A picture has arrived. It could destroy Trump...picture from CNN

[Stuart G]

Warning: This shows a father and his daughter lying dead at the border.

I guess it depends on how many people see this, and understand that Trump is responsible. If these people would have been able to cross legally, (for whatever reason) and felt safe doing so, they would not be dead. Trump is responsible for setting up this situation. We all know that. Everyone knows this. This is it in my opinion. Very sad. And yes, I could be wrong. Yes, some people don't care, but most of us do care.


https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2019/06/26/cuomo-lemon-handoff-migrant-photo-ctn-vpx.cnn

[bdamomma]

1. this is should

be on billboards all over the US caption it, and let it sink in the psyche of the American society.

[DENVERPOPS]

37. Dems have

Dems have a number of Uber Donors. Maybe one of them would make it into a billboard and put one in a prominent place in the top 50 cities. Better yet a full page ad showing the picture in Every major Newspaper in the U.S. for a week. Like on page two, just pay the extra charge for specifying what page your ad will appear. Of Course, I suspect, a large number of the Billboard and Newspapers would turn the ad down since they are owned/operated by rich Republicans........

[ProudMNDemocrat]

2. Trump will BLAME Democrats and Obama instead......

I hope this photo is shown tonight at the debates when the topic turns to Immigration and the Camps.

This IS NOT who we are. We are not a COLD and DISCOMPASSIONATE country.

[Stuart G]

7. When ..."Trump blames Democrats and Obama instead" It will make him stupider.

That lie won't work for anyone..(except his very strongest supporters) But, Trump doesn't give a s**t, because he thinks that lie will work. Trump has been president for 3 years. Blaming Obama is stupid and irrelevant. This crises is Trump's doing. Everyone knows otherwise and the truth (except for those few true believers) is the truth.

true believers: Those that believe that Hitler didn't kill anyone for any reason.

[True Blue American]

62. The head of ICE

Has already contradicted Trump. He said this did not happen under Obama rules.there are no rules under Trump, utter chaos.

[MythosMaster]

3. No. The forth estate is dead

[jberryhill]

4. It will increase his support among the base

Oh, the next "thing that will destroy Trump" has arrived.

I'll clear out some space in the garage, and you can just set it next to all of the others.

We might have to get a shed if we get another shipment of the "thing that will destroy Trump."

[calimary]

30. They'll say it's deserved. "Well, they shouldn't be trying to come here.

It’s their own fault.”

Or they’ll say Obama did it.

Or they’ll blame it on the Democrats.

These pathetic deplorable weasels will come up with whatever excuse they need to, so as not to admit THEY helped make this happen.

And frankly, so did every one of us who...
1) didn’t bother to vote.
2) voted for some protest candidate.
3) believed what turned out to be Russian propaganda.
4) decided it was more important to “send a message.”
5) believed the lies and crap and character assassination of Hillary.
6) shrugged it off “‘cuz they’re all the same.”
7) thought we needed “a change.”
8) believe that trump was sent by some god.
9) thought it’d be cool (he’s a TV STAR!!!!).”
10) believed we need to “shake things up” or “blow it all up” or “burn it all down.”

Hope y’all are proud of what you’ve done. And unleashed - not only on this previously-already-great country but the entire world. We’re not great anymore. And he’s making sure that we have no friends. You seriously think Russia and Chiba are our “friends”???

[Cary]

61. I cannot tell you how much abuse was visited on me for asking people to not do those things

"We can walk and chew gum at the same time."

Yes. We can also cut off our noses to spite our face.

[mcar]

81. Don't forget those who "voted their conscience"

Because Hillary was a corporatist, Turd way warmonger.

[calimary]

91. Whenever I hear that, my thoughts go directly to - "gee, another sucker,

suckered by the Russians.”

[mcar]

92. And it continues...

[DBoon]

53. His base will say they are criminals

and they deserve this.


Always assume Trump supporters lack basic human empathy and compassion. Assume they are driven by xenophobia, aggression, and authoritarianism, meaning "brown people who break the law and try to destroy white american society deserve to die"

[LiberalLovinLug]

68. Yup. We are always looking at this, as well as Lemon and Cuomo, from a decent persons' point of view

And I think like other examples of mob mentality, it only takes a small minority of very extreme deplorables who neck deep in the cult, expecially if a part of that minority are hosts of major news networks (Fox). Then there's the effect of tagging along with the loudest, most arrogant bullies, hiding behind them because they are saying things that you'd never say, but only think. And also, many of these Trump voters are not the same as those that attend these rallies. They vote Republican out of habit. All they need is the point form accomplishments of Trump, as laid out by the likes of Hannity and Rush. Sounds good to them. And the point form evil deeds of Democrats. Sounds bad to them. Der....Republicans good, Democrats bad.

[RKP5637]

5. tRump, has probably had a portrait made of it to hang on his wall!

[sop]

17. The image will be Stephen Miller's new home screen wallpaper

[RKP5637]

21. Yep! n/t

[Saviolo]

43. Went right into his spank bank.

Ugh, he's so creepy. Those dead eyes reflecting a completely empty soul. Unbelievable that he's so close to the levers of power, completely unelected.

[bdamomma]

65. I want to see Stephen Millers

grubby hands on this. He hates immigrants he's nothing but a white nationalist or whatever he wants to be called. I hate that POS.

[radical noodle]

6. trump supporters and most conservatives

will say they shouldn't have tried to sneak into the country and they got what they deserved. They won't care.

[Stuart G]

9. Yes, someone can say that. But saying that is an obvious lie. Death is not a penalty for

trying to sneak into the country. That lie will not work with the great majority of people here.

[radical noodle]

20. I've pretty much given up

on believing there is much decency left in this country as a whole. I would like to think I'm wrong, but I think this is probably just a ho-hum moment for most folks.

We here at DU are different. We pay attention and we care.

[RKP5637]

23. Yep, sadly that is quite true. I don't think most Americans give a damn often about anything unless

it directly effects them. There is so much sh** that goes on anymore in the US it's probably hard to be concerned about everything ... especially when those running the country don't give a F and/or enable it. The US has gone IMO far downhill from the lofty ideals once held.

[virgogal]

66. It can't be very bad here

if so many people want to come.

[RKP5637]

75. Yep, plenty of places far far far worse! n/t

[stillcool]

58. I think it's impossible to know..

the real sentiment of this country, when you have outsiders influencing perception. The Right always has the microphone. Their message is bellowed out every way possible. Any infraction they feel is amplified to extreme proportions, ending up with something much different than what started it all. And we now know that they have a lot of help filling up the air space with their bullsh*t. It is so easy for me to get sucked in to the negative drama that is not real. I can't do it anymore. Realizing that all is definitely not as it seems, allows me to do life, the best I can. There is way more good, than bad.

[radical noodle]

89. I'd like to believe that

Thanks stillcool.

[jpak]

14. They are already saying this

n/t

[inwiththenew]

44. That's exactly what they are saying

I've gone to a few of their hang outs to see what they are saying and it's 100% zero fucks given.

[anarch]

83. yup. "they're ILLEGAL!!" and "they have no rights" and "they aren't PEOPLE"

that's what we're dealing with when it comes to these "conservative" bastards.

(in quotes b/c all they're trying to "conserve" is white privilege)

[deminks]

8. You are absolutely right. The migrants are set up from the beginning.

They are entrapped by Trump into trying to cross the river. If they get across, they are separated and put into #trumpcamps because they crossed illegally because they were forced to cross illegally.

[sop]

16. They are legally coming to the US seeking asylum, not trying to illegally sneak in

When they arrive here legally they are being arrested, separated from their children, often permanently, and held in truly deplorable conditions for months. Small wonder some of them try to swim across the Rio Grande instead.

[grantcart]

41. Not only that they have 1 year humanitarian visas that allows them to live and work in Mexico.

[Iliyah]

10. t-rump and the Republican party's base is

dwindling. That why they have to downright cheat, steal, suppress, lie, and have tons of conspiracies. They know it very well. That's why they refuse to get rid of t-rump. He is a distraction while they stack the courts and states in order to keep power.

Children's death will move a great many USA's citizens. We know it's wrong. We also know that the Republican party just don't care.

[TruckFump]

11. IMO, this will be the response from the Trumpistas:

[link:|

We have to accept that the powers that be do not give a damn about doing what is the right thing to do and it is up to us to get back the power to fix the fucking mess this evil morons have made.

JMHO.

WE HAVE TO SHOW THESE MONSTERS WE DO CARE!!!!!!!!!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Nothing like that will destroy Trump.

His cult followers will probably use it for their social media avatar.

[Codeine]

13. It will have zero impact on him.

I get so weary of these weekly “This will finally destroy Trump!!” posts. Voting for the Democratic candidate will get rid of him. That’s it. Full stop. And nobody who isn't already motivated to vote will be motivated by dead people at the border.

[Turin_C3PO]

46. People want so badly to believe

that some Trump voters aren’t deplorable. I don’t blame them for holding out hope but I, personally, think his base enjoys the cruelty that’s happening on the border.

[LuvNewcastle]

51. A lot of them do enjoy it.

We have a lot of sick fucks in this country. They're as evil as he is.

[Codeine]

63. They're both pleased by the cruelty

and pleased that we are so bothered by it. They get to revel in the mistreatment of non-whites while simultaneously “owning the libs.”

It all just sucks on so many different levels.

[nolabear]

15. Almost all responses here are hopeless.

This is a disturbing trend on DU.

[Stuart G]

18. I am not without hope. Let's say that the picture convinces another 20 percent

that Trump is a heartless fool. So, his support goes from 40 down to 32 percent. (that is 20 percent lower) The closer Trump gets to 20 percent the better for all of us. Nixon was at 20 when he resigned. But many think that Trump won't resign. As things move along, they could get worse. I am not without hope. I also know that many are shocked at this picture. We will see. But I do believe there will be more pictures like this.

[cwydro]

22. Not hopeless, just sadly realistic.

Like the idiot said, he could shoot someone on Fth Avenue and still be elected.

Terribly frightening thought, and it seems to be true.

[uponit7771]

28. No one is holding Red Don's enablers accountable

[anarch]

84. you're right, I have absolutely zero hope that any of fuckface's base will abandon him

no matter what.

They are lost people. It is very sad, but their brains are permanently broken, and the best we can possibly hope for is that some of them might somehow become disillusioned and decline to vote in 2020 (but that's extremely unlikely, imo; they are fanatics).

[Hoyt]

19. Would like to see a Democrat propose actions which will help ameliorate conditions that force

people to flee across the Rio Grande, etc.

[uponit7771]

29. +1, and put them in funding bills

[ooky]

71. Thank you.

Address the root cause. Sounds very sensible, wonder why our Senate leadership hasn't thought about that. Instead support a moron president who thinks he can wall it off and it will go away.

[skip fox]

24. So sad.

[bullwinkle428]

25. Trumpanzees are probably using this as their screen saver. You all

need to realize the anti-empathy sentiment that drives them is a feature, not a bug.

One-third of the country is horrified by this, one third is indifferent, and the final third is cheering this on while guzzling down Mountain Dew and Cheesy Poofs.

[BamaRefugee]

49. WRONG!

The preferred deplorable's accompaniment to Mountain Dew is Funyuns!

[BamaRefugee]

26. That picture is a Republican wet dream.

[Aristus]

27. It won't destroy Trump.

His demented worshippers will jump up and down with glee when they see that pic, and then dash to the polls to vote for him again in 2020.

I used to be ashamed that eugenics was once a progressive goal, but now I'm starting to understand why.

[Stuart G]

31. I honestly believe that some supporters will abandon Trump because of this entire problem with

the kids in cages, and this picture and the more to come. It may not be a lot from most perspectives, but if some supporters say, "This is enough of Trump for me." that would be an advancement. I know it won't be a large number, but some could abandon him. I think Trump will get much worse. I do not know when or how that will happen, but he isn't well, and acts that way. But I said earlier, I could be wrong. If his support goes down 20 percent it will be a step in the right direction.

[Aristus]

33. If anyone was going to abandon Trump, they would have done it by now.

It's like Bill Murray said to Dustin Hoffman in 'Tootsie' : "Maybe there's a morals clause in your contract. Maybe if you did something filthy or disgusting, they'd have to let you go. But I can't hink of anything filthy or disgusting that you haven't already done on your show."

[infinite_wisdom]

38. His poll numbers are not moving

He's at 42-43% and I don't think this is going to move them.

If we had a President like this in the 70's, 80's or 90's he would be in the 20's. Something ugly happened to America over the past 20 years. And I think you can draw a straight line to Rupert Murdoch and Rush Limbaugh as a cause of it.

The evangelicals have totally sold out. Their numbers are diminishing but still represent millions. They have twisted the words of Jesus so much they are never going to be able to think straight again. A dead child in a river with his dead father doesn't even get through to them at this point. If there is an emotion it is aimed at somehow. someway with some incredibly complicated pretzel logic blaming the liberals.

The only answer I can see is to vote him out in a 2020 landslide.

[Meadowoak]

55. Suburban house wives.

[zentrum]

32. Won't matter to

....the 40% that support him. I've finally come to the conclusion that they are real haters.

[Stuart G]

36. Again, I do believe that the number of supporters will go down because of this.

Let's say it goes from 40 to 36 or 35 percent. Isn't that moving in the correct direction. Further, if people change their opinion on Trump from strong supporter to say, 'neutral" that would also be an advancement. Lastly, I do believe that some will change their opinion deep down because of this, and not tell anyone that he/she no longer supports Trump any more. This will take a while, and I do believe there will be more. But we will see.

[zentrum]

56. Glad to read your thoughts...

....because lately have been falling into a state I am hugely opposd to ----hopelessness.

[bdamomma]

67. again,

they are hoping we end up "hopeless" that's what they want, they want to the masses of people to throw up their hands and say

No fucking Way, this is not normal what is happening in the US. We must fight like hell, and try to be civil during the course of this year and next year. Or should we remember this slogan Yes We Can.

[Sucha NastyWoman]

34. Some of them will no doubt say

That this is a staged picture and it never really happened

[volstork]

35. I am increasingly convinced

and dismayed that NOTHING will destroy that bastard. We live in bizarro world now.

[nolabear]

39. Valeria. Her name is Valeria.

Her grandmother--her daddy's mother-- was on MSNBC this morning, sobbing. Valeria. I'm sorry we aren't better, little girl.

[machoneman]

40. Nope! Won't hurt Heiltrump one bit. His neo-Nazi staff and camp followers rejoice to the heavens....

say they got what was coming to them and anyway it's all Obama's, Pelosi's, Schumer's and Hillary's fault.

See, that was both easy to predict ad wholly expected, eh?

Bastards!

[matt819]

42. No it won't.

Yes, the picture is horrific. It will probably win a Pulitzer.

But, no, it won't destroy Trump.

The NYT could post video of Border Patrol officers shooting immigrants and refugees for sport. It would do nothing.

Video could surface of abuse in the concentration camps - apart from the abuse done by their very existence. Children shackled. Children actually being beaten. It wouldn't destroy Trump or change a Republican's mind.

Take that photo. Another photo might surface of a white supremacist drowning a father and his daughter "yearning to be free." The RW would exult in it. Steve Bannon would say that he wears his support for those white supremacists like a badge of honor.

Not one single Republican legislator - state or federal - will utter a peep.

They are what will be called in a book in the 2030s entitled "The Good American."

[Jake Stern]

45. Quite the opposite

His minions will use that as evidence that he's keeping his promise to secure the border.

Whenever I see a Trump Humper I am reminded of the line from the Terminator:

"Listen, and understand. The Terminator is out there. I can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

Sounds just like that squad of goons.

[durablend]

73. Exactly

And the crowd will bleat "He's doing a good job...why do the libruls keep harassing him?"

[Vinca]

47. It should, but it won't. The cult believes one of two things -

either it's a staged photo made to blame Trump or it's a real photo and they deserved it because they shouldn't be coming into the country. I can only imagine how Jerry Falwell, Jr. will weigh in. It's hard to believe this has happened to our country. Sickening.

[qazplm135]

48. it won't

the only thing that would destroy him would be an economic downturn.

doesn't mean we can't beat him in 2020, but his baseline low 40s support isn't going anywhere short of a recession.

[turbinetree]

50. You and many other like you and me have empathy.......................

there are no words to share on that picture of death, of a man trying to save himself and his daughter....................

[Stuart G]

54. Yes..."No Words to share on that picture of death.a man trying to save himslf & his daughter"

[SayItLoud]

52. Time should make it and early ....."People of the year" selection...and someone should nom

for Nobel.

[shanti]

59. This is similar

to that little boy lying on the beach in north africa (?) a few years ago. Also a refugee that drowned.

[Skittles]

90. omg

reading your response, that exact picture popped in my mind....it stays with me, just like this one will

[bdamomma]

64. these migrants

just wanted a better life for their children, and they are being treated like animals, WTF, the only ones who should be in cages should be Miller and tRump and the rest of them. McConnell too.

[ooky]

69. I was listening to an asshole on Fox News today who was spinning that he hated seeing it, but

they "should come in legally".



What colossal bullshit. They are running for their lives. They try to come in legally and are either turned away or caged in inhumane conditions. How can the people who watch this channel be this stupid?

[ooky]

79. They say it for us.

Of course that's not our position but they spin lies about our positions every day. People running for their lives need to be received compassionately and respectfully. And, then we need to use our resources to address the reasons that people are fleeing to our border so they won't continue to do so. That is the situation we have, and to say that the man and his daughter lying face down in the water "should have come in legally" is just so absurdly detached from the reality of the situation that it is a blatantly unacceptable falsehood to continue to apply that old Trump campaign talking point to this humanitarian situation. When I heard him say that I wanted to jump through the TV screen and choke him.

[Runningdawg]

70. Destroy Trump? His cult have probably framed the picture and hung it over the piano by now.

[ripcord]

72. Until we can change the laws nothing will happen

Most of the people coming from Central America do not qualify for asylum, in fact less than 30% of applicants are granted asylum. If the laws aren't changed every person without documentation will be at risk until they are.

[bitterross]

76. I wish people would stop saying "This will end/destroy/etc Trump." It won't

Seriously, nothing is going to tear his cult away from him. The GOP Senators are too afraid of them to do more than have harsh words.

Nothing short of an election, where he loses by a large margin, will end him.

[llmart]

82. I don't want it to be just him that loses by a large margin.

I want the entire GOP to lose. We must get our people out to vote! We need to win the Senate too.

[The Blue Flower]

78. This country doesn't care anymore

Those children in the concentration camps are under a death sentence if the situation continues to undermine their physical and mental health. A quick death like drowning is almost more merciful.

[moondust]

85. The picture is a metaphor

for the Trump era.

[Gothmog]

86. Senator Schumer has some great comments on this tragedy

Link to tweet

[somaticexperiencing]

87. DISGUSTING! I want to see this juxtaposed with Ronald Reagan's "Shining City on a Hill" everywhere

Believe me, I'm no fan of Ronald Raygun. Believe he is a key part of the decline of American everything. But, taken from Wikipedia, these are some of the things he said. And the same aholes who dig the current administration generally dig what he had to say.

And believe me, I know they don't have the strongest cerebral cortex going, but how do you reconcile these words with that damn image!!!

From Wikipedia:

"As Ronald Reagan emphasized, America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere."[1]

And, "As Ronald Reagan said in his farewell address to the nation, 'I've spoken of the Shining City all my political life. …In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.

[triron]

88. Unfortunately no. Even news media doesn 't blame Trump. Just says Trump "blames dems".