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Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:49 PM

Question about raids on immigrants and undocumented in Churches

I am not an attorney so don't know if I am barking up the wrong tree or not:

I was reading an ICE flyer about having massive raids on undocumented folk this weekend. One of the things the flyer said was to go to churches/temples/synagouges etc and raid while folks are in worship.

I thought this was unconstitutional because of the separation of church and state issues.

I could be wrong, but to me this is really shitty, one of the few places folks go to recharge spiritually and mentally and the fucking ICE are going to desecrate that!

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Response to gopiscrap (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:26 PM

1. It's totally shitty in or out of church ... but I don't find it any 'worse', churches aren't magic

In fact actually I'd be more annoyed if the authorities couldn't nab people just cause they're at church

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:41 PM

2. Churches used to be places of asylum from secular law.

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Response to trev (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:12 AM

3. Uh-huh. I bet they did. Here in the USA, we don't have that. As it should be. IMHO :)

That said, ICE may nab people coming OUT of church, but they aren't going to be raiding churches with services going on. The optics would be terrible for Trump's fake religiosity. He's dumb, but not THAT dumb.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 12:21 AM

4. that's what I was thinking too

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:48 AM

5. It would definitely show them for what they are.

BTW, I wasn't advocating church asylum; just pointing out an interesting historical fact.

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Response to trev (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 01:51 AM

6. I didn't think you were and I always enjoy historical facts ...

I'd LOVE IT if ICE went into churches during services to arrest people ... it'd be the WORST POSSIBLE PR for them, and for IQ45.

Not because I'D care (well, not anymore than I care otherwise) ... but a shit-ton of people that would otherwise support Trump would be PISSED.

So, bring it ON!!!

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