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Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 06:51 PM Jun 2019

Pentagon released photos to "prove" Iran attacked oil tankers

Okay, so there are some pictures of a bunch of guys on a boat near an oil tanker. It's hard to tell from those pics whether or not those guys were speaking Iranian. It's also hard to tell if they "look" Iranian.

Are we really going to let ourselves get fucked into another endless war by some bullshit put out by Trump's warmongers? Are we really going to let ourselves be distracted from Trump's problems by some bullshit pictures that could have been taken near some tanker in Houston?

Enough of this shit. The MSM should be screaming their asses off before a single body bag, comes back from Iran carrying the body of an American who died for nothing other than Donald Trump's ratings.

Let Lindsay Graham go fight this "war." Let Sarah Sanders go fight this "war." Let all of Trump's White House staff go fight this "war." But let's do everything we can to make sure that not one drop of any American service person is spilled due to this insane pile of propaganda shit.

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Cyrano

(15,031 posts)
3. Until other Dems agree, I have one question
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:15 PM
Jun 2019

Do the Trumpkins have something on Schiff?

Don't get me wrong. I think Shiff has been a man of total honor in this horrible era.

Why is he going along with this Iran crap? I have no idea.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
15. Schiff is part of the House Intelligence Committee
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:14 PM
Jun 2019

He may have seen evidence linking but most of the time they don't let the public see the evidence.

I'm the last person that wants war with Iran. Like with the Russia investigation he probably has access to information the public doesn't have.

walkingman

(7,591 posts)
4. Remember Trump is responsible for this mess. Everything was fine until he decided to pull
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 08:26 PM
Jun 2019

out of the Iranian Agreement. Most everyone else stayed in but now that Iran is in dire economic situation they are starting to violate the agreement by enriching. This puts our allies in a bad situation and once again - THIS WAS ALL BECAUSE OF TRUMP. It's no secrect that Pompeo and Bolton are war mongers and they want this war.

An so are we supposed to be proud that we are once again going into another war? Time to stand up to these morons and say enough is enough.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
5. What's the alternative explanation?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:25 PM
Jun 2019

The boat in question is clearly the same design as a common Iranian model and the uniforms are consistent. With that many people on board it clearly didn’t travel hundreds of miles and Oman/Pakistan are unlikely. Are we saying that the US Navy operated a duplicate vessel and fake uniforms and staged the whole thing but Iran showed up to rescue the crews?

former9thward

(31,963 posts)
8. False.
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:39 PM
Jun 2019

Link where those countries don't think it was Iran. Who do they think it was? The ships attacking themselves? Some countries publicly have said they are not convinced yet. But that is far different than saying they don't think it was Iran.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
10. St. Ronald of Raygun left us with these magic words...
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 10:44 PM
Jun 2019

"Trust But Verify"
(Actually, he stole it from Russia)

No harm in checking it out, is there? Might be Iran.. might not be. Is there some kind of rush here. Iran planning on moving or something?

I'm so old that I remember Kennedy showing aerial photos of the Soviet missiles to the world, and Stevenson confronting the Soviets in the UN.


struggle4progress

(118,270 posts)
12. Can tariff threats against Canada be far behind?
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:03 PM
Jun 2019

Why not start with 5% across-the-board and up by 5% every month until Canada agrees to go to war with Iran?

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
13. I want to hear from Iran -- not that I expect them to tell the truth
Mon Jun 17, 2019, 11:05 PM
Jun 2019

The intelligence could be correct but they won't let us see it but this could be WMD part II.

I'm not interested in war with Iran when Saudi Arabia is butchering people. This only benefits their interests as well as Israel. This could all blowup into World War 3.

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