Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:06 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
Valerie Plame, Democrat, has announced she's running for Congress
in New Mexico. It’s an open seat in the House. I saw it yesterday on MSNBC. She wants to make New Mexico the state for renewable energy. We have a lot of sunlight and a lot of wind in New Mexico, and plenty of wide open desert. That got my attention since I happen to think climate change is our most important issue.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/442888-valerie-plame-to-run-for-congress-in-new-mexico Right now my Congressman is Ben Luján but he’s running for the Senate in the next election, which means she’ll be my Congresswoman!
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lunatica | Jun 2019 | OP |
mcar | Jun 2019 | #1 | |
solara | Jun 2019 | #2 | |
Miigwech | Jun 2019 | #3 | |
themaguffin | Jun 2019 | #4 | |
Sucha NastyWoman | Jun 2019 | #5 | |
BigmanPigman | Jun 2019 | #9 | |
Wounded Bear | Jun 2019 | #6 | |
lunatica | Jun 2019 | #7 | |
corbettkroehler | Jun 2019 | #8 | |
GoCubsGo | Jun 2019 | #10 | |
DFW | Jun 2019 | #35 | |
TygrBright | Jun 2019 | #11 | |
lunatica | Jun 2019 | #12 | |
gristy | Jun 2019 | #13 | |
mitch96 | Jun 2019 | #14 | |
lunatica | Jun 2019 | #15 | |
lunatica | Jun 2019 | #16 | |
hughee99 | Jun 2019 | #19 | |
lostnfound | Jun 2019 | #17 | |
busterbrown | Jun 2019 | #18 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Jun 2019 | #21 | |
DFW | Jun 2019 | #36 | |
Turin_C3PO | Jun 2019 | #37 | |
DFW | Jun 2019 | #39 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Jun 2019 | #43 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Jun 2019 | #20 | |
comradebillyboy | Jun 2019 | #28 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Jun 2019 | #30 | |
comradebillyboy | Jun 2019 | #31 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | Jun 2019 | #34 | |
brooklynite | Jun 2019 | #22 | |
SpankMe | Jun 2019 | #23 | |
bpositive | Jun 2019 | #24 | |
BadgerMom | Jun 2019 | #25 | |
JustAnotherGen | Jun 2019 | #26 | |
Liberal In Texas | Jun 2019 | #27 | |
saidsimplesimon | Jun 2019 | #32 | |
Vegas Roller | Jun 2019 | #29 | |
duforsure | Jun 2019 | #33 | |
DFW | Jun 2019 | #38 | |
saidsimplesimon | Jun 2019 | #40 | |
DFW | Jun 2019 | #41 | |
saidsimplesimon | Jun 2019 | #42 | |
womanofthehills | Jun 2019 | #44 | |
lunatica | Jun 2019 | #45 |
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:29 PM
solara (3,782 posts)
2. Yes!
She will be great and New Mexico is getting serious about renewable energy, her timing is perfect
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:32 PM
Miigwech (3,741 posts)
3. Yes, we will take her to our side
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:36 PM
themaguffin (3,629 posts)
4. She will be great.
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:37 PM
Sucha NastyWoman (2,663 posts)
5. Saw her on TV yesterday
She was quite impressive, full of confidence. Northern New Mexico will be lucky to have her .
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Response to Sucha NastyWoman (Reply #5)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:46 PM
BigmanPigman (50,244 posts)
9. I had the same impression when I saw her.
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:42 PM
Wounded Bear (57,241 posts)
6. Sounds good!
You know she loves the country...and hates Repubs.
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #6)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:44 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
7. She gets the Constitution oath too!
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:44 PM
corbettkroehler (1,898 posts)
8. Sorry We Had To Wait This Long But Booyah! (n/t)
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:53 PM
GoCubsGo (31,819 posts)
10. I thought she announced it weeks ago.
She was on Stephanie Miller's show last month discussing it. I guess maybe it wasn't "official" then? Whatever. I'm glad she is going for it!
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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #10)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:28 PM
DFW (52,367 posts)
35. She did, and it was official
Even back then.
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 07:54 PM
TygrBright (20,454 posts)
11. Mine, too! I am PUMPED about it! n/t
Response to TygrBright (Reply #11)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:00 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
12. I don't think anyone else has more name recognition
And it’s justice!
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:03 PM
gristy (10,655 posts)
13. Ah, excellent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame
Valerie Elise Plame Wilson (née Plame, August 13, 1963), known as Valerie Plame, Valerie E. Wilson, and Valerie Plame Wilson, is a writer, spy novelist, and former operations officer who worked at the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). As the subject of the 2003 Plame affair, also known as the CIA leak scandal, Plame's identity as covert officer of the CIA was leaked to and subsequently published by Robert Novak of the Washington Post. In the aftermath of the scandal, Richard Armitage in the U.S. Department of State was identified as one source of the information, and I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted of lying to investigators. After a failed appeal, President George W. Bush commuted Libby's sentence and in 2018, President Donald Trump pardoned him. No one was formally charged with leaking the information. In collaboration with a ghostwriter, Plame wrote a memoir detailing her career and the events leading up to her resignation from the CIA. She has subsequently written and published at least two spy novels. A 2010 biographical feature film, Fair Game, was produced based on memoirs by her and her husband. In May 2019, Plame announced her intention to run for the U.S. House of Representatives as a Democrat for New Mexico's 3rd congressional district.[1] |
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:03 PM
mitch96 (12,928 posts)
14. Good!!! Karma is a bitch....
Didn't Cheney torpedo here career? Hope she pays it back...
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:06 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
15. I hope she does it by being extraordinarily successful!
Screw the Cheneys. All of them!
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #14)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:27 PM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
16. Yes, Cheney told Scooter Libby to out her identity
They were determined to go to war and made things up. They said Iraq was buying yellow cake from Niger. Valero Plame’s husband, Joe Wilson, who had been Ambassador there went and found out it wasn’t true. He published the story That it wasn’t true and that pissed Cheney off. Cheney then outed Wilson’s wife. She was working in secret to keep track of nuclear weapons Russia was selling in the Middle East after the US/USSR made a pact to cut back on Nuclear Weapons.
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Response to lunatica (Reply #16)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:04 PM
hughee99 (16,113 posts)
19. The person who outed her identity was Richard Armitage.
I haven’t seen anyone, right or left, even claim that Cheney put him up to it. It seems the two didn’t get along.
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 08:52 PM
lostnfound (15,918 posts)
17. Looking forward to THAT. 👍
She has knowledge and experience that would be beneficial to the congress and the country.
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Response to lostnfound (Reply #17)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:01 PM
busterbrown (8,515 posts)
18. Yep a True American Hero...
along with her husband.... We could really use her on our side...
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Response to busterbrown (Reply #18)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:06 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (24,998 posts)
21. Ex husband.
They are now divorced.
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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #21)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:29 PM
DFW (52,367 posts)
36. The split is fairly recent
Neither Valerie nor Joe has wanted to make a big splash of it.
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Response to DFW (Reply #36)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:32 PM
Turin_C3PO (12,078 posts)
37. My parents say they saw her
down here in Silver City, New Mexico at a Western New Mexico University function accompanying the president of WNMU. Just a little gossip for ya lol. I don’t know if they are mistaken or not.
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Response to Turin_C3PO (Reply #37)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:38 PM
DFW (52,367 posts)
39. I never ask her about that kind of thing.
My wife would have me in chains if she even knew I had made a casual inquiry! Besides, considering her former profession, Valerie would probably never tell me even if I did ask!
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Response to DFW (Reply #36)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:45 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (24,998 posts)
43. They've been divorced about two years.
And you're right, neither one made a big splash of it.
The local paper doesn't print divorce notices, and they simply weren't at all public about their split. I've lived in cities where divorces were published in the local paper, and that was always entertaining reading. |
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:05 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (24,998 posts)
20. Yes, she announced this several weeks ago.
I live in that district, and as much as I like Ms. Plame, there is, in my opinion, an even better but not as well known candidate for that seat. It's Teresa Leger Fernandez, who has lived her entire life in Northern New Mexico. She's an attorney who focusses on social justice issues. Unfortunately, she's almost invisible at this point.
I am not a fan of Ben Ray Lujan. I believe the only other person who has declared for that Senate seat is Maggie Toulouse Oliver, who has her own flaws, but I'll vote for her in the primary if no one I like better shows up. |
Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #20)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:26 PM
comradebillyboy (9,850 posts)
28. How much support does Plame have outside Santa Fe?
Has she any supporters in the Hispanic community? It's a big heavily Hispanic district.
I'm ok with Ben Ray but I do like Maggie a lot. But our primary is still a year away. A lot can happen. |
Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #28)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:41 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (24,998 posts)
30. I honestly have no idea.
And it's nearly a year too soon to have any real clue. The primary won't be until June of next year.
The only reason I'm aware of the various candidates is because I both pay careful attention to these things and I subscribe to the Santa Fe New Mexican, the local newspaper. One of my friends here mocks me for getting it, but then I'm very aware of local things he hasn't a clue about. |
Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #30)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:45 AM
comradebillyboy (9,850 posts)
31. The Santa Fe New Mexican probably has the best political coverage
of any paper in the state. Otherwise the Albuquerque outlets dominate the media and are very skimpy about covering the rest of the state. Also check out Joe Monahan's blog for breaking political stories.
http://joemonahansnewmexico.blogspot.com/ |
Response to comradebillyboy (Reply #31)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:42 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (24,998 posts)
34. Thank you for the link.
I wasn't familiar with that blog.
I like the New Mexican. Heck, if the only thing I got from the paper was the crossword puzzle and the funnies I'd consider it worthwhile. One of the things I like best is how on Tuesdays there's always an article about some local restaurant or distillery or some such. Yesterday's was about a local grocery store that stocks things from Central and South America, and how it's planning on building a much larger store on Airport Road, pretty near where I live. The kind of thing that makes this a real community. |
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:09 PM
brooklynite (89,914 posts)
22. This'll be a wide open Primary...
Rob Apodaca (D) - Political Consultant & Ex-USDA Official
Dineh Benally (D) - Navajo Tribe Agricultural Officer & Hemp Legalization Activist Gavin Kaiser (D) - Hallucinogenic Mushroom Legalization Advocate Teresa Leger (D) - Attorney & Ex-Clinton White House Fellow Jaymeson Pegue (D) - Attorney Valerie Plame (D) - Ex-CIA Officer & Author Joseph Sanchez (D) - State Rep., Rancher & Engineer Marco Serna (D) - Sante Fe County District Attorney Victor Snover (D) - Aztec Mayor, Retired Army NCO & Army JROTC Teacher They'll need to sort this out before I consider getting involved. |
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:36 PM
SpankMe (2,739 posts)
23. Good luck to her. I'll probably donate to her even though I live in California
I'm originally from NM, and I may end up there in retirement. It seems that renewable/future energy is a good fit for NM as a prime focus.
You have finance in NY, oil in TX, entertainment/agriculture/technology in CA, gambling in NV...many states have their themes and principle characteristic industries. Renewable energy sounds like something that both NM and AZ should gang up on and dominate. |
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 09:57 PM
BadgerMom (2,695 posts)
25. Aw-right! She'll be my rep!
Looking forward to it.
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:01 PM
JustAnotherGen (30,908 posts)
26. I'll give money to that campaign
She will be fantastic. Hope she wins and gets on intelligence/foreign relations committees. She has grit!
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 10:43 PM
Liberal In Texas (12,868 posts)
27. YES!
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Response to Liberal In Texas (Reply #27)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:40 AM
saidsimplesimon (7,888 posts)
32. I agree, she's brilliant and served her country well.
Response to lunatica (Original post)
Tue Jun 18, 2019, 11:31 PM
Vegas Roller (704 posts)
29. She will be fantastic
Go Valerie!!
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 01:14 PM
duforsure (11,865 posts)
33. She will make Congress much better
If NM will vote her into office, and need other smart women like her in Congress and the White House,where smart is totally. Absent at the moment. I'd give her my vote in a heartbeat if I lived there.
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:35 PM
DFW (52,367 posts)
38. I contributed to her campaign already.
I have known Valerie for well over ten years, and she is articulate, VERY smart, and completely sincere about wanting to serve the country again. I'm sure her idealism, already battered by what she went through from the Cheney White House, will suffer a few new blows. I am also confident that she is strong enough to handle the new ones. I was in touch with her before she had even made the final decision to run, and encouraged her to go for it (I'm presumably not alone there). She will make NM proud!
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Response to DFW (Reply #38)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 06:56 PM
saidsimplesimon (7,888 posts)
40. This is an endorsement I can "believe".
I'm saddened that recent news is more about her marriage than her patriotism.
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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #40)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:28 PM
DFW (52,367 posts)
41. That was a long time brewing
They had been under a constant strain ever since the outing. They tried to make it work, but things just weren't the same since. At some point you have to admit it and move on, and so they did.
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Response to DFW (Reply #41)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 07:35 PM
saidsimplesimon (7,888 posts)
42. Mine is not to ask the reason why.
I wish them both good well and continued public service.
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Response to lunatica (Original post)
Wed Jun 19, 2019, 09:15 PM
womanofthehills (7,767 posts)
44. I have solar panels on my house but ........big corps are doing the wind farms & solar farms here
Last edited Wed Jun 19, 2019, 11:34 PM - Edit history (1) and instead of keeping the solar energy for NM, they are shipping most of it out of state. The big problem is we don't have the infrastructure to ship so much solar out of state and there are huge land fights - because no one wants 150 ft. towers on their land. I know because I have small towers (90 ft) going through my land from a windmill farm in NM to bring solar to Arizona. So, my land is devalued and my view is fucked for a company to make money sending energy out of state. The infrastructure fights between landowners and corporations has been going on bigly over here. We have a community organization _ Resistiendo _ to fight all this stuff. We just got another big wind farm company out of our town, but the next town over is now fighting them.
What we want is solar for NM - not huge companies making huge bucks and ruining the landscape and views to make money. |
Response to womanofthehills (Reply #44)
Thu Jun 20, 2019, 03:14 AM
lunatica (53,410 posts)
45. I agree with you
It makes zero sense to be doing the solar farms but not benefitting from them and another state gets that benefit. If they’re here then the first to benefit should be us. Then do it for others. Renewable energy is needed everywhere, not just over there, wherever there is.
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