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Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:52 PM

MAGA teens attack mother for being Mexican

A Passaic County woman was attacked and knocked unconscious after complaining to a school vice principal about three students who threatened her son and told him “to go back to Mexico,” the woman’s attorney said Tuesday.

Beronica Ruiz, 35, of Passaic, was attacked June 19 at Lexington Avenue and Monroe Street as she pushed a stroller with her 1-year-old baby inside and her 12-year-old son walking with her, according to her attorney, Daniel Santiago of Clifton.

“This was a horrific and brutal attack,” Santiago told NJ Advance Media. “It takes a certain level of insanity to brutally attack a mother with a stroller and leave her for dead.”

The woman was hospitalized for two days after a 13-year-old student – one of three who had been taunting her son – “essentially jumped my client,” Santiago said.

She suffered a fractured eye socket, bruises and a bloodied eye that remained red for days.


https://www.nj.com/news/2019/06/nj-mom-beaten-unconscious-by-school-bully-who-threatened-her-son-in-hate-crime-lawyer-says.html?fbclid=IwAR12G2XwswzOwE48hJgHqCWpaXgSCCuiwwQfuKgcKG_IrZs-KnS4N8BFkGY

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Reply MAGA teens attack mother for being Mexican (Original post)
RAB910 Jun 29 OP
2naSalit Jun 29 #1
live love laugh Jun 30 #62
pandr32 Jun 29 #2
Jake Stern Jun 29 #5
pandr32 Jun 29 #7
Tipperary Jun 29 #13
yardwork Jun 29 #29
cwydro Jun 29 #34
yardwork Jun 29 #35
cwydro Jun 29 #38
JI7 Jun 29 #50
Codeine Jun 29 #3
yardwork Jun 29 #36
Jake Stern Jun 29 #4
Aristus Jun 29 #10
mr_lebowski Jun 29 #44
JI7 Jun 29 #51
Drunken Irishman Jun 29 #54
Jake Stern Jun 29 #55
Name removed Jun 29 #6
Iggo Jun 29 #8
Name removed Jun 29 #11
Iggo Jun 29 #16
Name removed Jun 29 #21
Iggo Jun 29 #24
Name removed Jun 29 #25
mr_lebowski Jun 29 #45
ripcord Jun 29 #15
Iggo Jun 29 #17
ripcord Jun 29 #19
Iggo Jun 29 #20
Name removed Jun 29 #22
Iggo Jun 29 #26
Post removed Jun 29 #28
mr_lebowski Jun 29 #47
sarisataka Jun 29 #12
ripcord Jun 29 #18
sarisataka Jun 29 #33
Everyman Jackal Jun 29 #48
Name removed Jun 29 #23
sarisataka Jun 29 #32
Name removed Jun 29 #46
mr_lebowski Jun 29 #49
sarisataka Jun 29 #57
sarisataka Jun 29 #58
DBoon Jun 29 #27
Name removed Jun 29 #31
Caliman73 Jun 29 #37
cwydro Jun 29 #40
Caliman73 Jun 30 #61
IcyPeas Jun 29 #9
IcyPeas Jun 29 #14
aeromanKC Jun 29 #30
Caliman73 Jun 29 #39
Jake Stern Jun 29 #56
Caliman73 Jun 30 #60
Codeine Jun 29 #41
cwydro Jun 29 #43
malaise Jun 29 #42
rockfordfile Jun 29 #52
muntrv Jun 29 #53
sarisataka Jun 29 #59

Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 12:54 PM

1. Some parents need to

get sued real hard.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 03:10 AM

62. Amen nt

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:00 PM

2. This is awful

I sure hope this particular school is taken to task by the district officials and there are firings. Those boys should not be let off the hook, either. I doubt much would happen from their parents--sounds like the homes are racist, right-wing environments, but I could be wrong.

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:31 PM

5. Black MAGA racist right wingers from Passaic?

Quite the combo.

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:19 PM

7. Looks like one of them was.

“This began by boys chanting that Mexicans should go back behind the wall,” he said. “What spurred them to threaten violence was [Ruiz’s son] advising that we all come from immigrants. . . . That anger triggered in this young boy enough hate and enough fury to attack a woman, an adult, with no fear.”

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:49 PM

13. Maybe those same guys from the Smollett case?

They sure do get around.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:45 PM

29. Are you suggesting that this was a fake attack?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:20 PM

34. Wait! You mean the Smollett attack was fake?

Omigod!

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Response to cwydro (Reply #34)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:25 PM

35. I don't know why you think this is funny or equivalent.

I'm honestly perplexed as to your intention here.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:29 PM

38. I'm not the one that brought it up.

Just found the comment, and then your answer to it funny.

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:00 PM

50. there ARE black and other non white bigots

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:23 PM

3. The bully was not a "MAGA teen."

Not many black teenagers are in Trump’s target demographic.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:27 PM

36. It sounds like these ones were.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 01:29 PM

4. Assumed they were white MAGAts, eh?

According to Ruiz's lawyer the teens are black.

“The 13-year-old suspect is African American, Santiago said.”


[link:https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/06/26/mother-teen-bully-assault-mexico/|]


Thought stereotyping was a bad thing, whatever happened to that?

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:39 PM

10. If you want the political support of people who might not do so otherwise,

give them someone to look down on. As long as the spotlight is on Hispanic people, it takes the target off of African-American people.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:21 PM

44. Sad but true ... and reality is, the black and hispanic populations have had bad blood for quite

awhile.

OBVIOUSLY I don't mean 'everyone' when I say this, but the two communities have been strategically put at one another's throats for quite some time by the powers that be. It's definitely a 'thing'.

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:01 PM

51. one doesn't have to be white to be MAGA. being a bigot makes them one

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:44 PM

54. The irony of your post is rich...

Or are you suggesting because they're black they couldn't ever support Trump and his rhetoric?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #54)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:30 PM

55. Apparently this one does

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Response to Name removed (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:32 PM

8. Wow.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:57 PM

16. Tell me more about the real world...

...and how having been inside gives you an understanding of three children beating up a mother walking with her two children.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:37 PM

24. Evidently.

Next time take smaller bites.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:22 PM

45. Implying one can 'understand this' is maybe not the best way to start the convo, no offense (nt)

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Response to Iggo (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:52 PM

15. You really don't understand

In jails and prisons even the Hispanics are broken up into those who are from north of the border and those who originated south of it. This is done by the inmates themselves, there is a great deal of fear in these places and people retreat into these groups for protection. Racism is the norm and practiced by every group, people who have never been there just can't comprehend. And yes I did half a year in the LA County jail system because I lost my temper when I was younger

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Response to ripcord (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:58 PM

17. I really do understand.

And this story ain't it.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #17)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:12 PM

19. It comes down to fear

Trump is making people afraid and they are splitting into groups and the groups feel they have to defend themselves. Some people are more susceptible to that fear and so they begin to hate those other groups who are makin them afraid..

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Response to ripcord (Reply #19)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:24 PM

20. There is nothing about this story...

...that having a familiarity with incarceration makes understandable, and conversely, that NOT having a familiarity with incarceration makes not understandable.

The premise of the post that I was replying to is laughable.

And so I laughed.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:42 PM

26. "You don't know what another person has been through or what they are going through."

I read that on the internet today with my open eyes.

You should, too.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:27 PM

47. Was the 13 year old attacker in the joint at some point, and I missed that part of the story?

Cause otherwise ... there's really nothing 'understandable' about this incident ... and even then, it'd be a stretch. It's a woman and baby ffs.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:46 PM

12. I do know people who have been in prison

I don't understand this.

Perhaps you can elaborate for those of us who are slow?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:08 PM

18. It is hard to understand and harder to explain

I believe it is a hold over from an earlier time, people are afraid in jail, groups will prey on individuals so you can't be an individual. The groups have been around forever, as the new fish you will be welcomed by your racial group and ignored by the others. When there are no problems individuals from these groups will intermingle but as soon as any tension or problems come up the divisions become apparent and they group up even if they aren't involved because trouble causes chaos and that is a time when old scores can be settled. Some people who truly aren't racists are forced into racist behavior for survival. I hate those places and one of my only fears is going back.

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Response to ripcord (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:05 PM

33. I do understand the concept

Of needing to join a group, and act accordingly to the mores of that group, for self preservation. That is not however an excuse for individual actions. To try to say "I did it only because my group made me" is simply a variation of the just following orders excuse.

In any case, there has been no evidence presented to indicate the assailant was pressured by any peer group. It appears he is a bully with racial issues who is willing to assault and seriously injure his victims.Yet many are willing to seek excuses for his actions once the initial assumption is shown to be incorrect.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:31 PM

48. My son is in prison in Florida convicted of attempted murder.

All things considered, I was glad to hear that a large part of his MC is also in the same prison.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:53 PM

32. I doubt a 13 year old has been in prison

So I fail to see what insight prison experience lends to this incident.

Are you saying should excuse (or at the least not condemn) a racist assault because we do not know what the other person is going through?
Should this courtesy be extended to all racists?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #46)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:33 PM

49. Hopefully the mods will forgive me, but if not, so be it ...

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Response to Name removed (Reply #46)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 08:03 PM

58. I simply condemn

All racially motivated violence. I do not seek to find excuses when the skin color of the perpetrator is inconvenient.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:42 PM

27. So we need to follow the ethics of convicted criminals in the rest of our society?

So the racial violence in a prison makes all other racial violence ethically right?

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Response to Name removed (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:28 PM

37. You don't need to have been in prison or know anyone to understand racial animosity.

Conflict between Black people and Latinos didn't start in prison. It followed them in. Black people and Latinos had conflict in the inner cities for a long time as both groups have historically been poor, lived in the urban centers, and competed for jobs against each other.

Racial animosity is learned at home, in the community, and through societal norms. Trump has amplified the tensions by telling Black people that they have it bad, that they live in hell holes and are suffering "carnage", then he scapegoats the problems onto immigrants (Latinos). The message is basically, "You Black people are low in the pecking order, but at least you aren't immigrants.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:33 PM

40. You do know there is prejudice in the black community too, right?

I worked as a volunteer in schools in South Florida some years ago.

I was horrified at hearing black kids call other black kids names because their skin was darker than theirs. Even Chris Rock references this prejudice within the black community in his routines.

Very sad, but no one race is immune from this crap.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #40)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:37 AM

61. What in my post made you think that I was not aware?

Of course there is prejudice and bigotry in EVERY racial group. Like I said in my post, the animosity between Black people and Latinos goes back a long time. I was responding to the person who implied that having been in prison or knowing someone who had been was something like a prerequisite to understanding why Black youth would attack a Mexican kid and his mother. My response was that it was not required to have that experience.

I grew up in Southern California. In my city there were Black people, Mexican/Mexican-Americans, and Filipinos. I personally got along with everyone. I had Black friends, Filipino friends, and Mexican friends. I was also very aware that there were always tensions, especially between Black kids and Mexican kids. Everyone picked on the Filipinos until they started carrying serious weapons.

There is also A LOT of prejudice within the Latino community against other Latinos. I dare you to call a Puerto Rican a Mexican, or a Mexican a Salvadorian.

Discrimination is a natural human instinct. We do tend to prefer being around people who are like us and share commonalities. The problem occurs when we start assigning value to the differences and saying that (x group is inferior because...). We can also learn to discriminate less and celebrate difference, but that takes positive exposure to outside groups and increasing experience.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:36 PM

9. I posted this before about the school:

They have three (3) anti bullying specialists at the school for 1000 students. (2 onsite and 1 from the district)

http://passaicschools.org/anti-bullying-info-school-no-20/



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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 02:51 PM

14. here is the schools response: (from twitter)

comments pretty much as expected.




:large

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 03:46 PM

30. Charge them as adults as a Hate Crime

Hate crime Attempted murder

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:32 PM

39. That won't solve anything.

Those kids need to be educated and deprogrammed from their learned hatred. They do not need to go further into a system that exacerbates it. They do not need to be yet more people of color who are taken out of society for acting out the notions of White Supremacy and racial hierarchy.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #39)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 07:31 PM

56. If he were white you'd be all for it?

Hmmm. . . . .

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #56)

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 12:24 AM

60. No. A white 13 year old is still a kid.

As bad as what was done to the mother, and the bullying, the children are acting out what they are being taught and likely have trauma in their own lives. It is a treatment issue not a punitive one. There should be accountability but it really is about trying to salvage an adolescent not just punish them. If It were a 30 year old man, I'd likely feel different regardless of the race of the assailant.

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Response to aeromanKC (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 04:59 PM

41. Except they aren't adults

and wasn’t attempted murder. It was bullying the escalated when a small adult became involved. The boys involved need to be punished, but being a reactionary is stupid no matter which side of the aisle you sit on.

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Response to Codeine (Reply #41)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:19 PM

43. Yep.

This.

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 05:09 PM

42. Thank you

King of Cons

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:12 PM

52. This is Trump's fault

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Response to RAB910 (Original post)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 06:19 PM

53. From the article...

they told the mother that the attacker “had just as much right to an education as her son" Apparently the attacker is not exercising that right.

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Response to muntrv (Reply #53)

Sat Jun 29, 2019, 08:21 PM

59. Apparently the victim has less right

to an education as he was the one removed from class after the initial bullying.

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