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Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:22 AM

YES, COLLUSION Mueller Missed the Crime: Trump's Campaign Coordinated With Russia

YES, COLLUSION
Mueller Missed the Crime: Trump’s Campaign Coordinated With Russia
The special counsel will testify before Congress next week. He needs to answer for historic legal and factual errors.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert-mueller-missed-the-crime-trumps-campaign-coordinated-with-russia

Ever since the release of the Mueller Report, countless commentators have implored everyone to just #ReadtheReport. The problem is not who is reading it—the problem is the report itself, and its many errors.

Robert Mueller made a significant legal error and erroneously cleared President Donald Trump and his campaign of wrongdoing on campaign coordination with Russia. Mueller’s errors meant that, first, he failed to conclude that the Trump campaign criminally coordinated with Russia; second, he failed to indict campaign chairman Paul Manafort and his deputy Rick Gates for felony campaign coordination (see in a concise timeline below); third, the 10 acts of felony obstruction in Volume II fell flat among the general public because it lacked compelling context of these underlying crimes between the campaign and Russia. On top of these errors, the former special counsel said he deliberately wrote the report to be unclear because it would be unfair to make clear criminal accusations against a president.

The bottom line is that the Mueller Report is a failure not because of Congress or because of public apathy, but because it failed to get the law, the facts, or even the basics of writing right. When Mueller testifies before Congress on July 17, he should be pressed on all of this.

The DOJ’s initial appointment explicitly tasked Mueller with investigating campaign “coordination,” and it is not too much to ask that he get the law of “coordination” right. The report stated that “‘coordination’ does not have a settled definition in federal criminal law. We understood coordination to require an agreement—tacit or express.”

However, Congress purposely sought to prevent such narrow interpretations: in 2002, it passed a statute directing that campaign finance regulations “shall not require agreement or formal collaboration to establish coordination.” The Federal Election Commission established the regulations for the implementation of the statute: “Coordinated means made in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of, a candidate,” with no need to show any kind of agreement.

Outside spending for coordinated communications is an in-kind contribution, and foreign contributions are completely prohibited. And Congress made the criminal penalties unmistakably clear: “Any person who knowingly and willfully commits a violation of any provision of this Act” commits a crime. The Supreme Court upheld these limits in McConnell v. FEC with crucial observations about the functional role of suggestions, rather than agreements: “[E]xpenditures made after a wink or nod often will be as useful to the candidate as cash.” This timeline is full of suggestions far more explicit than winks and nods.

As the Supreme Court acknowledged, this is not about bribery and quid pro quo; it’s about outsourcing a consistent campaign messaging and expenses to known allies. It seems Mueller did not hire any legal experts with experience in campaign finance regulation. Given that this investigation was about campaign crimes, this appears to a revealing oversight with serious consequences.

In addition to ignoring these rules, Mueller also made a major organizational error: Volume I separates the events of Russian hacking from the actions of the Trump campaign. The entire point of a “conspiracy and coordination” investigation was the relationship between the two. The ongoing pattern of signal or invitation with response, of cause-and-effect, gets utterly lost in the hundreds of pages of details, the siloing of each character, and especially in the omissions and the errors.

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Reply YES, COLLUSION Mueller Missed the Crime: Trump's Campaign Coordinated With Russia (Original post)
dajoki Wednesday OP
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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:29 AM

1. Barr shut down Mueller before he was done.

BTW

Mueller Report in less than 280 characters

Mueller Report: 1) A hostile foreign power intervened aggressively to rig our 2016 elections to help Trump. 2) During the campaign, Trump welcomed & encouraged it. 3) As president, Trump obstructed justice, abused his power, slandered, fired & lied to block the investigations.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:30 AM

2. Will Mueller testify to that?

Will he even show up?

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Response to SHRED (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:32 AM

4. Barr stopped 11 different investigations by Mueller as per Mueller's testimony I suspect he ...

... will be very careful in his language but his report as it is written now is very damning to Trump
and company.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:36 AM

25. If he refuses to testify about that, it's pretty damning and Congressional Dems will make hay of it.

Good cross-examination exploits refusals as much as it exploits answers.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:34 AM

5. Yep.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:43 AM

6. He stopped Mueller before he issued any charging statements and then said he was going to ...

.... redact from his version of the report any person who was not charged.


https://themoscowproject.org/explainers/trumps-russia-cover-up-by-the-numbers-70-contacts-with-russia-linked-operatives/


TRUMP’S RUSSIA COVER-UP BY THE NUMBERS – 272 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIA-LINKED OPERATIVES


Last Updated June 3, 2019

On April 18, 2019, a redacted copy of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s “Report On The Investigation Into Russian Interference In The 2016 Presidential Election” (Mueller Report) was released to the public. The Mueller report builds on the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that there were two campaigns to elect Donald Trump— one run by Trump and one run by the Russian government. The Mueller report clearly identified collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia, despite repeated denials from Trump and many of his senior advisers and close associates that there were any connections between the two campaigns.

A total of 272 contacts between Trump’s team and Russia-linked operatives have been identified, including at least 38 meetings. And we know that at least 33 high-ranking campaign officials and Trump advisers were aware of contacts with Russia-linked operatives during the campaign and transition, including Trump himself. None of these contacts were ever reported to the proper authorities. Instead, the Trump team tried to cover up every single one of them.

Beyond the many lies the Trump team told to the American people, Mueller himself repeatedly remarked on how far the Trump team was willing to go to hide their Russian contacts, stating, “the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference.”


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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:50 AM

7. I think the House can connect the dots between the campaign and

Russia with a few poignant questions.

Is that what Mueller was waiting for? An authority that would say what he didn't have the balls to say?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:01 AM

8. Russia rat fucked our elections, the Trump campaign was happy for the help and was in contact ....

.... over 272 times, and Trump and company obstructed any investigations into what Russia did in 2016
and any and all links between Trump and Russia.

Sadly I think we have at least 25% of Americans who have been so polarized that they don't care
what Russia did because that Hillary was d**e b***h with a liberal agenda.

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:05 AM

10. My conversation with a Trumper-Democrat was eye opening.

She said she couldn't vote for any of the Dem candidates because she wasn't sure they were going to give away our country over the immigration issue.

I was so dumbfounded. What about fucking Russia!

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:27 AM

14. I have a customer who is smart, manages a very busy optical practice, and she really thinks ...

... that Hillary had somebody killed to cover up Bill's cocaine operation.

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Response to Botany (Reply #14)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:35 AM

24. Some people's beliefs defy rationality. But it's pretty common probably.

A tragedy that it partially led to Trump as POTUS.

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Response to triron (Reply #24)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:51 AM

28. "Some people's beliefs defy rationality."

Thanx to:

Fox News
Right Wing Christian Crap pushed off as "the word of God"
hate radio and TV
Infowars, world net daily, breitbart, National Enquirer, and others
a useless media that still talks about how Trump and w bush won their elections
the GOP
the "both sides do it" meme
the global warming is not real and just a plot by liberals meme
the dumbing down of America's education
the use of guns and abortion to get people "hot and bothered"
deep seated racism, sexism, and anti-intellectual thoughts
manipulation of the thinking of millions of Americans by the Kochs, Mercers, and so on
and just plan being stupid and proud of it too.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #10)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:47 AM

27. I helped man the local Democratic Party booth at our county fair last week

Nearly everyone who expressed a beef with the Democratic party focused on the "immigration issue". Perhaps it was because we had a mannequin in a cage covered with a foil blanket, but it was one of the main issues that people gravitate towards.

One interesting tactic in helping them understand is to refer them to Indeed.com or Monster.com and have them look up how many openings there are for farm laborers and meat processors.

Ask them where they think their chicken nuggets come from.

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Response to Botany (Reply #8)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:40 AM

17. I had a nurse tell me she saw foreigners in black SUVs

Going around in a small city in East TN. I asked what did she think they were here for. She said they were taking note of the people with guns and they were going to come back after, the election, and take away their guns.

This was from a nurse taking care of my sick wife. I stayed the night until she was released the next morning.

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Response to Farmer-Rick (Reply #17)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:22 AM

22. We need to collect these, because the world will never believe us.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:56 AM

21. Of course the House as a whole can. But the GOP side will object, deny, obfuscate and scream

on and on about Dems’ never-ending witch-hunt, can’t accept the facts, etc., etc.

That’s why we need to start impeachment proceedings. The GOP is never going to acquiesce on this. But the public will be able to connect the dots themselves if we go through the process. And that will be fatal to the GOP in 2020.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:09 AM

11. I think he will testify that the Russian part of the investigation was not complete.

if he testifies that he was pressured to end the investigation, that will be a bombshell.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

12. I also think that is what happened n/t

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:46 AM

18. Yep.

One of the first questions I'd like to see Mueller asked.

Did Attorney General Barr ask you to shut down (or wind down) your investigation, and/or did he suggest a timetable for finishing up?

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 09:32 AM

3. Mueller was building the case.

Barr is destroying it.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:01 AM

9. Will White House lawyers be in the Committee meeting with Mueller?

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:21 AM

13. Agree completely. Mueller worked overtime letting trump, his family, and campaign off the hook.

With regard to collusion, conspiracy, whatever one wants to call it, Mueller used the phrase, the investigation "did not identify evidence . . . . . ."

As an example, the report says: "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons knowingly or intentionally coordinated with the IRA's interference operation."

Mueller even excused Kush and Junior for the trump tower meeting by essentially saying they were too stupid to have the intent necessary to violate the law, and Mueller was unable to put a value on any information discussed. Similarly, Mueller let Manafort off giving polling data to the Ruskies.

Mueller wimped out. If he was shut down by Barr or anyone else, he should have said so. Hopefully, he'll repent next week, but I'm not counting on it.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:35 AM

15. Wow this is a brilliant post. Exactly... if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.... it's

coordination. They over thought and out smarted themselves into knots trying to be precise.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:49 AM

33. Is that the legal standard? It sounds like the author is arguing that it is.

It would seem to create a legal scenario where a candidate could possibly be held legally liable for anything that anyone does to help them.

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 09:30 AM

36. I'm not sure what it is you are saying. The legal standard and burden of proof is well known by

OSC. I think the point of the post was to criticize Mueller for not pursuing the real crimes of coordination and collusion which were campaign finance law violations. There certainly amble circumstantial evidence to make the case that Trump violated campaign finance law when accepted help from the Russians. Why then didn’t Mueller at least address the coordination in the context of campaign finance violations where Mueller finds that Trump’s campaign certainly benefited from the Russians help.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:36 AM

16. But it's too soon to impeach. Sarcasm.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:53 AM

19. Mueller chose to support republicans over the United States

as it appears to me. And his follow up support of *his* report was lackluster, to say the least. He had a lot of people counting on him to be definitive but he let Barr and tRump roll right over his work. The Dems in congress dragging their feet hasn't helped much either. Let's hope this next hearing changes some of that.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 10:54 AM

20. There was nonstop - MASSIVE collusion!

Including the fact that the Trump Campaign Chairman gave detailed polling data to a Russian intelligence agent, whom he also discussed strategies for winning swing states.

The Trump Administration sought to undo U.S. sanctions on Russia on DAY ONE of their administration!

There's your

QUID PRO QUO



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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:35 AM

23. Must read. Mueller appears to be of a

hindrance than a help. He missed, ignored or minimized a number of key connections., but did this happen deliberately and did it doom Mueller's mission from the start?

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 11:42 AM

26. This is extemely well-written; I hope our congress-critters read it as they prepare to grill Mueller

It makes the case so clear, and doesn't require any new data: only a more clear presentation.

I recommend reading the whole article.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 12:16 PM

29. This needs to be labelled as opinion/analysis

... at least until we learn more from Mueller directly - a la congressional investigation.

I know that Daily Beast has been dogging this story for at least 3 years, and they've done a great job. However they can't jump the gun and run "news stories" when they are actually "opinions."

Thank you Daily Beast, I will watch the Mueller testimony next week and then I'll re-read this with great interest.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #29)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:52 PM

31. No it doesn't.

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 04:51 PM

30. knr

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Wed Jul 10, 2019, 06:29 PM

32. kick for visibility

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 08:53 AM

34. knr

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 09:02 AM

35. "Missed"? Mueller is a war criminal Rethuglican responsible for millions of Iraqi deaths.

Why do we assume it was "missed"?

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Response to dajoki (Original post)

Thu Jul 11, 2019, 02:33 PM

37. kick again

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