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Tue Jun 11, 2019, 09:08 AM

Press: How Speaker Pelosi trumped Trump

I refuse to use trumpys nickname for our Speaker.



Press: How 'Nervous Nancy' trumped Trump



https://thehill.com/opinion/447813-press-how-nervous-nancy-trumped-trump

By Bill Press, Opinion Contributor - 06/10/19 07:14 PM EDT



Donald Trump is not a nice man. He’s a mean, obnoxious bully. For his entire career, first as a phony businessman, and now as a phony president, he’s persevered by beating, berating, degrading, humiliating and personally insulting anyone who dared challenge him.

That’s how he made it in the shady world of Manhattan real estate. And that’s how he bulldozed his way through the 2016 Republican primary. So what if there were 16 more seasoned Republican politicians running against him? Despite having zero political experience himself, he destroyed them one by one with his nasty nicknames: “Lyin’ Ted,” “Little Marco” and “Low-Energy Jeb,” among others.

Once in office, Trump belittled Republican leaders of Congress the same. Line ’em up and beat ’em up: Mitch McConnell, John Cornyn, Bob Corker, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan, Kevin McCarthy, Steve Scalise. They once represented a totally different Republican Party. But Trump battered them so badly they flipped from never-Trumpers to Trump acolytes.

How fitting in this “Me Too” era, then, that after taking down all those cowardly men one by one, it took a woman to finally put Trump in his place. Trump met his match when he met Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.)...........................................................................



It started at an Oval Office meeting on the border wall between Trump, Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) .............................................................Score: Pelosi 1, Trump 0.

Their sparring continued at the State of the Union............................................... Score: Pelosi 2, Trump 0.

Next came the double showdown over infrastructure: one meeting where Trump promised $2 trillion, followed by a second ..................................................................... Score: Pelosi 3, Trump 0.

Clearly obsessed by his inability to get the best of Pelosi, Trump chose the Normandy American Cemetery on the 75th Anniversary of D-Day on which to attack her again, blaming her for criticizing him while he was on foreign soil. Even though he’d used his time on foreign soil to call Schumer a “creep,” Robert Mueller a “fool,” the mayor of London a “stone cold loser,” and Pelosi a “nasty, vindictive, horrible person.” For her part, Pelosi, also in Normandy, respecting the sacred ground they were on, refused to respond. Score: Pelosi 4, Trump 0................................................

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 09:18 AM

1. I still do not understand why so many people are bamboozled by Trump

It would be so easy to publicly humiliate him. He's so hyper-sensitive about his image that simply calling him fat and bald should be enough. Say he's a lying incompetent con man and asshole would work too. I predict that once his financial records are exposed, some of those GOP guys might actually find enough courage to call him out. But given that they are all so F'ing corrupt, maybe not.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:12 AM

2. Baffling, isn't it?

And also worrisome. Are this many of my fellow citizens this stupid? Or so blinded by hatred and/or fear that they can't see what is so obvious-

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Response to MBS (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:56 AM

4. Four Decades of Nazi-esque propaganda

40% of us have had our ENTIRE BELIEF SYSTEMS re-programmed by the morbidly rich funded right wing media.

And, it's legal to knowingly lie on your "news" broadcast. If you want non-bullshit news, you, the news consumer, has to seek it out all on your own and make your own judgements if it's true or not.

I encounter so many people on social media that have very deep seated PREJUDICE against liberal and Democrats. The BIG LIE has been repeated so much over so many decades they don't know why they hate, it just seems to them like it has always been thus, but these forces in America are very recent, historically.

They (we?) are being played and they (we?) don't even know it.

-90% Jimmy

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:32 AM

8. I don't think it's so recent

I think it goes back to the McCarthy era, 75 years ago, when liberals and unions were demonized as socialist "fellow-travelers" with communism.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:51 AM

10. I Have Often Called Trump

A blend of the worst of McCarthy and Nixon. Except they didn't go far enough in Trump's view.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:21 PM

20. it is time to put dipshit on ignore

This is reality show except it IS reality and asswipe is the ring leader. He has turned all of us into clowns in his show
His diehard fans are laughing all the way to an early grave. This country's democracy is a joke to the right at this time. Time to turn off the TV, read a fiction novel (try Terry Pratchett) and never speak of him, read of him or hear of him again. He thrives on outrage and messing with people. We are being messed with.
I will begin now.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 04:07 PM

19. Yes it does go back that far and the emotions

of fear and loathing of my parents WW2 generation is probably comparable to those of us with adequate critical thinking skills flipping channels and watching Fox prime time hate propaganda for five minutes.

My impression is that rabid authoritarian conservatives was discredited from the 60's until Reagan. Then the crony capitalists invented trickle down economics and it's been a struggle ever since.

And all that agenda driven corporate propaganda is just anti-democracy, anti-honorable I'm so selfish I want to be the only one with a lavish standard of living because I'm rich so that makes me smart. and a predator and a sociopath and a person that should be shunned from all society.

-90% Jimmy

spell corrected. the bad grammar is stream of unconciousness creative writing. now off to check today's white house crimes against the Constitution.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 10:29 AM

3. National Enquirer

He knows their secrets

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Response to vlyons (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:04 AM

5. One of his book authors,

stated that if Trump were impeached he would be devastated. The tale that Trump welcomes impeachment is a lie.

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Response to watoos (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:06 AM

6. It would kill him.

That’s why we need to impeach him; to humiliate him AND to have on the historical record that we as Democrats didn’t let criminal behavior go unanswered.

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Response to watoos (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:10 AM

7. Just like AG Barr caves when faced with a Contempt of Congress charge. Fragile fking egos.

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Response to OMGWTF (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 11:37 AM

9. That one was surprising to me.

Oh no! Don’t hold me in contempt!

I seriously didn’t think he’d care. I thought he’d scoff and sneer at it and flitch it off like some petty little insult from a bunch of powerless low-ranking nobodies.

But surprise! He folded!

Evidently this is his weakness. And It appears to be a MUCH bigger tender spot than we thought.

I seriously thought he didn’t give a shit, and wasn’t gonna give an inch.

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Response to calimary (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:15 PM

11. A contempt of Congress charge seems like a pretty quick way to get yourself disbarred

And that's probably why he doesn't want one...
Just spitballing

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Response to Volaris (Reply #11)

Wed Jun 12, 2019, 11:14 AM

21. Well, in that case, bring it on!!!

Would that make trump the first so-called “pResident” to have a disbarred attorney general running the Justice Department?

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Response to vlyons (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:16 PM

12. Add "complicit" to "But given that they are all so F'ing corrupt"

On an individual level they have shown themselves to be venal and without decency.

On the national level, they are clearly taking orders to undermine democracy in the US. And around the world.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:13 PM

17. Cult Nuts

The story from the great Chris Hedges:

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/06/10/cult-trump

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:16 PM

13. One thing abrasive cynical narcissists cannot stand is...

to be disregarded. Trump is an attention whore, complimented with bugle mouth, bright ties, fluorescent hair, big Reagan-style shoulder pads and distractive hand gestures.

I notice that Speaker Pelosi does not usually respond in-kind to his insults, but instead disregards him for a time and then throws a fresh, not recently used dart his way - the difference being that hers are based on truth. If she does respond quickly, she throws out fresh meat to the media as a deflection and a fresh topic is far more likely to gain a media headline. Trump uses this method himself.

Nancy's superior skill is in knowing how to use the media to her advantage, often using the "first out of the gate" concept where whoever slings the dart first gets the point and follow-up responses on the same topic rarely are noticed with much attention.

This is one of the secrets to getting under his skin. She stays cool and beats him with dignity at his own game....

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 12:45 PM

15. he will get use to being ignored in the future

Once Trump is out of office (regardless of how that comes about) he will be a pariah. No one in either politics or finance will be caught dead in his company. Money people will not touch him because Trump has not actually made any money in 15-20 years, and money laundering isn't viable with a financial spotlight turned on. The real estate con is over. Politically the man will be toxic on both the national and international stage. And even his purported pals like Duterte, Erdogan, MBS and Kim will have no use for him once he is no longer wearing the mantle. The only people left willing to be in his presence will be the double digit cretins wearing the MAGA hats .. and Donald Trump has nothing but contempt and actually despises these bottom feeders. Perhaps his family will rally around, but .. given the way he has treated them over the years, it seems more likely that they will be "finding other things to do." It's going to be a very dark time for the Donald. But one has to speculate that it's been a very long time since DT has really had any friends anyway. I suspect a cover will be thrown over the birdcage fairly quickly following an exit from the oval office. We probably won't hear much .. and there probably won't be much to hear.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 01:04 PM

16. Good points. It will be like watching a balloon deflate.

If we can't put him in jail, I suspect he will go on to be a right-wing media darling trumpeting golf and politics until they get tired of him and he retires.

The bad news is that he has children just like him.....

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 11, 2019, 02:35 PM

18. I am hoping we hear nothing from him once he is out of the Oval Office (except I would love

to hear any legal problems he has. te he ).

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