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Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 06:02 PM Jul 2019

Has the Condederate flag become the American swastika?

The swastika is outlawed in Germany.

I've heard that German neo-Nazis use the Confederate flag to replace the swastika.

There's so much bullshit online that it's hard to know what's true. Does anyone know if German neo-Nazis use the Confederate flag in this way?

As for here, sane Americans know that that Southern rag isn't about "heritage." It's about hatred, racism, white superiority and the most misguided shit the human mind is capable of.

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Has the Condederate flag become the American swastika? (Original Post) Cyrano Jul 2019 OP
Ask these people: johnp3907 Jul 2019 #1
It's the dixie swastika Fullduplexxx Jul 2019 #2
Yes. N/T mwooldri Jul 2019 #3
Actually the swastika is Germany's Confederate flag. KansasKali Jul 2019 #4
To the Confederate states shame it will always be the "Traitors Slavery Flag"....Period Submariner Jul 2019 #5
They are both symbols for White Supremacy, that is for sure. Caliman73 Jul 2019 #6
Nope. They both have their own horror that compares to nothing. LakeArenal Jul 2019 #7
D'ja need to ask? marble falls Jul 2019 #8
It always was. guillaumeb Jul 2019 #9

Caliman73

(11,735 posts)
6. They are both symbols for White Supremacy, that is for sure.
Fri Jul 5, 2019, 06:29 PM
Jul 2019

Hitler and the Nazis were actually influenced by some of the racial laws in the United States prior to and right after the Civil War including the Jim Crow laws that were still in effect into the 1930's and beyond. Of course the Nazis had their own mythology based in Aryanism and the occult, but there was a shared White Supremacy aspect which created mutual support from elements within American society (notably Charles Lindbergh and the America First movement).

Ultimately I would say no to joining the two together. The Battle Flag is as uniquely American as the Reich flag is German. The US needs to come to terms with its own history of racism which predated the creation of the German state by 200 years. We do need to have a reckoning about it. I understand the desire to link the two with the Holocaust being such a seminal issue for world history, but like I said, I think that we have our own skeletons to deal with. Germany for a long time had dealt with theirs in a pretty comprehensive way.

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