Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:38 AM

grumpyduck (5,318 posts)

Did Obama attack any of his opponents when he was campaigning?

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Serious question. I don't know.

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17 replies	Author	Time	Post
Did Obama attack any of his opponents when he was campaigning? (Original post)	grumpyduck	Jul 2019	OP
Oh, I'm sure this is a very, very serious question.	demmiblue	Jul 2019	#1
He threw a few punches at HRC	BeyondGeography	Jul 2019	#2
Thank you.	grumpyduck	Jul 2019	#5
Yes he did. You can't campaign against someone without attacking your opponents.	Autumn	Jul 2019	#3
But is was based more on her Iraq war vote	Trumpocalypse	Jul 2019	#6
I wasn't thinking of Hillary. But now I remember her celestial choir slam on Obama.	Autumn	Jul 2019	#7
she was 100% right on that	dsc	Jul 2019	#14
I was a Hillary supporter in 08 she hit him hard with the truth on that. She knew and time proved	Autumn	Jul 2019	#15
"She's likeable enough" - Ouch	lame54	Jul 2019	#13
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Jul 2019	#8
Maybe	jcgoldie	Jul 2019	#4
HRC voted for the Iraq war. He didn't.	tymorial	Jul 2019	#9
He wasn't a senator	zipplewrath	Jul 2019	#11
Obama knew how	Srkdqltr	Jul 2019	#10
Yes of course.	Voltaire2	Jul 2019	#12
In stark contrast,	Dirty Socialist	Jul 2019	#16
Locking...	DonViejo	Jul 2019	#17

Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:40 AM

demmiblue (35,450 posts)

1. Oh, I'm sure this is a very, very serious question.

Not.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:41 AM

BeyondGeography (38,561 posts)

2. He threw a few punches at HRC

But that was mostly post-Iowa and by then he had been campaigning for almost a year and had built his favorable ratings up so high it didn't hurt him. Plus it was nothing compared with what came back at him from both Clintons.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:50 AM

grumpyduck (5,318 posts)

5. Thank you.

That's the type of answer I was looking for. When I said I don't know, I meant I don't know.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:45 AM

Autumn (42,597 posts)

3. Yes he did. You can't campaign against someone without attacking your opponents.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:51 AM

Trumpocalypse (6,143 posts)

6. But is was based more on her Iraq war vote

and other issues. It wasn't a character attack.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:56 AM

Autumn (42,597 posts)

7. I wasn't thinking of Hillary. But now I remember her celestial choir slam on Obama.

"The skies will open, the light will come down, celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect,”

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Response to Autumn (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:09 PM

dsc (51,668 posts)

14. she was 100% right on that

She said that in response to his repeated campaigning on the idea that Clinton's unique divisiveness was why the GOP wouldn't work with them. So what happened, on the literal night of the day of his inaguration McConnell literally conspired to refuse to work with him (a promise he kept in spades). Obama's biggest mistake was to promise that government would work once he was elected giving the GOP the power to render his promise not kept.

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Response to dsc (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:49 PM

Autumn (42,597 posts)

15. I was a Hillary supporter in 08 she hit him hard with the truth on that. She knew and time proved

her right. She above all people well knew that time of working with those people was passed. Hopefully, she tells that to Biden.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:03 PM

lame54 (33,617 posts)

13. "She's likeable enough" - Ouch

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 11:49 AM

jcgoldie (10,321 posts)

4. Maybe

But at least he wasn't a big Meanie McMeanface about it like Kamala Harris!

Or then again... maybe he's a dude and could get away with it...

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:17 PM

tymorial (3,432 posts)

9. HRC voted for the Iraq war. He didn't.

That was his primary focus of attack..

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Response to tymorial (Reply #9)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:30 PM

zipplewrath (16,564 posts)

11. He wasn't a senator

He couldn't vote for the Iraq war seeing as how he wasn't a senator at the time. But he was very public at the time about his opposition.

He spoke at an anti-war rally in Chicago on Oct. 2, 2002, the same day the resolution authorizing the use of military force in Iraq was introduced in Congress. The Senate voted on and passed that resolution on Oct. 11, 2002, by a 77-23 vote. It was signed into law by President George W. Bush five days later.

At the time of the anti-war rally, Obama was an Illinois state senator.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:23 PM

Srkdqltr (4,685 posts)

10. Obama knew how

To put his point across without being nasty.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:00 PM

Voltaire2 (10,773 posts)

12. Yes of course.

The 2008 primary was hard fought. Then at the end there was this “Party Unity My Ass” nonsense from alleged Clinton supporters, although just like in 2016, this was almost entirely fictitious nonsense promulgated by right wing trolls.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:52 PM

Dirty Socialist (3,020 posts)

16. In stark contrast,

Trump is ALWAYS campaigning and ALWAYS attacking his opponents.
Just being Master of The Obvious here...

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 02:17 PM

DonViejo (60,536 posts)

17. Locking...

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