I'm a left leaning Jewish person. I can't stand Israeli policy.

[ProudLib72]

Should I go back to where I came from?

Which would be Texas.

[democratisphere]

1. I agree with you.

Stay put. Texas is a mess.

[MicaelS]

5. Another daily dose of Texas bashing.

You do know a lot of Texans are working to turn this state blue, right?

If that is not good enough for you, well then ..

Bless your little heart!!!!!

[democratisphere]

15. Keep up the good work on turning it blue.

Any state that still has Ted Cruz and John Cornyn is a mess.

[hlthe2b]

29. You can do it. With lots of like-minded Coloradoans we've managed a light shade of blue....

since the more depressing days of Tom Tancredo, Doug Lamborn, Ken Buck Wayne Allard--and with what I sincerely hope is a 2020 overwhelming defeat of Cory Gardner, a bright royal blue!

[hlthe2b]

2. I only wish more American Jews who disagree with Israeli policies stood up to the RW's conflation

of such disagreement and criticism with anti-semitism. I feel certain the former is the majority opinion in the US, yet American RW conservatives have been able to define it in terms to cudgel progressive opponents.

[mr_lebowski]

6. I wish you luck with that ... arguing on DU's Jewish group that one can contest Israel's government

without being a raging anti-Semite ... got me banned from their group.

[zackymilly]

16. Uh oh.....

[richsonpoordad]

8. I only wish Israeli Jews who disagree with their government would speak up more.

[Wounded Bear]

13. Unfortunately, I think many wealthy Israelis are making money...

on land grabs in the Occupied Territories. Israel has virtually annexed it.

[Behind the Aegis]

11. Many do. There are scads of us who have spoken out against anti-Semitism from the right.

We have also spoken out against those who use anti-Semitism as a weapon to hide their other crimes.

Something to consider; how do you feel when men tell women how they should (or shouldn't) respond to issues involving women? How does it feel when a man comes along and says, "women just aren't doing enough to combat sexism?"

Edit to add:

Batya Ungar-Sargon: Why does Trump keep dragging Jews into his attacks?


Every Jew I know — whether Democrat or Republican — was horrified to read the tweets issued by President Donald Trump on Sunday morning. Somehow finding a new low to sink to, Trump suggested that Democratic Reps. Ayanna Pressley, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, all women of color, should “go back” to where they “originally” came from. (Three of them, of course, came from the same place where Trump did: the United States.)

And then it got worse: He connected his racist rant to Israel.

“When will the Radical Left Congresswomen apologize to our Country, the people of Israel and even to the Office of the President,” he raged at 6:45 Monday morning. “I can tell you that they have made Israel feel abandoned by the U.S.” (He has since mentioned Israel in the context of his targets’ alleged hatred for it eight more times.)

The claim that Israel feels abandoned is, of course, nonsense; the people of Israel haven’t the faintest idea who Ilhan Omar is. But roping Israel into his rant wasn’t random; it was Trump’s intended endgame from the get-go, and just the latest reminder for Jews that our concerns — and our existence — have been reduced to a rhetorical tool in a larger political battle.

Trump, who has a knack for ferreting out other people’s vulnerabilities and pressing on them, spotted what must have looked like an unmissable opportunity in House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s recent feud with the four congresswomen, known as “the Squad.” And he kept at it: First, he tried to enlist Pelosi in the ugly suggestion that the four congresswomen “go back”: “I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!” Then, when Democrats (including Pelosi herself) predictably rallied behind Trump’s targets, he made that part of his attack: “So sad to see the Democrats sticking up for people who speak so badly of our Country.”

more...

[hlthe2b]

14. I criticize women leaders who will not speak out on women's issues all the time; ditto younger women

who complain that they aren't 'jack-booted feminists' and fail to join the fight on choice, equal pay and related issues--all the while they take advantage of the gains those of use who fought have achieved. If a feminist-supportive male criticized on the same issue, I'd agree with him as well.

Ditto, I criticize those liberal Christians and their leadership who fail to take on the hypocrisy of the "religious RW fundamentalists" and allow the RW to appropriate "Christianity" for their own means.

Ditto, I criticize fellow progressives who complain about everything the Democratic party has done the past several decades, though they do not lift a finger to become active nor to move from their apathy.

So, yes, I follow my own lead and there is no rank hypocrisy in what I am saying.

[Behind the Aegis]

17. I didn't say anything about hypocrisy, rank or otherwise, on your part.

The point I was making is having someone who is NOT a part of the affected group dictating how something should be done by the group. It is the epitome of 'splaining.

[hlthe2b]

18. It is an observation. One I have every right to make. And like the examples I gave that do not

include you, they are everyday occurrences that impact our ability to fight harmful forces in our society.

[Behind the Aegis]

19. And I am telling you your "observation" is lacking.

There are any number of Jews who are speaking out and have been for decades about the conflation. What is not helpful, and downright insulting, is telling Jews how we should act.

[hlthe2b]

20. Please show me where I said ALL? Please DO show me?

You seem desperate to be insulted. I did not do so, nor did I have any intention nor desire to do so, but if that is what you need to 'feel', then so be it. I am able to examine issues within my own "groups" that are subject to criticism, you seemingly don't feel that translates to those areas that touch you. Ok.

[Behind the Aegis]

21. Please show me where I said YOU said "all"? PLEASE...show me!

You seem intent on telling me how I should or shouldn't feel as a Jew who has just been told we should be doing something we are already doing.

[hlthe2b]

22. Once again implying I was all inclusive in my comments--which would imply "ALL"

I find those who take offense at anything and everything are not amenable to discussion, so feel free to have the last word. Have a nice afternoon, but I'm ending this here.

[Behind the Aegis]

23. So, I DID NOT say "all", you inferred it!

[elleng]

3. I'm a similarly thinking New Yawka!!!

(Happy in ex-urban southern MD at the moment!)

[lsewpershad]

4. Maybe he'll

Be labled anti-Semitic.

[maxsolomon]

7. Most American Jews are liberal Democrats. My relatives are.

But opposition to Likud's apartheid policies is now equivalent to Anti-Semitism.

How long till the AIPAC conference? March 1-3, 2020. Trump will pull out every stop in that speech. So will the Dem nominee if she knows what's good for her.

Don't cross AIPAC!

[panader0]

9. Kinky Freidman and the Texas Jewboys: Asshole from El Paso

Kinky is cool.

[stopdiggin]

27. Ha -- I immediately thought of Kinky too (nt)

[Wounded Bear]

12. Well, if you could help flip Texas blue, I'm all for it...

On a more serious note, the RW ability to control this agenda is amazing. Their need for unfettered backing of Israeli state policy being tied to anti-semitism needs to end.

[stopdiggin]

25. unfettered backing of Israeli state policy

well this has been around for so long that ... I'm not even sure the political establishment knows HOW to move the goal posts. Just a thought here .. Trump might have actually done this whole topic of conflation a favor, by tying his piggish and habitually belligerent behavior in with the issue. In deliberately alienating the rest of the world (Jerusalem embassy, Iran nukes, Kushner peace plan) without any policy or diplomatic objective at all, he has made this country's long standing unquestioned support .. a subject that is much more open to question? Perhaps?

[ProudLib72]

31. That would be the only reason for me to go back

It's too damned hot and humid down there! No mountains either.

There's a second part to my post. I left when I was nine. Didn't rep Omar leave Somalia when she was ten? The point is that neither she nor I had much say in where we were born or grew up.

[hedda_foil]

24. Me too -- Illinois!!

[Gothmog]

26. I am a Jew who is also not happy with Bibi

I am already in Texas

[ProudLib72]

32. How do I give you power of attorney to cast my vote against Cruz in absentia?

Also, wasn't it several months ago that Bibi was found guilty of corruption? I recall thinking that he was on his way to prison, but it never happened.

[Jake Stern]

28. Oy gevalt!

My family is from what is now Slovakia but then was part of Austria-Hungary, then Czechoslovakia, then Hungary again, then Czechoslovakia again.

Where do I go back to?

On edit: Totally with you on Israeli policies

[ripcord]

30. Some Israeli positions I support, some I don't

I've pissed a number of people off by stating Israel should never turn the Gohlan over to Syria, my reasons are simple. Three times Syria has attacked Israel and every time those attacks have begun with shelling fronm the Heights, since Israel has held that territory there have been no attacks by Syria, it is simply a common sense defensive move.