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by Will Carless and Michael Corey | June 14, 2019
Hundreds of active-duty and retired law enforcement officers from across the United States are members of Confederate, anti-Islam, misogynistic or anti-government militia groups on Facebook, a Reveal investigation has found.
These cops have worked at every level of American law enforcement, from tiny, rural sheriffs departments to the largest agencies in the country, such as the Los Angeles and New York police departments. They work in jails and schools and airports, on boats and trains and in patrol cars. And, Reveal from The Center for Investigative Reporting discovered, they also read and contribute to groups such as White Lives Matter and DEATH TO ISLAM UNDERCOVER.
The groups cover a range of extremist ideologies. Some present themselves publicly as being dedicated to benign historical discussion of the Confederacy, but are replete with racism inside. Some trade in anti-Semitic and anti-immigrant memes. Some are openly Islamophobic. And almost 150 of the officers we found are involved with violent anti-government groups such as the Oath Keepers and Three Percenters.
More than 50 departments launched internal investigations after being presented with our findings, in some cases saying they would examine officers past conduct to see if their online activity mirrored their policing in real life. And some departments have taken action, with at least one officer being fired for violating department policies.
U.S. law enforcement agencies, many of which have deeply troubled histories of discrimination, have long been accused of connections between officers and extremist groups. At the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, marchers flew a Blue Lives Matter flag alongside anti-Semitic and white supremacist messages. In Portland, Oregon, police officers were found to have been texting with a far-right group that regularly hosts white supremacists and white nationalists at its rallies. A classified FBI Counterterrorism Policy Guide from April 2015, obtained by The Intercept, warned that white supremacists and other far-right groups had infiltrated American law enforcement.
It can be difficult to determine how deep or widespread these connections run. Researchers recently found numerous examples of police officers posting violent and racist content on their public Facebook pages. Reveals investigation shows for the first time that officers in agencies across the country have actively joined private hate groups, participating in the spread of extremism on Facebook.
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This probably shouldn't be a surprise to anyone, given the epidemic of "cop on minority" crimes we hear about almost daily.
Cirque du So-What
(25,914 posts)'...of connections between officers and extremist groups.'
Goes way beyond mere accusations; it's documented fact - and although it didn't begin with the Rump regime, the hateful rhetoric has encouraged bringing their activity into the open.
https://atlantablackstar.com/2017/02/10/recently-uncovered-fbi-report-reveals-long-history-white-supremacists-infiltrating-law-enforcement/
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)the following elections and news events like the Fox blondes trolling for assassins, but all over the nation in many, many thousands of spiteful bigots acting out by hurting minorities -- clerical workers, employers and supervisors, garden clubs and peewee baseball leagues, police, waitresses. Where mean people were, attacks and victimizations occurred.
And it's been continuing ever since and won't calm down until reassuring stability and promise of future wellbeing return.
So no, of course no surprise, and certainly not to people who've already lost their jobs to it, had their over-easy eggs come out deliberately fried into cardboard, paperwork disappear instead of being processed, received "special" attention from their own HOAs and/or neighbors, etc, etc, etc. And of course been at increased risk of persecution and even physical harm from bad people misusing the power of the state.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)these racist cop groups (some also include racist cop groupies ) have been around forever .
Socializing and in print before the Internet caused a gain and reach to more . Trumps election has certainly made them happy to boldly be out
Plus although there are badge only sites existing , there are plenty of what I will call procop-pro racist sites now too where groupies and family join in
Unfortunately when looking on the internet for some very local neighborhood incident not covered by city wide news I have come across them . Pure hate
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)The internet has been a wonderful gift to people with views folk at home will shut them down for. Racist cops aren't safe on it, but still more than they should be. Their higher-ups should be good at picking out those who might be a problem and monitoring likely sites for signs. Or installing software to do it.
mopinko
(70,067 posts)what a cess pool. i hope lightfoot has her finger on it.
if she is smart, she will make a few examples, and fast.
fire the top 10 on the list of settlements for brutality.
and yeah, hunt down the racists.
my ex married a chi cop who just retired. she says, yes, it is just a few bad apples, everyone looks the other way. BUT, if you dont go along to get along you will be like her- retired after 20 years a patrolman.
i had a real eye opener a while back when i ran into a cop in 2 diff settings-
first, he arrested the guy that broke into my house.
but they had already picked him up, basically profiled, before they got the report. he had my sons backpack, w his wallet in it.
when we went to court, they did a very hinky little dance to suppress that inconvenient fact. he talked to us ahead of time to make sure we "had our story straight". guy was convicted.
i was not asked to testify.
second, my son gets picked up for weed in a bogus bust.
i go to the station, and there he is.
he says, oh, let me go check for you.
comes back and says- so sorry. too late. he was already booked. if he hadnt been, i could have sprung him.
yup, go along, get along.
but trash a few more bad apples, and maybe you open up a lane for the good ones.
MasterofBiscuits
(51 posts)If you're poor powerless in this society, the police are not your friend.
Police are a vestige of slavery times. They exist to protect the rights and privileges of property and wealth.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)at best, relation to reality. Even most poor and powerless people, though too often victimized by police, are far more often helped and far, far, far better off for their existence. High crime in low-income neighborhoods results from being under policed -- they need more, not less. Neighborhoods that can organize to vote their power usually get it too.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)More often than not those neighborhoods are way over policed with stop and frisk. You won't see stop and frisk in a rich suburb.
BPDs legacy of zero tolerance enforcement continues to drive its policing in certain
Baltimore neighborhoods and leads to unconstitutional stops, searches, and arrests. Many BPD
supervisors instruct officers to make frequent stops and arrestseven for minor offenses and with
minimal or no suspicionwithout sufficient consideration of whether this enforcement strategy
promotes public safety and community trust or conforms to constitutional standards. These
instructions, coupled with minimal supervision and accountability for misconduct, lead to
constitutional violations.
Stops. BPD officers recorded over 300,000 pedestrian stops from January 2010May
2015, and the true number of BPDs stops during this period is likely far higher due to
under-reporting. These stops are concentrated in predominantly African-American
neighborhoods and often lack reasonable suspicion.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/file/883296/download
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)a lot of pedestrian traffic, usually business districts with lots of middle class people living there or coming in to work or shop. Those are heavily policed.
I grew up in a lot of poor places, highly urban "downtowns," suburban and rural, and my work took me often into many poor areas as an adult, so I've had a lot of exposure to them. While driving around mostly residential neighborhoods (often described as "food deserts" in journals deploring from a distance) I was actually hardly more likely to see a police car than a market. And certainly not a pharmacy, bank, realtor, clothing shop, hardware store, usable park, etc.
Those residentail neighborhoods are actually full of people trying to raise their children according to the American dream. Being unemployed wasn't the reason a resident I remember didn't call the police to stop miscreants from cutting his fence to take shortcuts through his yard, it was because it was so underpoliced that criminals controlled, not the police, and everyone knew it.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Many other police departments suffer similar issues. You can choose to read it and it lays out countless examples of over & unconstitutional policing in low income high crime neighborhoods.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Bet you anything that "over" policing as you imagine it results from crime in those neighborhoods interfering with the profits of business and willingness to locate near them, values of real estate, and comfort of middle class residents and/or commuters, whether in them or just too close for economic comfort. It's not a sincere effort to fix the local problems, just as making it illegal for homeless people to be seen on the streets is not a sincere effort to solve the problem of homelessness.
Understaffed police departments are the main reason for underpolicing. That results from voters and taxpayers, generally not poor, being unwilling to pay for proper policing of neighborhoods they don't feel affected by, and of course by failure of officials to do their job conscientiously.
There are lots of reasons for this, of course, but high crime in low-income neighborhoods has always been taken as proof of conservative views about who's worthy and who isn't, a toxic phony "validation" of the pervasive bigotry against all "poor" people, of all races. Of course those people wouldn't really want the problem solved even if they understood crime wasn't intrinsic to and inseparable from lower income people themselves or even if they understood that a majority of people in even the poorest neighborhoods work -- which they refuse to, and they certainly aren't willing to pay for it if they can help it.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)BPD ENGAGES IN A PATTERN OR PRACTICE OF CONDUCT
THAT VIOLATES THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND
LAWS, AND CONDUCT THAT RAISES SERIOUS CONCERNS
https://www.justice.gov/crt/file/883296/download
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)JonLP24
(29,322 posts)BPDs legacy of zero tolerance enforcement continues to drive its policing in certain
Baltimore neighborhoods and leads to unconstitutional stops, searches, and arrests. Many BPD
supervisors instruct officers to make frequent stops and arrestseven for minor offenses and with
minimal or no suspicionwithout sufficient consideration of whether this enforcement strategy
promotes public safety and community trust or conforms to constitutional standards. These
instructions, coupled with minimal supervision and accountability for misconduct, lead to
constitutional violations.
Stops. BPD officers recorded over 300,000 pedestrian stops from January 2010May
2015, and the true number of BPDs stops during this period is likely far higher due to
under-reporting. These stops are concentrated in predominantly African-American
neighborhoods and often lack reasonable suspicion.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/file/883296/download