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Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:23 PM

Trump believes 'Western liberalism' literally means liberals on the west coast



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Trump believes ‘Western liberalism’ literally means liberals on the west coast
"You don’t want it to spread," he told the world.
Rebekah Entralgo
Jun 29, 2019, 12:50 pm



President Donald Trump embarrassed the country yet again on the international stage this past week during the G20 summit. Speaking to reporters in Osaka, Japan where the summit was held, Trump displayed a complete lack of understanding when it comes to basic history and political terminology.

When asked by The New York Times about Russian president Vladimir Putin’s comments about Western liberalism being “obsolete,” Trump took that to mean literally liberals living on the west coast of the United States.

“He’s sees what’s going on, I guess, if you look at what’s happening in Los Angeles, where it’s so sad to look, and what’s happening in San Francisco and a couple of other cities, which are run by an extraordinary group of liberal people,” Trump told the Times.

“I don’t know what they’re thinking,” he added. “But when you look at Los Angeles, when you look at San Francisco, when you look at some of the other cities — and not a lot, not a lot — but you don’t want it to spread.”


What Putin was referring to, of course, is liberalism in the Western world, which consists most of Europe and the United States. In this usage, “liberalism” refers not to progressive or leftist policies, but to individual rights, equality before the law, and democracy and consent to be governed, in contrast to a dictatorship or populism or minority rule. In recent European Union elections, however, nationalist, populist parties have been gaining influence in countries like Italy and Poland. That is what Putin meant by those comments, not what liberal politicians in California or Washington state are doing.

This was hardlyTrump’s only flub during the Saturday’s news conference. He was asked by ABC News about an exchange between former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA) in Thursday’s Democratic presidential debate over busing. “Busing” refers to the practice of transporting children outside of their geographic school districts in order to help integrate schools. After the Supreme Court struck down school segregation in 1954, some black children were sent to white schools and vice-versa, in order to integrate school systems.

Trump’s made clear he thought the term “busing” meant using a bus to commute to school.

“You know, there aren’t that many ways you’re going to get people to schools. So this is something that’s been done. In some cases, it’s been done with a hammer instead of a velvet glove. And, you know, that’s part of it [….] But it is certainly a primary method of getting people to schools.”

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Reply Trump believes 'Western liberalism' literally means liberals on the west coast (Original post)
babylonsister Jun 29 OP
samnsara Jun 29 #1
happyaccident Jun 29 #10
dalton99a Jun 29 #2
samnsara Jun 29 #3
Goodheart Jun 29 #4
Buckeyeblue Jun 29 #5
tblue37 Jun 29 #6
tanyev Jun 29 #7
Goodheart Jun 29 #8
Grasswire2 Jun 29 #9
AlexSFCA Jun 29 #11
keithbvadu2 Jun 29 #12
lunatica Jun 29 #13
TeamPooka Jun 29 #14
moondust Jun 29 #15
Igel Jun 29 #16

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:44 PM

1. god gawd trump IS the Onion

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Response to samnsara (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:07 PM

10. The Onion actually pisses me off sometimes

 

When they try to parody trump, I believe it. Have enough of the real thing, it isn't funny to fake it anymore.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:45 PM

2. Stupid beyond belief.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:46 PM

3. he just makes words up!

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Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:47 PM

4. He's as dumb as a box of rocks.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:48 PM

5. He has zero curiosity about anything except making a buck

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:54 PM

6. This deserves a

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:57 PM

7. President Dunning-Kruger

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:58 PM

8. Another sad aspect of that?

Devin Nunes, Louie Gohmert, Kevin McCarthy, Marsha Blackburn, Virginia Foxx will have no idea that he's actually off-topic.

"Good points, Mr. President!"


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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:00 PM

9. The gift that never stops giving in terms of comedy gold.

Too bad he has the nuclear codes. He's hilarious.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:48 PM

11. I bet folks living in authoritarian countries dream about LA and SF

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:16 PM

12. Refer to his 'dumb Southerner' comment about Sessions.

Refer to his 'dumb Southerner' comment about Sessions.

Trump has those 'dumb Southerners' safely in tow.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:40 PM

13. Trump accumulates ignorance

Instead of learning from his mistakes he just doubles down on them. His brain dumps knowledge. His memory is in forget mode. His brain consists of empty rental space and growing vacancies, and is covered in fuzzy spider webs of prolonged neglect and disuse.

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Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:49 PM

14. "Hey world, in case you didn't know it - I'm a total idiot!"

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Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:07 PM

16. It's unclear what usage Putin had in mind.

To be quite honest, it can't be ruled out that he sees one as the organic outgrowth of the other, so one is metonymic for the other. His examples are more in keeping with "modern liberalism"--even though that may make Putin's attack a bit more personal--but his lingo seems to suggest "classical liberalism."

Or it's a throwaway line in many respects. Putin can praise a thing one day and condemn it the next, depending on the response that he wants. Truth is malleable when talking to foes, and often his speech is less about communication propositions and more about rhetoric and reaction, an intent to divide in order to weaken.

It's a common failing among those who seek power or victory more than truth.

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