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Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:44 PM

What the F*** is going on there America?

Trump Just Invited Impeachment Proceedings

June 12, 2019 at 10:14 pm EDT†By†Taegan Goddard†18 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2019/06/12/trump-just-invited-impeachment-proceedings/

"SNIP....

George Conway and Neil Katyal: ďMuch ink has been spilled about whether President Trump committed a criminal and impeachable offense by obstructing justice. That question deserves extensive debate, but another critical question ó the ultimate question, really ó is not whether he committed a crime but whether he is even fit for office in the first place. And that question ó the heart of an impeachment inquiry ó turns upon whether the president abuses his power and demonstrates an unfitness to serve under the defining principles of our Constitution.Ē

ďOn Tuesday, Trump gave us direct evidence of his contempt toward the most foundational precept of our democracy ó that no person, not even the president, is above the law. He†filed a brief†in the nationís second-most-important court that takes the position that Congress cannot investigate the president, except possibly in impeachment proceedings. Itís a spectacularly anti-constitutional brief, and anyone who harbors such attitudes toward our Constitutionís architecture is not fit for office. Trumpís brief is nothing if not an invitation to commencing impeachment proceedings that, for reasons set out in the Mueller report, should have already commenced.Ē

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Reply What the F*** is going on there America? (Original post)
applegrove Jun 12 OP
applegrove Jun 12 #1
AlexSFCA Jun 12 #3
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 12 #8
AlexSFCA Jun 12 #9
Proud Liberal Dem Jun 12 #10
GReedDiamond Jun 12 #19
Maraya1969 Jun 12 #11
anarch Jun 12 #12
AlexSFCA Jun 12 #13
Maraya1969 Jun 12 #14
global1 Jun 12 #17
SergeStorms Jun 13 #24
Maraya1969 Jun 13 #27
Funtatlaguy Jun 12 #4
GoCubsGo Jun 12 #18
pangaia Jun 12 #2
AlexSFCA Jun 12 #5
live love laugh Jun 13 #23
ecstatic Jun 12 #6
AlexSFCA Jun 12 #7
Initech Jun 12 #15
applegrove Jun 12 #16
Initech Jun 13 #22
MFGsunny Jun 13 #26
sop Jun 12 #20
uponit7771 Jun 13 #25
watoos Jun 13 #21
mahina Jun 13 #28

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:45 PM

1. Why does he want to be impeached?

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:48 PM

3. to get acquitted by the senate

and easily win reelection. It is his primary path to victory.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:57 PM

8. I'd like to know how that would work

If we don't at least try to impeach him, he can stake an ever greater claim of "exoneration." If he is impeached but "acquitted" by a partisan Republican Senate, it's not nearly as powerful IMHO. Even worse if some Republicans vote to convict in the Senate and/or vote for AOI in the House. I don't think that he has smooth path to re-election in 2020 regardless, however. The Democratic base is more and more energized to vote against him IMHO.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:58 PM

9. who is in charge of election systems in states he must win?

Come on, DU. We canít be that naive.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:01 PM

10. Then you're basically saying that we're screwed no matter what?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:47 PM

19. I'd like to jump in here to say...

..."we're screwed no matter what" if the electoral process is compromised again, as has become a kind of "thing" over the last two decades.

Trump misAdmin/republic party political hacks have blocked the cyberhacking protections that were supposed to be in place, if I am not mistaken.

I will vote for whoever the Dem nominee is - OF COURSE! - but I do not have full faith in the security/integrity of our elections systems.

Especially now that today, Preznit Anus Mouth, said that he would, again, be happy to benefit from outside interference from foreign gubmints during his 2020 "re-election" campaign.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:13 PM

11. The GOP is losing credibility. How do you think the average American will regard any

GOP senator who votes for acquittal after all the testimony is openly discussed during the impeachment trials?

The trials are what will ruin this bastard. Televised trials on the actual details of crimes committed by this whore of a president.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:17 PM

12. I wish people wouldn't call him that

the P-word I mean, not "whore". He certainly is a whore, in the wider sense of the word...not to deride sex workers, for whom I have much greater respect than I do for the idiot mob-stooge who is occupying the White House.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:19 PM

13. they won't televise on faux news

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:31 PM

14. Impeachment investigations in the House would be reported on in local news.

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Response to AlexSFCA (Reply #13)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:40 PM

17. I Would Hope That The Impeachment Proceedings Would Be Televised....

in total on Network TV for all Americans to see. I believe I watched the Clinton impeachment on Network TV.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 01:44 AM

24. My thoughts exactly.

I've been demanding this for months now. At least get those GOP Senators on the congressional record as supporting the criminal Trump administration. Then they can go back to their districts and explain why they support criminal enterprise in the highest office in the land! I think the criminals and those abetting criminals in the GOP controlled Senate are in for a RUDE awakening in 2020. I actually think democrats can take back the Senate - as well as the White House - while still retaining the House of Representatives. The only way that can happen though is if we expose the GOP for the criminals and abettors they are.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #24)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:09 AM

27. THIS!

The only way that can happen though is if we expose the GOP for the criminals and abettors they are."

Right now most people have no idea how corrupts the GOP is. Putting a bunch of them through televised in depth questioning as to what they have really been doing for the last few years will make a big impact on how they are viewed by the people who, right now, have no idea that they have done any wrong.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:49 PM

4. To play victim/martyr. Fund raise. Incite his base.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:44 PM

18. Yep. Playing the victim is his favorite pasttime after stealing other peoples' money.

It's a twofer.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:47 PM

2. He is not smart enough to think of half this stuff.

As pure evil as he is, he is also being led by the nose....

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Response to pangaia (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:52 PM

5. but also don't think he is stupid

he is evil, there is a difference. What he does has been working for him quite well. Any other person would be done by now with 1/10 the shit trump pulled off. He managed to manipulate the media like no one else every step of the way. He is willing to make a fool of himself to get the media spinning. Media loves it - rich content and record ratings. The media now needs trump like a drug, theyíll do anything to help trump win.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:16 AM

23. You are absolutely right. Who's behind the curtain I wonder. nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:53 PM

6. What's going on is he is 100% sure that Nancy will never impeach him

I really hope that's not true and that there are limits (and the limit was passed today). If trump and the rethugs start to truly believe that democrats will never act, we're fucked. Seriously.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 10:55 PM

7. not even close

If he goes outside WH now and randomly shoot someone to death - there will be no impeachment either, nor would he lose any supporters including GOP in congress. He got SC and once he replaces RGB with gorsuch 3.0, the power is solidified for decades. What he said today is no more extreme than toddlers in cages. Mueller said you canít indite a sitting president - thatís all courts need to know to block investigations cause if you canít indict then any investigation serves only political purpose. Thatís legal to you.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:34 PM

15. He's trying to bait the Dems and get them hooked on the prospect.

Don't let them. Trump is the world's shittiest drug dealer. Don't take the bait!!!

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Response to Initech (Reply #15)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:37 PM

16. That's my take. That he wants to be impeached now with the evidence the

democrats have now. Kind of implies there is more evidence Trump is hiding in one of his organizations or taxes or one of the things currently under investigation. Steady as she goes democrats. Steady as she goes.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:13 AM

22. Oh he's such a petty bully.

He's trying to bait the dems into telling the principal. Go on, do it. Or I will beat you up after class. Do it.

Don't take the bait.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #16)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 03:11 AM

26. Agree with you 100%.



Dumpster KNOWS the 1,000,000's of skunks in his woodpile!

GET ALL THE DIRTY LAUNDRY OUT ON THE LINE first.

don't take the cheap bait ....

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:54 PM

20. To put it behind him as quickly as possible

It will all go down the memory hole by the end of the year.

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Response to sop (Reply #20)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 02:42 AM

25. THIS !!!! A long Dawn out process is impeachment won't help Republicans

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 12:04 AM

21. According to someone who spent time with Trump

writing his book, Trump would be devastated if he were impeached. Trump is not a strong person he needs constant praise and adoration, that's why he brought his family into the White House.

If Trump were impeached he would have a nervous breakdown.

We all know that Trump constantly lies, so why do some believe him when he says he wants to be impeached?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Thu Jun 13, 2019, 04:46 AM

28. We are in a four alarm fire. This is a crisis that makes

Every other look manageable, with a backdrop of catastrophic climate change bearing down and a president who has stopped all work to address it.

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