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Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:33 AM

"Please don't let him be black ... Please don't let him be black ... Please don't let him be black!"

This prayer after every mass shooting or terrorist attack is one of the realities of being black in America.

And so is that sick, sinking feeling on those rare occasions when our prayer isn't answered.

Damn!
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Reply "Please don't let him be black ... Please don't let him be black ... Please don't let him be black!" (Original post)
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 OP
lunatica Jun 2019 #1
Jeffersons Ghost Jun 2019 #12
Different Drummer Jun 2019 #27
cyndensco Jun 2019 #30
lunatica Jun 2019 #31
uponit7771 Jun 2019 #2
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jun 2019 #3
PCIntern Jun 2019 #4
Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #6
underpants Jun 2019 #9
malaise Jun 2019 #10
misanthrope Jun 2019 #44
cwydro Jun 2019 #5
pintobean Jun 2019 #11
Tipperary Jun 2019 #25
Baitball Blogger Jun 2019 #7
ecstatic Jun 2019 #17
customerserviceguy Jun 2019 #19
dsc Jun 2019 #8
Hortensis Jun 2019 #21
pintobean Jun 2019 #13
sheshe2 Jun 2019 #15
Hortensis Jun 2019 #22
pintobean Jun 2019 #23
Hortensis Jun 2019 #24
Hoyt Jun 2019 #26
pintobean Jun 2019 #32
Hoyt Jun 2019 #35
pintobean Jun 2019 #37
Hoyt Jun 2019 #39
pintobean Jun 2019 #40
pintobean Jun 2019 #45
SMC22307 Jun 2019 #42
sheshe2 Jun 2019 #14
Iggo Jun 2019 #16
Marcuse Jun 2019 #18
Me. Jun 2019 #20
LakeArenal Jun 2019 #28
sop Jun 2019 #29
lunatica Jun 2019 #33
sop Jun 2019 #38
Afromania Jun 2019 #34
StarfishSaver Jun 2019 #36
RhodeIslandOne Jun 2019 #41
AnnieBW Jun 2019 #43
Tipperary Jun 2019 #46

Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:40 AM

1. I'm sorry you feel that burden

It’s not fair.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:39 AM

12. I thought you were writing about our next president "Please" etc...

Please let HER be black!

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Response to Jeffersons Ghost (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:13 PM

27. "Please let HER be black!"

I'd be okay with that. Watching millions of RWNJ heads explode would be fun!

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Response to lunatica (Reply #1)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:44 PM

30. I read your reply hours ago and have thought about it several times since.

Like StarfishSaver, I am mortified when it is a black person that has committed a heinous crime. The crime itself is bad enough, but I worry my community will suffer because of it....a cop might become MORE trigger-happy, BBQ Bettys and Permit Pattys might feel MORE emboldened to report black folk, etc.

It IS a burden being guilty for the sins of our brothers. It IS unfair. Thank you for getting it.

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Response to cyndensco (Reply #30)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:58 PM

31. Your worries are well founded

And Trump has made it so much worse by giving this kind of everyday racists permission to come out into the open. He enables them. I do get it, and I’m truly sorry to see it happening.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 04:30 AM

2. Shhhhhhhhhhit

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:48 AM

3. That comment reminded me of an SNL skit, "Meet Your Second Wife"

The relevant part starts at 3:25

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:55 AM

4. OMG! That is an effing riot!

Thanks...I sent it around

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 08:32 AM

9. That was funny

I thought the prize would be a trip for two somewhere... but the kayak is funny.

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:09 AM

10. Hilarious

Thanks for this

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #3)

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:20 AM

44. That is truly hilarious!

I'd never seen it and have passed it on just in the last few minutes. One of my bosses pulled a stunt like that, marrying one of his old employees who is closer to the age of his kids than him. I'd love to send it to him but it would cost me my job.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:10 AM

5. We always know it's a him.

Of that we can be sure.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:57 PM

25. Someone on CNN today said the FBI stats say 96% of these shooters are male.

I am thinking the cases with women are the proverbial “exceptions that prove the rule.”

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:30 AM

7. I just got an ugly thought. What if this is the tipping point that will bring on gun regulation?

White men shooting up people is seen as an acceptable negative byproduct of freedom. But a black man doing the same thing? Unthinkable.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 11:17 AM

17. Doubt it. The only way they'd become concerned is

if the frequency increased and the attacks were associated with militia activity. That's when they'd panic. Racist right-wing white militias are no big deal, according to trump's justice department... But black militias would be a full blown emergency.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:58 PM

19. This is Virginia

It won't happen. Sure, lots of progressives in the VA suburbs of DC, and a few pockets here and there around college towns, but the rest of the state won't go for it.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 08:23 AM

8. I felt the same way when the man shot a security guard and the Family Research Council

please don't let him be gay. Unfortunately he was.

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Response to dsc (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:09 PM

21. Every time a new political scandal is reported.

Please don't let the predator/extortionist, etc., be a Democrat. Actually, it fairly seldom is, far more likely to be a Republican. In fact, last time I remember checking a guilty Democrat for background, he turned out to be a blue dog from a conservative district.

We all know the feeling, Starfish, not that I ever bother hoping a mass killer won't be a white man since it usually is.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:44 AM

13. DU sure has changed

People are yucking it up in a mass shooting thread.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:38 AM

15. Unbelievable.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 02:16 PM

22. Sure, Pinto, and you're weeping over a detention center

so overcrammed that exhausted refugees can't sit down and are even standing on the toilet. I know, this is just your way of handling your grief over what's happening while we tippy-tap here.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #22)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:43 PM

23. Okay...

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Response to pintobean (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 05:54 PM

24. :) I'm not exempting myself. There's too much

to care about, and nature gave people resilient natures for a reason. Sure, there's a line to keep in mind, but it's worthwhile to remember that laughing helps people keep up courage and spirit. It's not only about callousness.

I'm afraid that story about the extreme overcrowding in some of the border jails got under my skin. It should not be possible in America. And here we sit.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #13)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:10 PM

26. Well, it's not like you are ready to turn in your guns and preach gun-control threads in RKBA group

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #26)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:03 PM

32. I think you must have me confused with someone else.

I never said that I own guns, and I don't post in the gun groups.





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Response to pintobean (Reply #32)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:21 PM

35. You have said you own guns and why. I can supply links to refresh your memory, along with links

where you defend the infamous George Zimmerman for stalking, intimidating and ultimately killing an unarmed teenager.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:38 PM

37. No, you can't.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #37)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:45 PM

39. Since you are calling me a liar --

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211337869


If this is not you, will be glad to apologize:

"If we actually enforced the laws we have, and handed out real punishment for violators, we wouldn't live in such a dangerous society. Until that happens, many of us will be armed. We can't wait for an understaffed and underpaid PD to respond to a 911 call. And new useless and unenforced laws won't change that."

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #39)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:51 PM

40. "We" and "us" being a community and/or society

That doesn't say I own any guns.



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Response to Hoyt (Reply #39)

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 07:25 AM

45. So, after failing

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you just pretend it didn't happen? You posted a false statement about me, basically called me a liar, claimed you could prove it, and failed to do so. I suspect that, in your search to prove yourself right, you found out you are dead wrong. Now you slink away.


ETA - You're a total POS and a coward.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #13)

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:00 AM

42. It's disgusting.

Might as well just hang out on FB or Twitter.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:38 AM

14. I feel your pain.

I truly do.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:51 AM

16. Please don't sell him a gun...Please don't sell him a gun...Please don't sell him a gun...

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 12:55 PM

18. Co-Workers to Chris Rock: "So, did you know Wayne Williams?"

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 01:03 PM

20. Right

Cause you know that's probably one of the first questions asked

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:22 PM

28. Suddenly it won't be about mental health issues.

And about .... Blackman shoots and kills.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 06:26 PM

29. Seriously, does the man's race, religion, age, politics or national origin matter?

We've had so many mass shootings in this country, every demographic has been represented by now. The only constant thread that runs through such tragedies is they were all perpretrated with guns.

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Response to sop (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:07 PM

33. You're bothsiderism view is very convenient

as an argument to take attention away from the real facts of the issue of mass shootings. The overwhelming majority of these crimes are done by white men.

I don’t recall, though I could be wrong, of any women of any race who went on a mass murder spree.

Trump doesn’t give everyone the go ahead to shoot others. He bestows his approval on white men doing it. And specifically those who go to his rallies.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #33)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:40 PM

38. You're absolutely correct, women never commit such crimes, it's always men

Still, mass shootings have been committed by every race and ethnicity, typically in numbers proportional to each group's percentage of the total population. White men go on killing sprees much more often than other groups because whites make up nearly 70% of the population.

This 40-year-old, certified professional engineer, employed by the City of Virginia Beach, didn't kill a dozen co-workers because he was black; he was obviously mentally ill and went over the edge for some reason, and he had a gun. I know some people will want to make it a racial thing, but I believe it's about the guns in our society.

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Response to sop (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 07:07 PM

34. yes and no.

It doesn't matter who does it because these mass killings are abhorrent no matter the background of the shooter. However there is the additional content of how the shooting will be framed when it is not a white man that commits these crimes.

White Man = Mental Instability, Lone Gunman(there are always reasons why this particular person did this, and never the most obvious ones.)

Black Man = Unhinged Vicious Animal (with additional modifier of "absolute" proof of "all" black people being violent)

Hispanic Man = Criminal Vicious Thug (that's why we shouldn't let them in because that's "how they are" )

Middle Eastern sounding name or appearance = Terrorist

Assorted other folks = Second level, or visceral reaction, depends on how far away from the eurocentric ideals the perps appearance/background is.

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Response to Afromania (Reply #34)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 09:32 PM

36. True PLUS

When white men do it, it's an individual act that, as you say, shows mental instability, and is not reflective of his race or community.

But when black and brown men do it, they are dangerous, animalistic, thugs, terrorists - and others of their race and community are partially responsible and also looked at suspiciously as a result.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:46 PM

41. It's disgruntled workplace violence.

As long as the motivation wasn't "political", this shooting will be forgotten in a week.

Unfortunately, we in this country now accept the fact someone's going to snap and shoot their co-workers once in awhile.

God bless America.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Original post)

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 12:10 AM

43. Or Arabic. Or Hispanic

But, I'm guessing that he was a white man.

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Response to AnnieBW (Reply #43)

Sun Jun 2, 2019, 08:12 AM

46. You guessed wrong.

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