"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy."

[SouthernProgressive]

“He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it – Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Donald Trump

Virginia Guiffre has previously claimed that she was recruited to give Epstein massages while working at Mar-a-Lago. She states that Epsteins friend Ghislaine Maxwell is the person who recruited her.

Politico

"Jane Doe AKA Katie Johnson," a thirteen year old girl, alleged that Trump raped her at Epsteins home in '93. She later dropped the charges out of fear.

Justice For Katie


BuzzFeed

[jberryhill]

1. ""Jane Doe AKA Katie Johnson," a thirteen year old girl"

So, tell me, why do you suppose the USAO-SDNY didn't include that in the Epstein indictment.

The youngest victim in the indictment is 14.

Did they do their math wrong?

[Kingofalldems]

2. Epstein was indicted, not Trump

[jberryhill]

4. Yes, so?

If you bother to read the "Katie Johnson" allegations (although they have morphed over time between the CA and NY filings), they involve Epstein.

The "Katie Johnson" stuff is the "Texas Air National Guard Memo" of the Trump/Epstein allegations, for reasons which are pretty well documented for anyone who bothers to check into the history of this particular thread.

Johnson claims she was raped by Epstein. So, what is "Epstein was indicted, not Trump" supposed to mean?

If you are going to believe in the "Katie Johnson" story, then you should at least know what the story is.

From the "Katie Johnson" New York filing:


"12.

Defendant Epstein had sexual contact with Plaintiff at two of the parties. The second sexual encounter with Defendant Epstein took place after Plaintiff had been raped by Defendant Trump. Defendant Epstein forced himself upon Plaintiff and proceeded to rape her anally and vaginally despite her loud pleas to stop. Defendant Epstein then attempted to strike Plaintiff about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff that he, Defendant Epstein, rather than Defendant Trump, should have been the one who took
Plaintiff’s virginity, before Plaintiff finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein."


So, I'll ask again, why isn't this one included in the Epstein indictment, in which the youngest victim is 14, not 13?

[SouthernProgressive]

3. I'm not aware that the indictment against Epstein...

Includes any women raped by other men nor was I aware that is consists of all victims of Epsteins.

There can be lots of reasons.

[jberryhill]

5. What do you mean by "women raped by other men"?

The "Katie Johnson" NY filing says this:

"12.

Defendant Epstein had sexual contact with Plaintiff at two of the parties. The second sexual encounter with Defendant Epstein took place after Plaintiff had been raped by Defendant Trump. Defendant Epstein forced himself upon Plaintiff and proceeded to rape her anally and vaginally despite her loud pleas to stop. Defendant Epstein then attempted to strike Plaintiff about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at Plaintiff that he, Defendant Epstein, rather than Defendant Trump, should have been the one who took
Plaintiff’s virginity, before Plaintiff finally managed to break away from Defendant Epstein."

Epstein is not "other men".

You included the link to the web page collecting money for "Katie Johnson". Are you suggesting that she is collecting money and NOT participating in any legal action or the prosecution of Epstein?

What do you suppose the money is for?

[SouthernProgressive]

8. My op was in reference to her encounter with Trump.

Not other men.

From the BuzzFeed link.

"A woman claims Trump raped her at a party in 1994 when she was just 13 years old."

[jberryhill]

10. The "Katie Johnson" claims she was raped by Epstein

It's in the material you linked.

[matt819]

6. I think that takes his association with Epstein back to 1977

That's 42 years. That's a lot of trafficking. That's a lot of pedophilia.

I can't wait to see reports of every single contact between Epstein, Barr, and Trump over those 42 years. Every photo of them together, in any combination. Every location. Every public comment about their relationships. Every. Single. One. Link all of that to their marriages, divorces, business developments.

I don't see this investigation spiraling down the memory hole. It's too public. And I'll be happy with a conviction that will put him away for life. Of course, I'll be delighted with him implicating Trump and others. But I also am looking forward to what the journalists come up with. There are some who've been following him for years. Others will now join the scrum. Should be interesting.

[real Cannabis calm]

9. here's a 5th recommendation

[ALBliberal]

11. Very hopeful that a nude photo of Katie's will surface

Her story is very believable and detailed and I hope her story will be validated.