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Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:57 PM

Sh*thole Country


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Reply Sh*thole Country (Original post)
SHRED Jul 17 OP
dalton99a Jul 17 #1
DENVERPOPS Jul 17 #10
panader0 Jul 17 #28
DENVERPOPS Jul 17 #29
CatMor Jul 17 #2
democratisphere Jul 17 #3
Different Drummer Jul 17 #18
CaptYossarian Jul 17 #27
Sneederbunk Jul 17 #4
CCExile Jul 17 #5
DemocracyMouse Jul 17 #7
murielm99 Jul 17 #12
paulkienitz Jul 17 #6
maxsolomon Jul 17 #11
demigoddess Jul 17 #14
Kind of Blue Jul 17 #15
geardaddy Jul 17 #22
Kind of Blue Jul 17 #24
Blue_playwright Jul 18 #33
Kind of Blue Jul 18 #35
paulkienitz Jul 17 #23
maxsolomon Jul 17 #25
Post removed Jul 17 #17
Kind of Blue Jul 17 #19
DFW Jul 17 #8
Aussie105 Jul 17 #31
tclambert Jul 17 #9
denbot Jul 17 #13
iluvtennis Jul 17 #16
Pepsidog Jul 17 #20
zentrum Jul 17 #21
Kind of Blue Jul 17 #26
US4u2 Jul 18 #32
Kind of Blue Jul 18 #36
Aussie105 Jul 17 #30
packman Jul 18 #34
Maru Kitteh Jul 18 #37
malaise Jul 18 #38

Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 12:59 PM

1. Perfect.



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:29 PM

10. It's too bad

It's too f'ing bad the native americans didn't have their own Dept of Homeland Security, border patrol, and ICE group.

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 08:56 PM

28. This:

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Response to panader0 (Reply #28)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 09:45 PM

29. Good one

Everyone should post this on every right wing web site that we all can find.........

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:00 PM

2. Love it ... great

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:02 PM

3. Too bad they didn't listen to the Native American.

The drumpfs would be trying to take over Germany instead of America.

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:42 PM

18. This.

DD

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 08:49 PM

27. For some relief, you should watch Hogan's Heroes.

Back then, we fought the Nazis. We didn't elect them to the presidency.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:04 PM

4. Right now I am more concerned with our shithole presidency.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:52 PM

5. Funny (not ha-ha funny) that so many of these countries are the way they are because of us.

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Response to CCExile (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:59 PM

7. You are correct. And Americans are not conscious of this, even the "educated"

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Response to CCExile (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:56 PM

12. You are right.

Confessions of an Economic Hitman.

And look at the way we aided right wing coups in South America.

They are lawless in many places because of us.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 01:59 PM

6. England at that time was a rather literal shithole.

One of the excellent reasons to emigrate to the colonies was the fact that cities like London were overrun with diseases, many of which were spread by poor sanitation and lack of sewers.

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Response to paulkienitz (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:35 PM

11. That's not why they came.

they came because their religious fanaticism was unappreciated by the Church of England.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #11)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:09 PM

14. yes, religion was more important than anything. Too bad we

haven't progressed much more on that issue. Some voters still vote their religion.

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Response to demigoddess (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:28 PM

15. Also, "Britain had been shipping convicts to America for decades before

they started sending them to Australia. In fact, it was precisely because of America’s fight for independence that the Brits had to start sending their criminals to Australia. But from 1718 until 1775, convict transportation to the American colonies flourished. Some estimates claim that almost 10 percent of migrants to America during this time were British convicts.

In fact, experts estimate that over 52,000 British prisoners were shipped off to colonial America.

Many Australians have more or less embraced their convict history. But if you’re an American who had no idea that your country’s founding included a huge prison population, you’re not alone. Historically, Americans have not been too keen on discussing the fact that convicts came to what would eventually become known as the United States.


https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/britain-sent-thousands-of-its-convicts-to-america-not-1707458418



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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:14 PM

22. Wasn't a good portion of the colony of Georgia a penal colony?

I think I learned that in AP US History in high school.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Province_of_Georgia

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Response to geardaddy (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:30 PM

24. I guess so. But what I understood was Georgia was intended as a penal colony

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because of the overwhelming number of poor people in England. I'd been corrected by Georgians before that the idea was over ruled early on and the first colonists were regular poor working class people. But then eventually debtors and convicts were sent to Georgia.

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 08:41 AM

33. My ancestor was kicked out of England

Apparently, he beat the crap out of nobleman and was given the option of jail or America.

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Response to Blue_playwright (Reply #33)

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:41 PM

35. Wow! Proves the jail alternative must have been a living hell.

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Reminds me of a graphic novel I came across a few years ago whose author is African-American and Swedish-American. His Swedish descent mom knew nothing of her family history. The author, Eric Basir, found out about a game show inviting American Swedes to come and play and they'd research their genealogy and take them to their ancestors' estates, homes or hovels.

Just saying that a lot of this particular group's ancestry is tragic. One emigrated for ruining his family's name by stealing a bag of nails, tenet farmers sending 5 year olds away by themselves hoping for adoption in the Swedish-American community, another left his starving family so as not to be burden them.

So many left because of unimaginable brutally devastating conditions. My late MIL's ancestry were Spanish conversos who left because of the Inquisition.

I couldn't help laughing though reading your ancestor beat the crap out of a nobleman

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #11)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:18 PM

23. only a smallish portion of the people who settled the colonies went for religious reasons.

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Response to paulkienitz (Reply #23)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 04:57 PM

25. the Puritans in the meme did.

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Response to paulkienitz (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:44 PM

19. Yes, definitely one of the reasons.

Besides religion this article covers: "Social, political, and economic inequality due to feudalism; Fragile food supply and famine; Poor health and the spread of infectious diseases; Uncertain economy; Overpopulation; Dangerous standards of living in urban and rural areas; Child victimization; Intolerance; Warfare; An idealistic image of the New World.

Our story begins in 15th and early 16th century Europe - with an undertanding of the English who eventually decide to immigrate to the New World."


http://gorhistory.com/hist110/expl.html

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:01 PM

8. Probably the impression of the Native Americans who saw the first pilgrims

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Response to DFW (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 10:42 PM

31. Beat me to it!

But honestly, mass migrations have been part of human history for a long time - escaping religious persecution, wars, economic factors, etc.

It's how humanity spread across the globe.

But pilgrim fathers = good, brown people from the South = bad?

The whole paperwork thing is just a recent thing, and an excuse to lock people out.

Is it 'No Room for you!' or 'You are not White, go away!' ??

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 02:21 PM

9. Now that's a Thanksgiving day to celebrate.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:04 PM

13. Rec X ♾

K&R

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:31 PM

16. Right on! nt

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:46 PM

20. Brilliant!!

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 03:58 PM

21. A disaster to the globe

No climate change if indigenous people had prevailed.

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 06:11 PM

26. But instead the Great Black Elk said after visiting New York in 1886

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Response to Kind of Blue (Reply #26)

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 07:09 AM

32. Excellent!!!

... and little has changed since.

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Response to US4u2 (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:44 PM

36. Welcome to DU, US4u2!

Unfortunately, not much just under different guises and now with invigorated state-sanctions policies.

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Thu Jul 18, 2019, 10:45 AM

34. From my posting several days back

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:52 PM

37. had to kick this

so very perfect

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Response to SHRED (Original post)

Thu Jul 18, 2019, 01:56 PM

38. K & R

for truth

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