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Sat Jul 13, 2019, 04:31 PM

U.S. Citizens are also detained at Trump "concentration camps."

ICE Is Dangerously Inaccurate
Even American citizens are not immune from immigration raids.
By Darlena Cunha
July 12, 2019

Ms. Nuetzi is a cheerful white woman who spent her childhood in Ocala, Fla., and has been an elementary school secretary in Gainesville for 20 years. In 2016, she voted for Donald Trump, and was ecstatic when he won. A year later, her driver’s license expired.

Ms. Nuetzi went to the motor vehicles agency to get a new one, and for the first time in her life, officials did not accept her birth certificate...

“I called to get a new passport, and they told me to go to immigration,” Ms. Nuetzi said. “But why would I go to immigration? I’m not an immigrant. Then I called Homeland Security and the woman on the other end of the line started laughing at me.”

It proved nearly impossible for Ms. Nuetzi to extract herself from the ICE machine.

Davino Watson is a U.S. citizen who was 23 years old when ICE held him for more than three years. A New Yorker, he was eventually dropped off in Alabama with no explanation and no money. After he was released, Mr. Watson filed a complaint and a court awarded him compensation in 2016. The next year, an appeals court decided the statute of limitations for that complaint had expired while he was still in ICE custody.

more true stories by the New York Times:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/12/opinion/ice-raids.html

According to CBS News:

Who will be targeted in the expected ICE roundups of immigrant families?
BY CAMILO MONTOYA-GALVEZ
JULY 13, 2019 / 9:07 AM / CBS NEWS

Will families be separated because of this operation? (ie ICE raids on Sunday 7/14/19)
Deportations can lead to family separations, as they have in the past. Roundups would not only affect undocumented immigrants with pending removal orders, but also so-called "mixed-status" families with members who are green card holders and U.S. citizens — mostly U.S.-born children.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ice-raids-who-will-be-targeted-expected-roundups-of-immigrant-families-2019-07-13/

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Reply U.S. Citizens are also detained at Trump "concentration camps." (Original post)
real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 OP
Doreen Jul 2019 #1
Stonepounder Jul 2019 #2
Doreen Jul 2019 #3
real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #15
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 2019 #18
LiberalArkie Jul 2019 #9
OnDoutside Jul 2019 #16
uptrumps_but Jul 2019 #11
Doreen Jul 2019 #12
Lonestarblue Jul 2019 #14
anarch Jul 2019 #17
Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #4
dchill Jul 2019 #5
Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2019 #7
dchill Jul 2019 #8
real Cannabis calm Jul 2019 #13
Rowdyag Jul 2019 #6
Captain Zero Jul 2019 #10
Jeffersons Ghost Jul 2019 #19

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:10 PM

1. So, first comment is that

at some point if this administration stays in we will ALL be REQUIRED to carry our birth certificate at all Times.

Second comment, at some point they will not just target colored people. There are white people from countries that he hates now ( Germany and Canada ) and would like nothing better than get rid of them also.

I have a friend who's parents are from Germany and only his mother got nationalized while his father remained a German citizen. If our administration decided to twist things the way they have been they could claim my friend and his brother are anchor babies and do the same to them as to those already in the camps.

Some may think I am going to far in my thinking about this but there are many things we thought would never happen but they are happening now. I am afraid for ALL people of this country who are citizens but from another country or parents in the same situation as his parents.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:42 PM

2. Papers please!

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Response to Stonepounder (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 05:58 PM

3. Kind of like proving your dogs are purebred

and from good lineage. Just sick for humans to have to do that.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #3)

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 05:56 AM

15. It's more like Hitler's rise to power, only Trump-Nazis are demonizing Hispanics...

Hitler targeted Jews, Gypsies and some other foreigners.

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Response to Stonepounder (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 06:29 AM

18. citizenship AND party affiliation required

If you're not the right kind of people, off to the camps!

#NeverAgainIsNow

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Response to Doreen (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:27 PM

9. Birth certificate may not be the person who is claiming it.

At some time people will be required to carry the "Real ID" license or a passport with them at all times.

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Response to LiberalArkie (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 05:59 AM

16. Or a DNA licence ?

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Response to Doreen (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:39 PM

11. lets see trumps birth certificate... oh...

 

maybe that is like his tax returns... hiding something

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Response to uptrumps_but (Reply #11)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:42 PM

12. If he had to show his birth certificate

it would prove he was born in hell and the devil is his daddy and he just took over the family business.

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Response to Doreen (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:23 PM

14. Will we all have patches on our clothes to identify us?

Star of David, Muslim patch, Hispanic, Indian, Christian but not evangelical, black or brown immigrants, black or brown born here. Chinese, Korean, Vietnamese, etc. Only white evangelicals will not have to wear identifiers because they think of themselves as God’s chosen people who have the innate right to tell everyone else how to live. Identifying patches will make it so much easier for Trump’s gestapo to round up the undesirables and dump them in another country. Who cares if they’re US citizens!

This administration makes me so angry!

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Response to Doreen (Reply #1)

Sun Jul 14, 2019, 06:12 AM

17. it is practically already like that in areas where ICE is targeting families

Waiting outside the schools & job sites.

I am fairly obviously white-looking, but have it in the back of my mind that I could be stopped anyway, for no reason, and with no recourse (being "close enough" to the CBP "you have no 4th amendment rights" zone, and living in a mostly-Latinx neighborhood).

The irony of these formerly proud "no step on snek!," individual-rights-are-everything types being all gung-ho about a federal police force that can basically raid neighborhoods and search houses with no oversight, and with broad authority to just haul in whoever they want...well, it's some pretty heavy irony.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:11 PM

4. And yet, that woman, Ms. Nuetzi, said she WILL vote for trump in 2020.

WHAT is it that these people DO NOT get ?

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:15 PM

5. They don't get that they're wrong.

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Response to dchill (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:19 PM

7. Read the O P, this woman IS an American citizen, as were her parents.

This woman had her citizenship questioned, her life held in the balance by ICE, threatened with deportation, harassed by the feds, had to fight to have Immigration review her case that realized they had screwed up, and after all of that, all of the nightmares, all of the pain and uncertainty, she STILL wants to vote for this skid mark again.

If it weren't for trump, she would never have gone through ANY of this.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:23 PM

8. I read the OP. I was merely answering your question.

They don't, and won't, get that they're wrong.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #4)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 07:16 PM

13. My experience in studying those suffering from Trump-nazism...

Conversations with them indicate they tend to be racists and climate-change deniers, who believe that creeping socialism and liberal media are conspiring to destroy America. Those suffering from Trump-nazism, believe only Fox News, which remains entangled in controversy, because to dodge a large lawsuit, Faux News proved in court that they were an entertainment media, instead of a news reporting organization.

Many suffering from Trump-nazism also claim to be Christian, although they obtain most of their religious instruction from television evangelists or preachers, with a political agenda.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:16 PM

6. The very last paragraph 😮🤭

OMG. Some people deserve what they get.

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Response to Rowdyag (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 13, 2019, 06:28 PM

10. His brand of sado-populism...

Draws out the masochism in his supporters. Hit me again! They love it.

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