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Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:15 PM

is climate change humanity's #1 crisis?

before you answer, consider that the codes which launch mutually assured destruction are controlled by trump.

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Reply is climate change humanity's #1 crisis? (Original post)
rampartc Jun 7 OP
stonecutter357 Jun 7 #1
ProudLib72 Jun 7 #2
PETRUS Jun 7 #3
Celerity Jun 7 #4
Brawndo Jun 7 #5
mr_lebowski Jun 7 #6
smirkymonkey Jun 7 #10
hunter Jun 7 #7
Triloon Jun 7 #8
bronxiteforever Jun 7 #9
ananda Jun 7 #11
lpbk2713 Jun 7 #12

Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:16 PM

1. is climate change humanity's #1 crisis? NO .....

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:18 PM

2. Long term, yes. Short term, no

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:23 PM

3. Extensive use of WMD is a possibility; climate change is a certainty. nt

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Response to PETRUS (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:24 PM

4. +10000

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:25 PM

5. Obstacles to taking meaningful action to combat climate change are the #1 crisis

So, if we want to do anything effective about it, we must remove deniers from power, that's step #1.

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:30 PM

6. A global economy that's 100% reliant on continual growth

Along with it's corollary: massive human overpopulation of the planet ... with continued growth thereof needed to support the global economy ... is arguably the #1 crisis.

Climate Change can't be dealt with effectively until the above issues ... change.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:54 PM

10. +1000

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:36 PM

7. World War III, nuclear bombs going off everywhere, would be one way of dealing with the problem.

But probably not the best way.

So would a meteor strike of the sort that wiped out the dinosaurs.

We shall see.

Humanity may suffer even worse. It's pretty easy to predict a future where hundreds of millions of people die horribly every year from the consequences of climate change, with civilization making no progress, century after grinding century, thousands of years of misery.

Or we could leave fossil fuels in the ground, where they belong.

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:38 PM

8. Yes, it is #1,

And has been so, for many years.

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:48 PM

9. Yes. Extinction Level Event

It is an environmental crisis. Climate change is a large part but there are other aspects too.

Insect populations are falling. How do you pollinate plants without bees? The earths apex predators are going as well as large mammals. The ocean temperature rise creates a cascade impact and hastens ice melting. Cities under water, populations looking for refuge. If the Middle East refugees created such political instability in Europe, imagine climate refugees and they will be more numerous than the ME migrants. Can we grow enough food? The populations of ocean fish are being pushed to extinction. It is happening much faster than anyone expected. Plastics are everywhere, even at Challenger depth. The list is endless.

What does the military think about climate change?

Threat Multiplier
In 2007, several retired admirals and generals noted that climate change could contribute to repeated natural and humanitarian disasters. This would cause political instability as governments face demands that are beyond their ability to respond. Climate change acts as a “threat multiplier.” Meaning that climate change amplifies instability in volatile spots around the world. The U.S. military has cause to be concerned because it could be drawn into these hot spots.

Seven years later, in its 2014 Quadrennial Defense Review, the Defense Department affirmed the view that climate change exacerbates political instability, burdens economies, increases resource competition, and stretches government capacity to respond. This, in turn, creates conditions that are ripe for terrorist activity and other violent conflicts.

https://outrider.org/climate-change/articles/climate-change-national-security-threat/
Climate change may make the use of nuclear weapons more likely.

I believe David Attenborough

“Leaders of the world you must lead,” he added. “The continuation of our civilizations and the natural world on which we depend is in your hands.”

Calling climate change “a man-made disaster of global scale,” Attenborough added, “if we don’t take action, the collapse of our civilizations and the extinction of much of the natural world is on the horizon.”

http://fortune.com/2018/12/03/david-attenborough-climate-change-warning/



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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 05:58 PM

11. Yes

No question.

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Response to rampartc (Original post)

Fri Jun 7, 2019, 06:03 PM

12. Willful ignorance will be the end of us.



One way or another almost all our problems can be blamed on stupidity.

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