out of a pen. Then, they pushed hard enough on galvanized bars to knock (the bars) out of their clamps,” shelter director Bill Banks told WTVY.That action enabled the dogs to push on the chain-link fencing and then attack the cats.

“These dogs were able to eat their way out, for lack of a better term, and attack these cats. That is horrible,” Dothan City Commissioner Beth Kenward told WTVY.Kenward said the shelter is outdated and believes the city should have helped to upgrade it a long time ago.Mayor Mark Saliba agreed, telling WTVY, “It's sad, and there is no doubt that (a new shelter) is overdue."

Banks said the pit bulls were brought to the shelter Wednesday. He told WTVY that no decision has been made about what to do with the dogs.

https://www.ajc.com/news/national/cats-killed-when-pit-bulls-escape-from-cages-alabama-animal-shelter/NY1BAv0KconXwjOgAGNH2L/

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29 cats killed when 2 pit bulls escape from cages at Alabama animal shelter (Original Post) ansible Jul 2019 OP
Since Adopting My Current Rescue Cat,... jayfish Jul 2019 #1
WTF onecaliberal Jul 2019 #2
"no decision has been made about what to do with the dogs" Codeine Jul 2019 #3
Put down the fuckers.... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #4
Exactly. Codeine Jul 2019 #7
Could be a no kill shelter... lame54 Jul 2019 #27
Then find the assholes that trained them and put them down! 🤬 Floyd R. Turbo Jul 2019 #8
I like this idea very much! get the red out Jul 2019 #44
Yup. Nice little doggie tearing fences apart... lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #17
Agree...jesus christ... dhill926 Jul 2019 #5
Pink juice. EllieBC Jul 2019 #34
Sadly my cat was killed this morning Buzz cook Jul 2019 #6
My condolences of the loss of your furry child. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2019 #9
I am so sorry essme Jul 2019 #10
Sorry to hear this Beringia Jul 2019 #11
I am very sorry for your loss. Codeine Jul 2019 #13
I'm sorry, buzz cook. dawg day Jul 2019 #26
I am very very sorry. NT SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #30
I'm so sorry backtoblue Jul 2019 #32
awwwwww, I am so so sorry Celerity Jul 2019 #36
I am so sorry get the red out Jul 2019 #45
No decision? Uh...put 'em down. nt LexVegas Jul 2019 #12
I strongly second that! nt raccoon Jul 2019 #38
Dumb ass in our neighborhood had a pit bull exboyfil Jul 2019 #14
Carry a putter. My Dad used to do that in his old age walking for his heart. lindysalsagal Jul 2019 #19
I have never lived in an area where people are so very responsible with their dogs as the NW. silentEcho Jul 2019 #21
Your experience shanti Jul 2019 #39
I am very fortunate where I live exboyfil Jul 2019 #42
In all fairness, the same could be said misanthrope Jul 2019 #43
Dog lawn ornaments exboyfil Jul 2019 #47
I'm not exonerating the dogs, or their trainers, but please people KEEP YOUR CATS INSIDE! MoonRiver Jul 2019 #15
Uh, the 29 cats in this story were at a shelter. milestogo Jul 2019 #16
Not sure but GusBob Jul 2019 #25
THANK YOU! shanti Jul 2019 #40
NOW can we consider a breed ban? Marengo Jul 2019 #18
On cats? SouthernProgressive Jul 2019 #31
... mcar Jul 2019 #20
But, nooooooooo, they're not dangerous. Goodheart Jul 2019 #22
That's 261 lives according to my math. nt zackymilly Jul 2019 #23
We had an incident here last summer where a pit bull killed an 11 yr old boy- family member Thekaspervote Jul 2019 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author JonLP24 Jul 2019 #29
That's about all they have in my local shelter too shanti Jul 2019 #41
That's heart breaking JustAnotherGen Jul 2019 #28
I'm not a fan of pitbulls but it's more on how whoever had those dogs before treated them. Afromania Jul 2019 #33
Our shelter has a sepetate building for dangerous dogs Farmer-Rick Jul 2019 #35
This is what a veterinarian I know said. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2019 #37
I don't understand Bayard Jul 2019 #46
The humans that breed and train fighting dogs misanthrope Jul 2019 #48
Bravo!! And those guys... Duppers Jul 2019 #49

jayfish

(10,037 posts)
1. Since Adopting My Current Rescue Cat,...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 12:22 PM
Jul 2019

I have rediscovered my deep affinity for cats. I cannot imagine what the workers went through emotionally when they came upon this awful scene. I am sorry they had to experience this.

lame54

(35,250 posts)
27. Could be a no kill shelter...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:49 PM
Jul 2019

They would need to make arrangements for a transfer to a shelter that can euthanize

Maybe that had not been done at the time of the interview

IF they are a no kill shelter

EllieBC

(2,987 posts)
34. Pink juice.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:09 PM
Jul 2019

That should be the decision.

And before someone mentions that chihuahuas bite more, you can punt a chihuahua that’s attacking a kid or a cat off the target. A pit bull? No it’s going to kill you too.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,675 posts)
9. My condolences of the loss of your furry child.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 12:40 PM
Jul 2019

Pets are our children, but with fur. They impact our lives in so many ways be they dog or cat, even Rat.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
26. I'm sorry, buzz cook.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:47 PM
Jul 2019

I lost a cat that way too. I still think of him, years later, but now with sad smiles instead of tears.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
14. Dumb ass in our neighborhood had a pit bull
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 12:55 PM
Jul 2019

charge me yesterday when I was walking my Aussie/Sheltie mix. I picked her up and yelled for the owner to come get this dog. Splash will respond if a dog gets near her and then it will be all over. A neighbor had to distract the dog. When I crossed the street and turned the corner, I saw the idiot standing in her backyard on her phone. I told her to get her dog in a pretty unfriendly fashion.

Earlier a corgi charged me. Fortunately Splash wasn't with me. I had my English Shepherd Arlo who is a teddy bear and not fear aggressive.

Why can't people control their dogs.

lindysalsagal

(20,554 posts)
19. Carry a putter. My Dad used to do that in his old age walking for his heart.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:04 PM
Jul 2019

You can really knock an attacker out with a putter.

 

silentEcho

(424 posts)
21. I have never lived in an area where people are so very responsible with their dogs as the NW.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:08 PM
Jul 2019

All the time I have lived here I have not seen dogs off leash. I walked the dog a couple times a day and not once have I had this issue. Not a lot of aggressive dogs, not the preferred breed. Other areas I lived, I was always concerned with the roaming dogs without owners around. I feel lucky being in this atmosphere that is so very dog friendly.

shanti

(21,674 posts)
39. Your experience
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:21 PM
Jul 2019

is what deters me from taking a daily walk or even getting a dog that I have to walk. I'm very afraid that a loose dog will attack me (not to mention the shady characters).

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
42. I am very fortunate where I live
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:30 PM
Jul 2019

I have never had a bad attack, and, in general, the other residents do a good job keeping their dogs on leash or behind fences. Strays seem to stay off of the bike trails. I always am on the lookout for an open garage.

I always here the dog is friendly. Well my Sheltie/Aussie was abused before we got her, and she is decidedly unfriendly towards other dogs. She usually starts some crap that my English Shepherd pays for. It so happened I had the right combination yesterday since neither dog can walk as far I as do now, I have been splitting the walks between them some. I would have hated the corgi to have charged Splash. It is a good little dog (I want one), but Splash would have attacked it if it got close enough.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
43. In all fairness, the same could be said
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:32 PM
Jul 2019

for those who let their cats roam. Ours dogs and cats stay inside both for their physical safety -- disease, cars and predators -- and their emotional well being. I see dogs on chains or isolated and ignored in back yards and roaming cats all the time and it makes me wonder why someone would bother getting a companion animal at all.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
47. Dog lawn ornaments
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 04:06 PM
Jul 2019

Our dogs (and the cat) are part of our family. My English Shepherd has been my personal trainer for 13 wonderful years (we got him from the shelter at a year old). He is entitled to his walks. It is sad he can't walk like he used to, but he still loves to go. Occasionally he puts a longer walk up on the board.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
25. Not sure but
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:42 PM
Jul 2019

I think the poster is implying the cats got picked up to the shelter because they were left roaming around by their ownets
Thats alot of cats tho. Maybe some were feral

shanti

(21,674 posts)
40. THANK YOU!
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jul 2019

The safest place for your cat is in your HOME. My cats haven't been outside in over 7 years. Before that, I let them out, but after one got sick (the neighbor was spraying the common fence with Roundup), they are strictly indoor cats. I'd never allow any cats of mine outdoors ever again, too many dangers. The same people that don't spay/neuter their animals are the same ones who allow them to roam, imo.

Indoors = longer lifespan too. Mine are 15 and 16.

Thekaspervote

(32,683 posts)
24. We had an incident here last summer where a pit bull killed an 11 yr old boy- family member
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 01:23 PM
Jul 2019

Our no kill shelter is full of pit bull and pit bull mix dogs. Obviously no one wants them. AZ for all it’s crazy politics is outlawing them. Anyone who owns one is allowed to keep the dog until it’s natural death.

You just cannot undo hundreds of thousands of years of evolution. The dog as a breed should be allowed to naturally go extinct

Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #24)

shanti

(21,674 posts)
41. That's about all they have in my local shelter too
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:27 PM
Jul 2019

Pit bulls/mixes and chihuahuas. I'm fine with them going extinct.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
33. I'm not a fan of pitbulls but it's more on how whoever had those dogs before treated them.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:03 PM
Jul 2019

They need to find those fuckers and put them under the jail. The dogs are beyond help at this point and should be put down.

Farmer-Rick

(10,129 posts)
35. Our shelter has a sepetate building for dangerous dogs
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 02:13 PM
Jul 2019

They need more funding.

I use to think it was always the owners that made dogs killers but after losing a very much loved, gently handled and pampered dog, I know dogs can take on an aggressive killer instinct all on their own.

I had a wonderful smart pampered mix breed with Rottweiler markings. He was neutered and well fed but he would kill any animal that crossed his path. When he killed a 150 pound breeding ewe, we knew he would have to go.

He went through chain link, woven wire and electric fencing to get at his prey. Sometimes dogs get blood lust and there is nothing you can do to stop them from killing other animals. In the wild that is an evolutionary advantage. It's probably why we can't breed it out of some dogs.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,861 posts)
37. This is what a veterinarian I know said.
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:05 PM
Jul 2019

She sees lots of pit type puppies that are just as sweet as can be . Then they hit puberty and become very dog aggressive. That is a problem with pits. They can be fine with people but be very dog and other animal aggressive.

And some aren't aggressive at all. Part if it is what the owners are like. And part is breeding.

She has no problem with a breed ban.

Bayard

(21,983 posts)
46. I don't understand
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 03:40 PM
Jul 2019

And the article doesn't say, how were the dogs able to get to the cats? Were the cats running loose in the shelter?

I think Pitbulls are like any other breed, where a specific trait is emphasized in the breeding, and continued to be focused on in subsequent breedings. You want a mean fighting dog? Then you breed 2 mean fighting dogs. You want dogs that will go nuts looking for vermin? You breed Doxies or Jack Russell's that make your yard look like Swiss cheese. Around here, LSD's (Livestock Guardian Dogs, like Great Pyrenees) are likely advertised as coming from, "working stock". Many Amish folks here raise sheep and goats, and need those flocks protected. The puppies are raised with the flock almost from birth.

Another good example: I used to adopt retired Greyhounds off the track. Those guys are born--and love--to run. We were in a coursing club, where various Sighthounds (Greyhounds, Whippets, Afghans, Borzoi's, etc. Dogs that hunt by sight instead of smell), would chase a motorized lure around a big grass field. It would zig and zag all over the place. The dogs were released in pairs or 3's, and they were just nuts for it. They got to "catch" the lure at the end--a plastic grocery bag. One time, someone showed up with a couple of show Greyhounds. They were gorgeous, with excellent confirmation. When the lure went off, they looked at it for a moment, and wandered back to their owner.

The point being, whether you want a working dog, a show dog, or just companions, a good breeder will study the genetics, and select their stock accordingly. With backyard breeders (where most Pitbulls come from), its always a crap shoot. One of the most heartbreaking things I've ever seen, was a story and picture, of a couple guys with a young pitbull. The dog refused to fight, so they cut off his ears, and threw them on the ground in front of him. The photo showed this sweet pup sitting there and looking at his own ears on the pavement. I still have nightmares about it.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
48. The humans that breed and train fighting dogs
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 04:53 PM
Jul 2019

are the lowest scum imaginable. What I would like to see happen to them can't be printed here.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
49. Bravo!! And those guys...
Fri Jul 26, 2019, 06:06 PM
Jul 2019

I could cut off their ears!! Seriously.

I couldn't agree more with what you posted. EXCELLENT! Your detailed post nailed the problem.



"Swiss cheese."

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