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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPlease help me try to understand this "conservative" comment on race
So there is a black man who is a friend of mine on another board. I do have to say that he is over the top, but let's forget about that for a moment. It is just background. He goes after "conservatives" for their racism and I don't think I need to explain that too much. I accept him for what he is. That has nothing to do with race. Again, it's just background.
The "conservatives" all like to claim that he is a "black racist" and clearly this man represents something important to them. They have him pegged as some kind of a stereotype. Their rhetoric ranges from mildly ugly to utterly disgusting but the "conservatives" feel they have the high ground because invariably they claim this man is prejudiced against them. I don't totally understand that, but then they're "conservatives" and, well, let's move on.
What's prompting this is a comment from one of "conservatives" (who actually manages to display some decency at times but is still a hater) directed at my friend:
" (name deleted) you are the one constantly bitching about the past ie all the injustices done to Blacks...for the past three hundred years."
I find this odd. Is this poster actually suggesting that there is something wrong with a black man complaining about injustices to black people? I did ask this poster to explain this but being that these "conservatives" are incredibly non-self-actualized I don't expect a coherent answer.
Do any of you have any thoughts or insights you can share on this? I actually think that "conservatives" think a "good" black man is one who doesn't complain about injustices done to black people? I mean WTF?
Race is huge issue to them. It definitely pushes some kind of button and my friend, well, he's very eager push that button. It doesn't seem to do any good though.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)about "conservatives" here.
I could be wrong, but it just sparked some kind curiosity in me.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)"American exceptionalism" and all that.
librechik
(30,659 posts)they are just poorly educated racists. And the very first defense these guilty people grasp at is that it's the "other" who is really racist. It's completely impossible, since the white race is a huge majority, there is no institutional racism against them. Yet they whine and complain about it as if they were the ones being oppressed. Affirmative action is a crime against them for example. It's totally reversed in their minds, that lets them off the hook, they feel, and it tends to end the discussion at least.
They are just following a Rushball or Beckian script. You can't reason with them since they only respect their own superstitions and Fox lies. Their attacks are oh so familiar among the lemmings and dittoheads that follow Right Wing Radio etc.
It is a hopeless task. I am afraid you are going to lose some friends. But who cares? They're just racist scumbags. Useless.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I just argue with them. Why? I really don't know but "conservatives" are not my friends. No, no. Not going to happen. I despise these people as far as their online persona. I can get along with them to some degree if we drop the politics altogether, but that's about it.
librechik
(30,659 posts)though, don't take it seriously.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I don't take it seriously. I call the force behind them "The Stupid". You know, like The Force in Star Wars, only with them it's The Stupid.
yawnmaster
(2,812 posts)to have any specific insights.
Cary
(11,746 posts)I would not recommend this board to you but if you want to fight with "conservatives" I could give you the URL in a PM. Otherwise if you have a question I will be glad to answer it. As far as briefing you all on the details, I respect you too much to subject you to it.
But if you ask I will answer.
mercuryblues
(14,464 posts)they are still bitching about a crucifixion from 3,000 + years ago, yet complaining about someone talking about issues from this past century. Talk about not "letting go" about something.
Cary
(11,746 posts)Thanks.
Although I have to tell you that the Ayn Rand contingent tend to be atheists, so...
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)So what's a thousand years, give or take?
mercuryblues
(14,464 posts)because you never heard of a typo and automatically assumed someone couldn't do basic math.
JHB
(37,122 posts)...as if racism was all in the past and has no bearing on the results for people today. That they perpetuate poor outcomes by harping on things from long ago but not getting off their duffs and working hard to be successful.
Conservatives like this view because it absolves themselves from accusations of racism and puts the blame completely on others. It takes a very narrow view of what constitutes racism (I.e., the outright open kind of the KKK), and doesn't acknowledge that less open forms have a real effect.
Effects like believing that the troubles of this country are due to an army of shiftless layabouts asking for handouts.