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Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:18 PM

I wonder if "we had the power to stop Trump" will be a comforting memory

or whether we will as a party regret not using that power when we had it.


Unused power is effectively the same as not having any power.

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Reply I wonder if "we had the power to stop Trump" will be a comforting memory (Original post)
ProfessorPlum Jul 11 OP
redstateblues Jul 11 #1
ProfessorPlum Jul 11 #2
EleanorR Jul 11 #10
Bettie Jul 11 #14
NRaleighLiberal Jul 11 #3
0rganism Jul 11 #4
NRaleighLiberal Jul 11 #5
cwydro Jul 11 #7
Turin_C3PO Jul 11 #6
world wide wally Jul 11 #8
ProfessorPlum Jul 11 #9
Turin_C3PO Jul 11 #12
OliverQ Jul 11 #11
Turin_C3PO Jul 11 #13

Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:22 PM

1. To which power are you referring?

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Response to redstateblues (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:28 PM

2. subpoena power (already evaporating), investigation power

impeachment investigation power, impeachment power...

the power to make noise about anything that matters (where are senate Democrats when we need them?),
the power to act as if children dying in U.S. concentration camps is an urgent crisis,

you know, power to do things which we aren't, as a party, doing

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:59 PM

10. Yazmin Juarez testified today about the death of her daughter

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:06 PM

14. Funny, someone just told me today

that "political reality" means that we can't get anything done because Mitch McConnell is in charge of the universe (paraphrasing here), so liberals need to stop expecting results from anything and accept that there will never be any change and we have to protect the only voices that matter, Democrats in "red" districts. (Again, paraphrasing)

Oh, and we should just sit down and shut up because we don't understand these "political realities".

So, I guess we should be grateful for the healthy supply of dry powder should there ever be an emergency like an open criminal gaining the presidency through illegal/fraudulent means and then being an open criminal and starting up concentration camps on US soil (again).

Or maybe it would be a crisis if that criminal in the white house declared blanket immunity to all investigations so he and his minions (also criminals) decided that zero laws apply to them and that there are also no rules or norms that apply to them....maybe that would warrant expenditure of some powder?

Oh, hey, the emoluments clause is in the constitution! It says the president isn't supposed to profit directly from being president. Might that be enough of a criminal act to...oh, nope?

Wonder what would be enough for them to think powder expenditure might be worth it.

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:28 PM

3. there has to be warehouse quantities of dry powder...

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:31 PM

4. it all goes to Dry Powder Mountain now

we ran out of warehouse space a long time ago

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:31 PM

5. Sad.

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:34 PM

7. Oughta be plenty dry by now.

Smh.

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:33 PM

6. As far as I can tell,

dems are doing what they can. We donít have the power to stop Trump without Republican cooperation. And that will likely never happen. We could and should impeach but that wonít stop him.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:49 PM

8. I'm not so sure about "doing what they can"....

There is more we can do than punt on first down every time.

We are not proceeding with impeachment. Not enforcing contempt of congress charges or disregard of subpoenas.... But since McConnell says fuck you to us, we tuck our tails and slither away.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 05:57 PM

9. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is seeing this

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:02 PM

12. My question is

what power of enforcement do they actually have? Congress doesnít have an enforcement wing. They can take issues to court, which they are, but until Trump defies a court order they canít do much. If he does defy a court order, such as preventing someone from testifying when a court has ordered that person to do so, we can send in US Marshalls to arrest that person. I believe that will happen but we have to go through the processes.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:00 PM

11. Are they?

Why has it taken Rep. Neal so long to get Trump's taxes? New York just approved him getting them, and afaik he still hasn't requested them. Why hasn't the House used their contempt powers and put people in jail for failing to comply with subpoenas?

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 06:04 PM

13. Before anyone can be arrested,

it has to move through the courts. Once Trump defies a court order, all bets are off and the US Marshalls can arrest.

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