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Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

Magnificent rant from David Rothkopf says it all.


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It's being a traitor. But it's not just being a traitor. It's the obstruction of justice but its not just the obstruction of justice. It's the attacks on rule of law. But it's not just the attacks on the rule of law. It's the assault on freedom of the press.

But it's not just the assault on freedom of the press. It's the pathological lying. But it's not just the pathological lying. It's the unfitness for office. But it's not just the unfitness for office. It's the incompetence. But it's not just the incompetence.

It's the attacks on our most important allies and alliances. But it's not just the attacks on most important allies and alliances. It's the systematic destruction of our environment. But it's not just the systematic destruction of our environment.

It's the violation of international treaties and agreements. But it is not just the violation of international treaties and agreements. It's the embrace of our enemies. But it is not just the embrace of our enemies.

It's the defense of murdering dictators but it is not just the defense of murdering dictators. It is the serial undermining of our national security. But it is not just the serial undermining of our national security. It is the nepotism. But it's not just the nepotism.

It's the attacks on our federal law enforcement and intelligence communities. But it is not just the attacks on our federal law enforcement and intelligence communities. It's the fiscal recklessness. But it's not just the fiscal recklessness.

It's the degradation of the office and of public discourse in America. But it's not just the degradation of the office and of public discourse in America. It's the support of Nazis and white supremacists. But it's not just the support of Nazis and white supremacists.


It's the dead in Puerto Rico and the at the border. But it's not just the dead in Puerto Rico and at the border. It's turning the US government into a criminal conspiracy to empower and enrich the president and his supporters.

But it's not just the turning the US government into a criminal conspiracy to empower and enrich the president and his supporters. It's weaponization of politics in America to attack the weak. But it's not just the weaponization of American politics to attack the weak.


It's all these things together and the threat of worse to come. It is the damage that can not be undone. It is pathology that has overtaken our politics and our society, the revelation that 40 percent of the population and an entire political party are profoundly immoral.

It is a disease that has infected our system and is killing it. At the moment, we still have the wherewithal to fight back. But even those who recognize the dangers of this litany of crimes are proving too complacent, too inert in the face of this threat.


It is one of those moments in the history of a country when there is a choice to be made, a choice between having a future and not, between growth and decay, between democracy and oligarchy, between what we dreamt of being and what even our founders feared we might become.


The litany of crises and crimes is so long that we are becoming numb. You have heard of the fog of war. This is the fog of Trump. The volume of wrongs becomes its own defense. Is the president accused of being a rapist? Well, then remind them he is a racist and they'll forget.


This is a moment for leaders to step up. To challenge each of these abuses via every legal means available. To organize and draw attention to them. To blow the whistle if you are in government and you are being asked to violate your oath. To resist and refuse to be complicit.


If you can't do those things that make your voice heard and join a movement, support a political candidate, donate money, register voters, fight voter suppression. But whatever you do, resist becoming numb. Resist the temptation to let the recitation of old crimes and new...


...become a deadening drone. Every one matters in times like these. Every one must stand up for what is right. In their homes. In their schools. In the workplace. In their churches and synagogues and mosques.

We are approaching a great national decision about whether the American experiment will succeed or fail, whether this moment does what two world wars, a civil war and countless past misjudgments and missteps could not.

We will make it together, resist, offer a better alternative, embrace that alternative and the best leaders we can find...or succumb, let the inertia of some among us mark the end of what for two and half centuries was an idea so compelling it inspired the world.

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Grasswire2 Jul 2019 OP
uponit7771 Jul 2019 #1
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #2
dalton99a Jul 2019 #3
elleng Jul 2019 #4
Guilded Lilly Jul 2019 #5
Kid Berwyn Jul 2019 #6
Martin Eden Jul 2019 #7
Grasswire2 Jul 2019 #10
Pachamama Jul 2019 #13
Moostache Jul 2019 #25
trev Jul 2019 #30
Martin Eden Jul 2019 #15
calimary Jul 16 #58
Martin Eden Jul 16 #63
onecaliberal Jul 2019 #8
Mme. Defarge Jul 2019 #9
tblue37 Jul 2019 #11
Pachamama Jul 2019 #12
Different Drummer Jul 2019 #14
Tom Rinaldo Jul 2019 #16
LittleGirl Jul 2019 #21
EveHammond13 Jul 2019 #17
democrank Jul 2019 #18
Leith Jul 2019 #19
Duppers Jul 2019 #28
Pepsidog Jul 2019 #20
PatrickforO Jul 2019 #22
LittleGirl Jul 2019 #23
BlueMississippi Jul 2019 #24
Faux pas Jul 2019 #26
Duppers Jul 2019 #27
renate Jul 2019 #29
smirkymonkey Jul 16 #54
zentrum Jul 2019 #31
robbob Jul 16 #55
zentrum Jul 17 #64
LEW Jul 2019 #32
KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #33
Celerity Jul 2019 #34
KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2019 #38
Celerity Jul 2019 #40
Locrian Jul 16 #60
Locrian Jul 16 #59
kimbutgar Jul 2019 #35
softydog88 Jul 2019 #36
SunSeeker Jul 2019 #37
Moral Compass Jul 2019 #39
Perseus Jul 2019 #41
ProfessionalLeft Jul 2019 #44
mnhtnbb Jul 16 #50
sellitman Jul 2019 #42
Hekate Jul 2019 #43
DDySiegs Jul 2019 #45
cwydro Jul 2019 #46
cp Jul 2019 #47
Heartstrings Jul 2019 #48
Mersky Jul 16 #49
rampartc Jul 16 #51
malaise Jul 16 #52
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 16 #53
llmart Jul 16 #56
Paladin Jul 16 #57
TommyCelt Jul 16 #61
Hortensis Jul 16 #62

Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

1. THIS !!!!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

2. took my breath away when I read it. nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

3. Kick.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

4. Thanks.

Shared to my fb, tired of being so 'polite.'

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

5. K&R K&R K&R!!!!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:02 PM

6. I'm not giving up.

My forebearers didnít in 1775.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:09 PM

7. "between what we dreamt of being and what even our founders feared we might become"

Ö one of many SPOT-ON phrases.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:54 PM

10. sort of like "these are the times that try men's souls" , eh.

A classic.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:03 PM

13. Thomas Paine is rolling in his grave

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:41 PM

25. He is not alone in that...

There are a LOT of people turning over in their graves these days.

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #13)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:16 PM

30. Ironically, Paine was later found guilty of treason.

Apparently his radical ideas about freedom were ok for the Revolution, but not for the subsequent new government.

Paine is a hero of mine.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #10)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:16 PM

15. Yes, and it also calls to mind Ben Franklin's remark that ...

... we have a republic, if we can keep it.

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Response to Martin Eden (Reply #15)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 11:51 AM

58. IF we can keep it.

Thatís a pretty doggone big ďIFĒ.

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Response to calimary (Reply #58)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 01:21 PM

63. Rare have we come this close to losing it.

The Civil War and McCarthyism come to mind.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:25 PM

8. Must keep fighting.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 01:53 PM

9. C'est vraiment magnifique!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:01 PM

11. K&R for visibility. nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:02 PM

12. We must all fight becoming numb and resist...

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:05 PM

14. Looks like he covered all the bases. n/t

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:20 PM

16. This is the peice I never could figure out to write. But he did

and I am grateful that he did. It is so hard to capture the full magnitude of what we are going through. But he did.

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #16)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:35 PM

21. Thought exactly the same

I read it easily because of how easily it is described.
Every single thing.
Black and white.

That right there.

Thank you to whoever wrote it.
Bookmarked

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:23 PM

17. Amen

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:25 PM

18. Kick a million times, KICK!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:28 PM

19. Adding a couple more

It's the vulgarity. But it's not just the vulgarity. It's the vicious attacks on the powerless. But it's not just the vicious attacks on the powerless.

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Response to Leith (Reply #19)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:56 PM

28. More great ones! 👍

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:34 PM

20. It's a never ending circle of corruption. It never ends

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:36 PM

22. Amazing post.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:37 PM

23. I can't let the outrage fatigue

Win today.
Or tomorrow
Because you know tomorrow will be just as bad or worst.

Thanks for sharing.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:40 PM

24. wow .. so beautifully written

It certainly inspired me

Trump wants us to see things piecemeal so he and his thugs can write it off as "fake news" but the sum total is far far worse than the individual parts.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:47 PM

26. Kickin' with admiration!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:50 PM

27. 🔥 Brilliant Post, it brings the fire.

I'm sending this out. Many thanks, Grasswire. 🙏




Madam Speaker should hear what we're thinking and feeling. She's wrong.

One person had more brilliance to add in that Twitter thread:

Itís the treason. Itís stealing the election. Itís both of those before anything else.


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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 02:57 PM

29. "The fog of Trump"

This whole thing is so excellent. Thank you for sharing it.

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Response to renate (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 06:32 AM

54. That is a perfect description.

Thatís exactly what it feels like.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:34 PM

31. The Fog of Trump

I wonder if the German people felt a Fog of Hitler like this one?

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Response to zentrum (Reply #31)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 07:34 AM

55. I believe that's a yes...

Iíve seen the quote here, from Hitler himself or maybe his propaganda minister, something about keeping the people stirred up and angry on a daily basis? Itís described tRumps m.o. to a ďTĒ...

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Response to robbob (Reply #55)

Wed Jul 17, 2019, 09:55 AM

64. I think Goebbels

....recommended creating a sense ogf chaos.

Always saw Bannon as T'S Goebbels but it seems Stephen Miller is up to the task as well.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:36 PM

32. truly magnificent post

Everyone send this far and wide....it seems the only thing we can do right now....

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:39 PM

33. Rothkopf neglected to mention the elephant in our room that allowed those things to happen.

That is, the slow but exponentially worsening inequality of income and asset distribution worldwide that allows the wealthiest and most psychopathic individuals to:

* buy control of entire local, state and national governments,
* buy control of a large percentage of news and social media around the globe, and
* buy or control ownership of vast amounts of our planet's land and other fixed assets, and natural resources.

If they did not own or control those things, the items in David's list would never have happened, including the election of tRump.

He's listed effects, not causes. I do credit him for recognizing the fundamental cause in some of his publications.

Further, he fails to mention that this exponentially worsening inequality is happening coincidentally with a second elephant in our room: global climate change.

His writings have exposure to some global elite. Let's see what he does in the future to help correct this extremely serious issue.

KY rant done.....

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #33)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:46 PM

34. +10000

Wealth inequality is the number one interlocking meta-statistic that determines the overall societal well-being of a nation-state.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:35 PM

38. Thank you. Bookmarking for viewing later tonight.

I feel it's the rate at which inequality is worsening is the most disturbing aspect of this issue. Just how far can it go?

I invite you to watch this one when you can spare an hour or so, particularly if you enjoy history. This story frightens the little bit of cynic in me as we observe the parallels with fragile global economic structures we rely on today:



KY.........

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #38)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:42 PM

40. oh, I m huge history buff, and the Bronze age collapse is one of the most seminal events in the last

12,000 years of human events.

Thanks so much for the vid!

Btw, the single most important event IMHO that shaped the entire course of history for the modern world occurred at dawn, December 11, 1241 CE, when ÷gedei Khan died after a night of insane drinking due to the cumulative effects of alcoholism. If he had not died, and had live another 10 years or so, the Mondols would have (they were on the absolute verge of it) completely conquered all of Europe, and given a few breaks (especially if they went on to have a series of pre-planned orderly Great Khan successions) they probably would have succeed in what was always their goal, that being literally conquering the entire world.

÷gedei Khan's death was like the brain of a giant global robot (stole that from Dan Carlin, lol) shutting down, necessitating the withdrawal of Mongol leaders (and troops) from the outskirts of Vienna and Venice to return for a Kurultai (the grand meeting of Mongol warlords to choose a new Great Khan) in Karakorum (the Mongol capital.)

Imagine if the Mongols had conquered all of Europe and then finished off the rest of Asia and Africa, culminating with going on to North, Central, and South America. They certainly had the structural wherewithal (IF they continued the model set up by Genghis and ÷gedei) to maintain control. to manage and maintain it all, again with the major proviso of orderly succession.


I mentioned Dan Carlin, the biggest history podcaster in the world

here are his podcasts on the Bronze Age Collapse and also the Mongol Empire

Hardcore History 9 Ė Darkness Buries the Bronze Age

https://tvoxy.net/song/76434725/Dan_Carlin_-_Darkness_Buries_the_Bronze_Age/ (listen free)

https://www.dancarlin.com/product/hardcore-history-9-darkness-buries-the-bronze-age/




Hardcore History 43-47 Ė Wrath of the Khans Series

https://player.fm/series/wrath-of-the-khans-series-dan-carlins-hardcore-history-2420352 (listen free here)

https://www.dancarlin.com/product-category/hardcore-history/classic-hardcore-history/







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Response to Celerity (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 12:41 PM

60. thanks will watch later - n/t

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #33)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

59. super important post

THIS is the root cause
While everyone is looking in horror at the symptoms and the hideous cancers growing - this is why we are in the situation that we are.

The zero sum game is in the end terribly inefficient except at what it was designed to do: concentrate wealth. As a survival / long term sustainability strategy if we don't change it, it's game over for our species.

Climate change is not going to care if your GDP is gangbusters.... that you're making money in war, prisons, etc. It'll still wind up wiping us out.




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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:51 PM

35. Yes yes and yes

Evert norm, decorum, rule of law is at danger of being decimated and itís easy to become complacent and give up.

But I plan to keep on fighting the cretin in the White House and his minions who are trying to destroy our democracy and country. F Repukes and Russia.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 03:56 PM

36. This...

...the revelation that 40 percent of the population and an entire political party are profoundly immoral.

This includes many of the most zealously religious people in this country, a fact which is so far beyond logic it makes me wonder if I'm not part of some sick cosmic joke.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 04:28 PM

37. K & R & Retweeted!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 05:30 PM

39. Highly recommended

I think we are nearing a point where we must call for a general strike. Corporations are where we make the money that feeds and houses us.

So many of us, myself included, have to keep going to work and keep living. As if this is somehow normal and there will come a time when this will all go away. The corporations, large and small, are inherently amoral. As long as sales and profits keep rolling in they will also keep on as if normalcy will return.

But it wonít. The Republicans have realized that all that is required to remain in power is to refuse to participate in our Republic. They violate the rules while the judiciary changes the rules. Bribery has been made legal.Gerrymandering is now not even addressable in the legal system.



This is how all democracies have died.

So, we, as a people have to break the only system that matters to those holding the power. The only thing that will get their attention is to threaten the wealth that they hold dear. Boycotts and general strikes.


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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 06:39 PM

41. Maybe I am the only one, but I believe these paragraphs are meant for Pelosi

It is one of those moments in the history of a country when there is a choice to be made, a choice between having a future and not, between growth and decay, between democracy and oligarchy, between what we dreamed of being and what even our founders feared we might become.


The litany of crises and crimes is so long that we are becoming numb. You have heard of the fog of war. This is the fog of Trump. The volume of wrongs becomes its own defense. Is the president accused of being a rapist? Well, then remind them he is a racist and they'll forget.


This is a moment for leaders to step up. To challenge each of these abuses via every legal means available. To organize and draw attention to them. To blow the whistle if you are in government and you are being asked to violate your oath. To resist and refuse to be complicit.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #41)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:24 PM

44. I agree with your assessment

 

And I'm not singling out Pelosi. But it's past time to DO something. As great as the OP is, the time for words alone has passed. It's time to DO something. And that something is begin impeachment proceedings.

And the Speaker is in the best position to make that happen. Or block it from happening.

I am nobody. Just an American citizen and a Democratic voter. But, I call on Speaker Pelosi to commence impeachment proceedings. Beginning Monday, July 22nd. With no summer recess in August. Make Mueller's testimony part of those proceedings.

Enough talk. It's past time to DO something. SFB Donnie's racist tirade was the last straw.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #41)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 05:46 AM

50. I agree

I don't know what it will take to move her to open an impeachment inquiry. I suspect if she signaled her intent, all of a sudden the Dems in the House who haven't already committed, would fall in line. I think many of them are waiting for her.

It's time for the Speaker to step up and lead.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:00 PM

42. So inspiring!!

Wow, just wow.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 07:32 PM

43. KICK

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:43 PM

45. Magnificent!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 08:45 PM

46. So spot on!

And still he sits there. In our house. Nary a worry.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 10:23 PM

47. Poetic

with a kick of fiery patriotism.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Mon Jul 15, 2019, 11:54 PM

48. Bookmarking.....nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 01:26 AM

49. Bookmarked and journaled, nt

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 05:50 AM

51. why we fight!

I cross posted this tweet to several other forums.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 05:50 AM

52. Most excellent

Rec

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 09:51 AM

56. One of the most inspiring things I've read in a long time.

So inspiring that I've printed it out and posted it next to my desk. I have to keep reminding myself not to fall into that "Fog of Trump" because sometimes I can feel it coming on.

We all have to do whatever we can, as little as it may seem at the time, we still have to do it. There is strength in numbers and I truly want to believe that there are many, many more of us then there are of them. It's not just Trump. We have to burn the GOP down to the ground and start over.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 10:59 AM

57. Very well put. (nt)

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 12:44 PM

61. "But whatever you do, resist becoming numb."

This. This is the hardest part of all.

Becoming punch-drunk from this trump's daily measure of fuckery is something against which I have to actively fight. But I must. We must.

Our America is on the line.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Original post)

Tue Jul 16, 2019, 12:48 PM

62. Great post. Thanks for bringing it, Grasswire.

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