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Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:50 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez responds to Trump's use 'Evita' as a slur




It's worth noting that far-right Argentine politician Darío Lopérfido, one of the country's most infamous Dirty War denialists (at least 22,000 were killed, according to dictatorship officials themselves), was the first to attack the post.

Lopérfido left Argentina in 2017 after his name appeared in the Panama Papers scandal.

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Reply Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez responds to Trump's use 'Evita' as a slur (Original post)
sandensea Monday OP
gratuitous Monday #1
sandensea Tuesday #2
comradebillyboy Tuesday #3
sandensea Tuesday #4
melman Tuesday #5
jcmaine72 Tuesday #6
EllieBC Tuesday #7
sandensea Tuesday #8
EllieBC Tuesday #9
sandensea Tuesday #10

Response to sandensea (Original post)

Mon Jul 8, 2019, 11:55 PM

1. She lives in his head rent-free, doesn't she?

Seems like you've gotten past your pull date, Donald.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:12 AM

2. He should resign, and go into Broadway

"As Perón?" he'd no doubt ask.

"No, Donald. As one of the fat, conceited oafs who resented Evita as 'that low-class whore'."

(Argentine right-wingers are a lot like Republicans: they consider any woman who in some way breaks the mold either a 'bitch' or a 'whore')

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Response to sandensea (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:24 AM

3. I like her when she's fighting Trump. I don't liike her

when she's fighting Nancy Pelosi or arranging primaries of other democrats outside of her district. I'm not a fan of the entire DSA and Justice Democrat scene.

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Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 12:37 AM

4. +1

She's idealistic and passionate - but like Evita, she's very young and, like many young people, needs to learn pick her fights more carefully.

And that you never fight your friends and allies, except as a very last resort (if that).

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Response to sandensea (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:42 AM

5. She's the best

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Response to melman (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:44 AM

6. +100000000000

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Response to sandensea (Original post)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 01:51 AM

7. She knows the Perons were Nazi sympathizers right?

JFC. Let’s not get excited because Evita said something cool once. She wore the stolen goods and benefited from the money of dead Jews. Her trash husband allowed Mengele to seek refuge in Argentina.

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Response to EllieBC (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:02 AM

8. They weren't. Peron allowed some in for their money and know-how - just as Truman did

While he admired what he saw as the fascists' political skill (Mussolini) in the pre-war years (well before he became president), Perón himself was very much a social democrat.

And he was the first Argentine president to be inclusive toward the country's Jewish community, including numerous Jewish policy-makers in his administration and consulting with them when shaping economic policy.

Many Jewish small-businesspeople became wealthy retailers and industrialists largely as a result.

Perón was one of the first world leaders to recognize Israel, and gave them millions in aid - including a state-owned mansion for use as Israel's embassy in Buenos Aires.

He was also the first to take into account women, the working class and poor, and minorities (including religious minorities), in his policy considerations - one of the first in Latin America to do so, in fact.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #8)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:13 AM

9. So he didn't know Mengele and Eichmann came in?

I don’t care how super awesome of a socialist he was. You let in murderers like that to hide that makes you trash.

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Response to EllieBC (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 9, 2019, 02:46 AM

10. It's possible - but keep in mind many Nazis (inc. those two) used false identities

Argentina, unlike the U.S., has very scanty foreign intelligence resources, and the identities of war criminals were often not known to government officials.

Mengele and Eichmann, for instance, lived poorly - especially Eichmann, who lived in what you might call the boondocks.

In some cases, they came in not through state auspices (though some, such as physicist Ronald "fusion in a bottle" Richter, did) - but at the invitation of Nazi sympathizers in Argentina. García Merou and the Eichhorns were the most notorious.

This was a common problem throughout Latin America, where many in the elite - and not just Germans - had favored the Nazis during the war.

Perón, like most Latin American leaders at the time (and Truman as well), had an ambivalent role. He did seize some Nazi-linked properties - including their embassy. But in other cases, he looked the other way.

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