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Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:41 PM

He's planning to keep immigrant kids at GITMO!!!!!!!!!

the Defense Department awarded a $23 million dollar contract to construct a “Contingency Mass Migration Complex” at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Station”
According to the Q&A attached to the solicitation for that award, the contractor specifically inquired about holding migrant children at that facility and was told that several migrant children have in fact been held there within the past few years.


With the government running out of space to detain migrant children, the Trump administration has floated GITMO as a solution and the award specifies that children and families may be detained at the GITMO facility under the terms of the contract. https://www.fbo.gov/utils/dZip?base=cdfcf19ad2e8f7541f38c41ceb6bf6c9&class=document_package_archive&id=025cf3182db7dc43f0ac5d8368995e67




go to her main Twitter link for the rest of the info.

There is a protest planned for Jul 2, first I heard of it was today.

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Reply He's planning to keep immigrant kids at GITMO!!!!!!!!! (Original post)
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 OP
GeorgeGist Jun 30 #1
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #2
malaise Jun 30 #3
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #6
backtoblue Jun 30 #4
alwaysinasnit Jun 30 #5
dhill926 Jun 30 #7
CurtEastPoint Jun 30 #11
bdamomma Jul 1 #45
AJT Jun 30 #8
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #15
jberryhill Jun 30 #30
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #31
jberryhill Jun 30 #33
Chin music Jul 1 #39
jberryhill Jun 30 #29
Doreen Jun 30 #9
Name removed Jun 30 #10
AJT Jun 30 #12
Ramsey Barner Jun 30 #18
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #20
jberryhill Jun 30 #28
AJT Jun 30 #23
orangecrush Jun 30 #25
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #34
orangecrush Jul 1 #35
dixiegrrrrl Jul 1 #38
ProudMNDemocrat Jun 30 #13
world wide wally Jun 30 #14
Honeycombe8 Jun 30 #16
dixiegrrrrl Jun 30 #22
MustLoveBeagles Jun 30 #17
DallasNE Jun 30 #19
Takket Jun 30 #21
AlexSFCA Jun 30 #24
Midnight Writer Jun 30 #26
orangecrush Jul 1 #36
patphil Jun 30 #27
UniteFightBack Jun 30 #32
orangecrush Jul 1 #37
Nuggets Jul 1 #40
roamer65 Jul 1 #41
Chin music Jul 1 #42
dixiegrrrrl Jul 1 #44
uponit7771 Jul 1 #46
bdamomma Jul 1 #47
Blue Owl Jul 1 #43

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:43 PM

1. The Contagion spreads ...

no cure in sight.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:43 PM

2. and this...

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:43 PM

3. WTF?

Get thee to the greatest page

This is not happening - No! Scream!

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Response to malaise (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:50 PM

6. We need to call and send massive amount of messages to House members.



and quickly. Major reaching out to all your family/friends to do so too.

thank god I have one Dem Congress person now.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:47 PM

4. No fucking way!



No no no no no!!!!



These babies need homes and reunited with their families. THIS IS EVIL!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:48 PM

5. K&R Thanks for emphasizing that point.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:56 PM

7. National strike..:

shut it down. Fuck this shit...

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #7)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:59 PM

11. AMEN!

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Response to dhill926 (Reply #7)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:47 PM

45. This cannot

be done in our name.

Where is the Humanitarian World Organizations to label this POS as a perpetrator of child abuse and crimes against humanity.

We need to stop this. Who will be next????

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:57 PM

8. The link is convoluted, I'm not sure what it says.

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Response to AJT (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:34 PM

15. It says that Trump gave out a 23 million $$$ contract


to hold immigrants at Gitmo, which is a secure and secretive prisoner base.
It means that no one can have access to the kids, no access to any information about the immigrants.
and the contractor cannot give out any info.
They will be disappeared.

Just today, a Court had to order BP to provide doctors for the people being held at the border camps.
Think about that...immigrants are dying, one man died today, there are no doctors for the thousands of prisoners.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #15)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:35 PM

30. Yes

But it’s been there since 1991.

Here’s a fairly comprehensive piece on how the immigration detention center got there in 1991, and was subsequently used by the Clinton, W, and Obama administrations.

https://www.shimajournal.org/issues/v6n2/g.-Dastyari-and-Effeney-Shima-v6n2-49-65.pdf

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #30)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:51 PM

31. thank you for that.


I had no idea.

Problem is much bigger than we thought.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:58 PM

33. Depends on what you are defining as the problem


Not sure whether you remember the “Mariel boatlift” crisis during the latter days of Carter administration, but “boat people” are a common refugee phenomenon in various bodies of water, including the Caribbean.

Aside from Cubans and Haitians, we might expect Venezuelans to be turning up in increasing numbers at sea in the Caribbean:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/25/venezuelan-refugees-feared-drowned-trinidad-boat-sinks

The Guantanamo facility has been used for decades to process migrants intercepted at sea in the Caribbean.

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Response to AJT (Reply #8)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:30 PM

29. It is an record of a contract


For security at the Guantanamo Migrant Operation Center which, for decades, has been the faculty used to process Cuban and Haitian migrants found at sea in the Caribbean by the US Coast Guard.

US Policy has been - for a very long time - that if Cubans make it to US soil (dry foot) then they automatically qualify for asylum. However, if the Cubans are intercepted at sea (wet foot), then they are not automatically qualified and must be processed before being admitted to the US.

The Guantanamo MOC, for which the link is to a contract that was awarded to Wackenhut, for example during the Bush administration, is where that happens.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lesterfeder/would-be-asylum-seekers-are-stuck-at-guantanamo-bay

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 07:58 PM

9. JFC!!!!!!!! WTF!!!!

They are going to put them where violent terrorists ( for the ones who actually are ) are housed!!!!??? WTF!!! WTF!!!! JFC!!!!!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:03 PM

12. I'll wait for NYT or Wapo yo report on this before I believe it.

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Response to AJT (Reply #12)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:46 PM

18. That the administration is considering doing this was reported months ago.

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Response to Ramsey Barner (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:18 PM

20. Thank you for those links, I had missed them.


So now, looks like they ARE moving ahead with the plan, by asking for contractors to submit proposals, which is what
RfP..Request for Proposals means in the tweet info. ( In another life, I used to write and submit proposals for my agency).

The thing about Trump, tho, is he tends to back off in the face of fierce objections.
But also to quietly try it again.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #20)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:25 PM

28. The Guantanamo MOC has been in operation for quite a while

The last UN observation of it was 2012:

https://www.globaldetentionproject.org/countries/americas/united-states/detention-centres/924/guantanamo-migrant-operations-center

The Guantanamo Bay MOC deals with Cubans and Haitians found at sea by the Coast Guard in the Caribbean. Here’s a report on it from the Obama administration:


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/lesterfeder/would-be-asylum-seekers-are-stuck-at-guantanamo-bay

Entirely ignored in that debate is the fact that Guantanamo also holds another group of people the U.S. doesn’t want to let into the country: people fleeing persecution — mostly from Cuba and Haiti — who the Coast Guard picked up at sea before they made it to U.S. shores.

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If they had managed to set foot on dry land in Florida, they would have a right to request asylum in the United States and would be entitled to lawyers and other legal protections as their claims were processed. But since they were picked up at sea, they have no right to asylum in the United States and instead have their cases processed at Guantanamo Bay, where they have no access to lawyers or courts. If they prove their persecution claims to the satisfaction of a U.S. official, they are resettled abroad, not in the U.S.

In the run up to Obama’s visit to Cuba this weekend, the White House affirmed that it would leave what’s known as the “wet-foot, dry-foot” policy unchanged. That means it will continue using Guantanamo Bay to process those who have a credible fear of persecution.

The numbers now held in the Migrant Operations Center are small, though 121 people have been resettled from there since Obama took office.

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Response to Ramsey Barner (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:33 PM

23. Thanks.

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Response to Ramsey Barner (Reply #18)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:03 PM

25. Since when does this asshole



give a fuck about optics?

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #25)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 11:05 PM

34. when his republican supporters are going up for re-election. n/t

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #34)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:01 AM

35. I really don't think



This psychopath recognizes any form of restraint.

The time for politics as usual was past when he was sworn in.

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Response to orangecrush (Reply #35)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:35 AM

38. Agree.


It's scary. Gonna be hell to pay if we do nothing, and/or if we standup to him. Either way
Not to mention the cabal that is using him to get what they want.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:11 PM

13. Talk about a HUGE STAIN on the reputation of the United States.....

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What's left of our reputation.

Imprisoning young children and babies. Their crime, wanting a better life to live and breathe free.

Lady Liberty must be weeping her eyes out about now with the news and with the prospect of a 2nd Trump term if we do not get out voters out.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:21 PM

14. Fuck these asshole Nazis

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:42 PM

16. Oh, no.

I can see how a mind like Trump's and his loyalists might think it's logical, since there's space there and we're running out of space here, and there are constructed buildings there presumably w/air conditioning (?) or some environmental controls, but medical providers and child safety reps would not be able to routinely check on them, and no telling what kinds of things would go on there.

How will we know they're putting children there? How will we know how they're being treated? How will we know if any of them get sick or injured or, God forbid, die?

Being kept out of sight from the country by people who regard them as subhuman is unacceptable. Yet another lawsuit? Can a lawsuit stop it?

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:24 PM

22. I suspect ACLU, or CREW, or some others will sue.


What WE can do is make sure people know about this, and keep it from being a secret.

and if we can't march, we can donate to those who can sue,

and we can send a LOT of letters/emails/phone calls to our Congress people, even if they are Repub. because they are all aware of the coming election.
We can be a mighty fearsome noise, at least.

this kind of black prison stuff is what happens in the countries that Trump is trying to emulate.

It simply musn't happen here.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 08:45 PM

17. I really, REALLY hate the Orange Menace!

Goddam him!

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:17 PM

19. What, Fort Knox Is Full?

That will keep the prying eyes out. A maximum detention facility - really. Is that what Putin suggested at the G20. He talked about immigration, we know that.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:21 PM

21. a lot easier to kill them and get rid of them away from prying eyes of the media and congress

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 09:33 PM

24. from concentration camps to death camps

trump will respond: either this or wall

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:09 PM

26. Again, Trump is drawing his base over a psychological moral line. Gitmo is a symbol,

and Trump's team knows it.


This is a psyops. Like a cult leader, he demands more and more of one's individuality and personality, and with each step away from normalcy comes a deeper commitment. They are burning bridges so they cannot turn back.

The Trump followers are being "groomed" to be sociopaths.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #26)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:02 AM

36. +1

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

27. But, then, GITMO isn't a concentration camp either is it?

IS IT???

Would they make the kids wear orange jump suits?
I mean, orange is a tribute to Trump isn't it?

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 10:57 PM

32. We are running out of space in AMERICA? Fuck outta here with that bullshit rump. WE MUST DEFEAT

HIM.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #32)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 12:02 AM

37. "Politics as usual"



The time for that is past.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:24 AM

40. I wonder if some of these children are being trafficked.

It never made sense to take these children across the nation to various detention centers from the get go. It’s like the separations were purposeful.

Trump /GOP created this crisis by closing down ports for those seeking asylum and aggressively cutting asylum for certain groups, as well as targeting undocumented immigrants purposely bottle necking the system.

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 02:27 AM

41. I think you are real close to the truth.

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:40 PM

44. There have been sexual abuse stories coming out.


I think whatever could make a buck on the kids will be done...De Vos has/had connections to one of the biggest global adoption agencies, which was charging 50 K in ..."fees" for young kids.

And...sigh...there is no denying Trump has child trafficking pals, and has been accused of child rape himself.

I have a feeling Cohen needed 8 arms to catch all the lawsuits aimed at trump.

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:49 PM

46. With the help of the guy who has an eye for women who look like his daughter?! ... nah, never /sar

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Response to Nuggets (Reply #40)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 08:51 PM

47. The first

question about when this started was where are the girls and babies????? Remember that??? Trafficking of course someone is making big time blood money off the misery of others. This must stop.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Original post)

Mon Jul 1, 2019, 06:30 PM

43. Today's fresh hell

Brought to you by the morally bankrupt folks at TrumpCo

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