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Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:42 PM

The Guardian: Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. It's not enough just to laugh at him

(Of course, nobody here is laughing about his ambition to be a dictator. We take his presidency as seriously as a heart attack. But we do laugh at him when he acts a fool and talks about Revolutionary War airports and covfefe and when he trails a piece of toilet paper onto Air Force Once and when his hair flips up and exposes his bald scalp. He's a buffoon, but he could lead the most powerful country in the world into a place so dark it simply will never recover. Rome's fall was once completely unimaginable, after all. Anyway: )

This [the border crisis] too is what dictators do: demonising a group – in this case, migrants – as an alien threat, an army of invaders, so intensely and for so long that eventually any fate, no matter how brutal or inhumane, seems deserved, even when it is inflicted on that group’s youngest and most vulnerable members. Breaking up families, caging children in hot, fetid, disease-ridden camps – this is what dictators do.

But we hesitate to see it for what it is. Again, the laughter gets in the way. So we snigger at Ivanka Trump ludicrously barging her way into a powwow of world leaders, making a meme of #uninvitedIvanka, rather than confronting head-on the reality that Trump is doing what dictators always do: he’s building a hereditary dynasty, so that his power won’t end with his death. Those images at the G20 looked absurd to us, but they will take their place in the showreel, so that, come the 2024 or 2028 elections, they can be used as proof of Ivanka’s supposed experience on the global stage.

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Why don’t we see all this as the behaviour of a would-be dictator? Part of it is a language problem. The archetypal despot lodged in the collective imagination does not speak English. Dub a Trump speech into, say, Italian, show it in black and white, and perhaps then we’d spot the similarity. Part of it is that Trump has not been able to do his worst. No elections have been overturned, no dissidents jailed, no journalists arrested. The restraints of the US system have, so far, kept Trump in check.

Yet that can lull us into a false sense of security, what political scientist David Runciman calls “the confidence trap”: the belief that, because democracy has withstood past threats, it will withstand present and future ones too. That’s complacent, not least because those restraints are fraying fast. Note how Trump is appointing sympathetic judges in record numbers: you can’t rely on the courts to check an authoritarian president if the courts are increasingly in that president’s image.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/05/donald-trump-dictator-not-enough-laugh

(I kind of love the idea of dubbing one of his speeches into Italian, running English subtitles along the bottom of the screen, and showing it in black and white. I hope the DNC's advertising agencies are super creative this time around; they have an excess of material to work with.)

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Reply The Guardian: Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. It's not enough just to laugh at him (Original post)
renate Jul 6 OP
Iliyah Jul 6 #1
Hermit-The-Prog Jul 6 #5
pangaia Jul 6 #2
Turin_C3PO Jul 6 #3
pangaia Jul 6 #4
KentuckyWoman Jul 6 #6
at140 Jul 6 #8
KentuckyWoman Jul 6 #9
dixiegrrrrl Jul 6 #11
kentuck Jul 6 #7
delisen Jul 6 #10

Response to renate (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:48 PM

1. shithole is extremely dangerous

and extremely stupid.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 08:10 PM

5. his greedy enablers are even more dangerous

The GOP has been feeding a billionaire's club and breeding an extremist cult for decades. There are middle-aged voters now who have grown up hearing nothing but RW extremist propaganda. They believe that liberals are The Enemy, not political competitors.

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Response to renate (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:50 PM

2. The DNC super creative?? That will NEVER happen.



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Response to pangaia (Reply #2)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:54 PM

3. The DNC has a lot of material to work with this cycle.

He’s such a buffoon, the ads are gonna make themselves.

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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 07:56 PM

4. Yes, they do. But have you ever known the DNC to be brilliant, creative?



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Response to renate (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 08:20 PM

6. The whole point of the tanks and flyovers was telling us the Military is in his pocket.

Anyone who would stand up against his shit has quit / retired. That's really the only option they have other than withstand a court martial for disobeying the commander in chief.

Now the yes men run the military. Deeper shit is about to commence.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 08:36 PM

8. Yikes

You mean deeper doo-doo than we are in now?

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Response to at140 (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 08:59 PM

9. Well, it's a little bit out in tin foil hat land but

Up until now the Military generally told Redacted to go get bent so to speak.

Kick out "teh gays" ... eh, no... not based on a tweet. If we get an executive order then we'll determine how to proceed..... (he can get bent)

Parade? ... eh, no.... we'll just determine it costs too much and let him save face for that reason (get bent)

etc etc etc.

In the meantime, every time I turn around another top brass is "retiring". And It really is the only option they have other than court martial.

NOW - we have Generals who will deliver spanky's toys. Gladly. That really does worry me.

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Response to KentuckyWoman (Reply #9)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:37 PM

11. the Border Patrol and ICE agents sound awfully damn mean and serious tho..


I worry about those types, and now we are hearing at least 2 different forums on Facebook hosts
ugly ugly BP posts.
these guys are dangerous, as are the men that give them orders.

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Response to renate (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 08:25 PM

7. kick

for the hard truth.

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Response to renate (Original post)

Sat Jul 6, 2019, 10:09 PM

10. Actually Reality Winner is in prison-she leaked the information about Russian

infiltration of our 2016 election-I think she counts as a dissident jailed.
She was charged under the Espionage Act and the document she sent to a journalist was evidence of Russian hacking into our election.

But this Guardian article makes a great point about not laughing at Donald Trump-tempting s it is.

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