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Thu Aug 30, 2012, 05:21 AM

OMG! Even Fox is calling out Paul Ryan!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/08/30/paul-ryans-speech-in-three-words/


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The good news is that the Romney-Ryan campaign has likely created dozens of new jobs among the legions of additional fact checkers that media outlets are rushing to hire to sift through the mountain of cow dung that flowed from Ryan’s mouth. Said fact checkers have already condemned certain arguments that Ryan still irresponsibly repeated.

Fact: While Ryan tried to pin the downgrade of the United States’ credit rating on spending under President Obama, the credit rating was actually downgraded because Republicans threatened not to raise the debt ceiling.

Fact: While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush. Ryan actually asked for federal spending to save the plant, while Romney has criticized the auto industry bailout that President Obama ultimately enacted to prevent other plants from closing.

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Reply OMG! Even Fox is calling out Paul Ryan! (Original post)
pepperbear Aug 2012 OP
dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #1
pepperbear Aug 2012 #2
avebury Aug 2012 #3
OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #4
clydefrand Aug 2012 #22
OneGrassRoot Aug 2012 #23
tclambert Aug 2012 #5
aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #6
siligut Aug 2012 #14
TahitiNut Aug 2012 #7
NoMoreWarNow Aug 2012 #8
Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #20
gkhouston Aug 2012 #9
DeeDeeNY Aug 2012 #10
Rustycup Aug 2012 #11
Fumesucker Aug 2012 #13
Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #15
maddiemom Aug 2012 #21
Historic NY Aug 2012 #12
Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #16
byeya Aug 2012 #17
Javaman Aug 2012 #18
SkyDaddy7 Aug 2012 #19
imanamerican63 Aug 2012 #24

Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 05:27 AM

1. More economy with the truth here

FACT CHECK: Ryan takes factual shortcuts in speech

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1016&pid=40343

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 05:35 AM

2. "factual shortcuts"

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 06:26 AM

3. K&R nt

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 06:36 AM

4. Because Sally is their token liberal.

She's great (though how/why she works for/with them is beyond me).



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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:45 AM

22. Sally Kohn

I can't believe that Fox would allow her to tell the truth especially since she is a lesbian and has a child. She is just so different from the majority of the reporters on Fox News

Do you think they will talk about this article on Fox News?

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Response to clydefrand (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:51 AM

23. I highly doubt it, though she also appears on Fox TV (not just the website).

I usually see her comment on Facebook when she's going to appear on Fox. Of course, she rarely gets much time to actually make a substantial rebuttal.

Still, maybe her presence and arguments awaken some of the lemmings to another way of viewing things.



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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 06:43 AM

5. "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?"

"Germans?"
"Forget it, he's rolling."

That's what Ryan's speech reminded me of, Blutarsky's speech in Animal House. These guys really, really don't care about facts.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 06:43 AM

6. Ryan: "how dare that evil Obama have allowed me to downgrade the U.S. credit rating"

what it boils down to

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:07 AM

14. Yes, and I heard on MSNBC yesterday that we will go off a fiscal cliff if Obama is reelected

But not if Mitt gets in.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:15 AM

7. "attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations"

Ryan cleared the bar with ease ... an ease that portrays a political pathology Goebbels would admire.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:34 AM

8. what are the "three words"

 

"Full of Lies"?

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Response to NoMoreWarNow (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:25 AM

20. dazzling, deceptive and distracting are the words she used

 

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:37 AM

9. Okay, I wasn't suspecting that.

Is it backwards day at Fox? The bullshit generator's offline for repair?

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:44 AM

10. Wow

"to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention to facts, Ryan’s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech."

But that is always the case with Republicans. They count on people not really paying that much attention.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:55 AM

11. I am confused

While Ryan blamed President Obama for the shut down of a GM plant in Janesville, Wisconsin, the plant was actually closed under President George W. Bush.


How can you blame Obama for shutting down a plant then criticize him for saying GM didn't build that plant? If GM built the plant then aren't they at fault for closing it?
I also thought we had a huge debt and Obama was a fault now he is at fault for nto spending?

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Response to Rustycup (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:57 AM

13. Welcome to DU!

I hope you enjoy your stay!

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Response to Rustycup (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:08 AM

15. Wlecome to the "Through the Looking Glass World" of the Post-Modern Republican Party

If you're looking for a coherent political philosophy or logical consistency, you've come to the wrong place. The point of the Post-Modern Republican Party is to a) win elections and b) lower taxes and cut regulations. There is no "Item C" on their agenda. The whole business about abortion and gay marriage? Just something to keep driving the sheep in fly-over country to the polls every November. National Security? They don't care, other than if you destroy enough tanks and planes, their defense contractor friends will get to build more massively over-priced weapons. And if some soldiers get killed in the process? Well, that's just the price of doing business, now, isn't it?

They are a thoroughly despicable lot.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:27 AM

21. And Paul Ryan is the real "Manchurian Candidate,"

Courtesy of the Koch brothers. The last remake of that film had global big business, not Communism, as the enemy. Back then I think it was based on Halliburton. The Kochs were still under cover.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 07:55 AM

12. Lies & Damn Lies.....

It must be pretty bad when your own network thinks your a nitwit.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:14 AM

16. DU folks on Facebook....Please post this. And take pains to point out this comes from Fox News.

Last edited Thu Aug 30, 2012, 09:01 AM - Edit history (1)

I know it's been said before, but this really DOES need to go viral.

Edit: I posted this on face book less than thirty minutes ago, and it's been shared three times already.

Seriously. If you're on Facebook, post the link.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:20 AM

17. Factualesque, or Fact-Lite - It's good enough for the low information voters and the

 

typists and script readers at the MSM.

It was appalling wasn't it?

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:21 AM

18. Fox News, to me, sounds like someone who was forced to go to the prom with their sister. nt

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 08:23 AM

19. WE WILL SEE...

The Republicans know they can LIE & get away with it most of the time because we have an AWOL Press! The Republicans NEVER had to answer & have yet to answer the question of how they expect to lower the National Debt by lowering taxes?

They ran in 2010 on "JOBS JOBS JOBS" and not once voted on a jobs bill but voted 30-50 times on abortion bills & other none job related right wing BS...They have NEVER had to answer to that from the press either. While Obama has actually tried & succeeded in alot of his campaign promises & even tried & failed but he is constantly questioned by the press on immigration reform & other issues that were blocked by the GOP in both the House & Senate.

So, I am not so sure the GOP will be held responsible for all the LIES they have been telling the American people...And lets be honest here the folks who decide the elections is the small 5-10% who do not pay attention to politics until the conventions start & have no way of knowing who is really telling them the truth.

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Response to pepperbear (Original post)

Thu Aug 30, 2012, 09:47 AM

24. HMMMM!!!!!!!

This is where the lies come from!

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