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Fri May 31, 2019, 09:32 AM

Trump talking about tariffs on Mexico. It will fuck us beyond belief.

Want to pay more for your underwear, your jeans, your shirts, your shoes, and hundreds of everyday things you buy? And even if items are not made in Mexico, American sellers will raise the prices on all equivalent items made elsewhere. After all, why pass up an opportunity to fuck Americans who are stuck buying necessities.

There are many thousands of reasons that Trump, and the Republican Party need to just go away and get out of our lives.

It's so ironic that many people who consistently vote for them are getting fucked beyond belief. Yet, they don't/can't "get it." It's possible that this form of ignorance is an unrecognized disease.

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Reply Trump talking about tariffs on Mexico. It will fuck us beyond belief. (Original post)
Cyrano May 2019 OP
ProudMNDemocrat May 2019 #1
dalton99a May 2019 #2
comradebillyboy May 2019 #3
unblock May 2019 #4
Cyrano May 2019 #5
unblock May 2019 #6
Cyrano May 2019 #7
SamKnause May 2019 #9
Cyrano May 2019 #10
Merlot May 2019 #29
The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #8
shanti May 2019 #11
pandr32 May 2019 #26
Bettie May 2019 #27
Cyrano May 2019 #12
dalton99a May 2019 #20
Initech May 2019 #13
keithbvadu2 May 2019 #17
Dirty Socialist May 2019 #14
Cyrano May 2019 #15
Cosmocat May 2019 #18
world wide wally May 2019 #16
Marthe48 May 2019 #19
Merlot May 2019 #30
Marthe48 May 2019 #31
PoindexterOglethorpe May 2019 #21
EveHammond13 May 2019 #22
zentrum May 2019 #23
IronLionZion May 2019 #25
zentrum Jun 2019 #34
ooky May 2019 #24
redstatebluegirl May 2019 #28
Skittles May 2019 #33
Ilsa May 2019 #32

Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 09:34 AM

1. Less disposable income means recession.....

That is where Trump is taking us if he keeps this tariff shit up. For disposable income is what drives the economy.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 09:35 AM

2. Tomatoes, avocados, car batteries, auto parts, appliances, etc.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 09:43 AM

3. He blows up his own trade deal.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 09:55 AM

4. don't forget cars. even cars built in the u.s. have many parts imported from mexico.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:00 AM

5. Yep. Car ownership may become a luxury for the rich

And the rest of us will be living with Uber, buses, and whatever transportation is available if you don't live in a city.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #5)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:01 AM

6. but teslas are cool, so all is good!

you can enjoy watching them from the bus!

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Response to unblock (Reply #6)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:05 AM

7. Buy a bike.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #7)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:27 AM

9. There are no trains, buses, cabs or subways in my rural area.

The closest grocery store is a 23 mile round trip.

It is a Save-A-Lot grocery discount store.

I would like to see you bike 23 miles loaded down with groceries.

How are disabled people suppose to get around ???

How are the elderly suppose to get around ???

Buy a bike.

What a joke.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #9)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:58 AM

10. I hear you

I hear you loud and clear. And I wish I had an answer. I wish I had a cure. I wish our government would recognize what you just said and would help provide a solution.

But my wishes, and yours, will not come to be in the current march back to the dark ages.

We know that those in power will not fix any of it and don't give a rat's ass if it's ever fixed.

All we can do is vote for people who care about other people. Beyond that, we are helpless beyond insurrection. And we see that, what insurrection has done to much of the rest of the world, is unacceptable in terms of human life and well being.

But to come back to what you've said. Damn, I hear you, I empathize, I get it, I hear you. But I can't change it. Hopefully, the Cavalry is over the hill and on the way to save us all. But short of the ballot box, or a violent reaction to the crazies with which I don't want to happen, I really don't know what to do.

Yet, we are joined by our hopes, our fears, and our vision of a better world.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #7)

Fri May 31, 2019, 01:09 PM

29. Nothing more fun that carrying groceries home on a bike

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 10:23 AM

8. Start expecting $10 for a side salad.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:10 AM

11. Yup, restaurant prices will go up too

Guess I'll be cooking at home a lot more.

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Response to shanti (Reply #11)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:53 PM

26. When they do they stay there

I have never seen restaurant prices go down after they've been raised.

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #26)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:56 PM

27. Gas is the only price

that I've ever seen go down after it goes up.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:22 AM

12. From your lips to god's mouth

Or the senses of whatever "supreme" entity may exist.

For "believers," a $10 salad should be a sign that "the dark side" has taken over and is running things.

But what the hell. Why rely on omens, thoughtfulness, or even facts? After all, we're being fed a platter of bullshit daily. No reason to rely on our own instincts, intelligence, or common sense.

George Orwell's final line in his classic, "Brave New World," is the ultimate defeat of humanity. His protagonist, while watching a TV screen, has had his brain destroyed to the point where "He loves Big Brother."

Is this our future?

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #8)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:21 PM

20. Restaurant prices are already rising faster than inflation

In December, prices at full-service restaurants were up 0.5 percent from the prior month on a seasonally adjusted basis, the biggest monthly increase since March 2011, according to the consumer price index. And in January, full-service restaurant prices were up 2.7 percent from a year earlier, well above the 1.6 percent annual rise for inflation overall.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:26 AM

13. Dragging us into Great Depression II just to "own the libs". Great.

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Response to Initech (Reply #13)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:12 PM

17. Drives libruls crazy

Drives libruls crazy

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:26 AM

14. I have mixed emotions

Bad news: the economy might be in serious trouble
Good news: Trump might be FUCKED in 2020
More bad news: we might have to spend a lot of time cleaning up Trump's mess

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Response to Dirty Socialist (Reply #14)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:30 AM

15. And we may be fucked beyond repair

Getting rid of Trump isn't enough.

We must rid ourselves of the disease called the Republican Party. And then we must start rebuilding the country that most of us once believed we lived in.

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Response to Cyrano (Reply #15)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:13 PM

18. T H I S !!!

He is a symptom, not a cause ...

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:04 PM

16. It's called Trumpsicosis

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:20 PM

19. Stock up on what you can

And plant a veggie garden. Plant fruit trees and bushes. Keep reaching out to friends. Share your resources. We need our local social networks to be strong.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #19)

Fri May 31, 2019, 01:11 PM

30. Why yes, stock up and start a garden.

Unless you live in a one bedroom apartment in the city.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #30)

Fri May 31, 2019, 08:55 PM

31. I've always lived in suburbs or small towns

I don't forget about urban dwellers. It's just that I have seen so many clever ideas to grow gardens, I assume everyone can find a spot even in a 1 bedroom apt.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:25 PM

21. He hasn't a clue how tariffs actually work, and either no one

around him understands either or they're too fucking cowardly to tell him or he's puts his hands over his ears and goos "Naa, naa, naa, naa, can't hear you" when they do try to explain.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:25 PM

22. Hopefully it will cost Cornyn his Senate seat

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:26 PM

23. Well boo-hoo for us.

Instead of crying over paying more, and losing access to goods made by poor Mexicans who are paid starvation wages, we should have been agitating and voting for higher wages and stronger labor for the last 40 years. We coasted. We were passive. So long as we could squeak by with cheap shopping.

It always seems wrong to me that we lament when we can't get cheap goods, based on someone else's subsistence life. We should have been demanding that owners pay all workers a living wage. For us and for South Americans.

Should demand a fair progressive tax system so we aren't being robbed by the 1%. The tax system we have now is a way to move our wages up and out of our grasp. Thne we need cheap goods for our toys for our birthday parties.

It's like we're sleep walking, incapable of a deeper economic analysis, when we're often only getting by because people to the South of us (and elsewhere around the world) are really suffering.

Democrats are better than this.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #23)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:49 PM

25. The tariffs don't help workers on either side of the border

Everything this administration does is to benefit their wealthy cronies.

There are Democrats who support international minimum wage and workers' rights. Back in the day, Fritz Hollings even suggested implementing a sort of Marshall plan for economic development in countries south of the border instead of a border wall.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #25)

Sat Jun 1, 2019, 10:03 AM

34. Agreed.

Tariffs have never helped workers. Not advocating for that at all. Advocating for wages. A cross border Marshall Plan sounds great. Didn't know about Hollings effort. Thanks for the info.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:41 PM

24. Not only will they have to raise prices to cover the tariff they pay, their operational costs will

also rise to pay for the tariffs in their capital equipment and tooling that is also produced in Mexico. So they will have to recover that cost as well.

There are a lot of U.S. manufacturing companies in shock today. Supply chains back to Mexico are a common strategy in American manufacturing. American manufacturing is essentially interwoven with Mexico through its supply chain investments.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 12:59 PM

28. His base will be screaming bloody murder.

Do they know how much beer is imported from Mexico, how many pickup truck parts come from there since all of the American auto makers have moved stuff to Mexico.

How will they blame Obama and the Democrats for this?

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #28)

Fri May 31, 2019, 11:05 PM

33. his base will believe whatever he tells them

they're fucking stupid

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2019, 09:05 PM

32. The tariffs are likely temporary because they are only by

Executive Order. Because they are temporary, manufacturers cannot risk developing new facilities. No new jobs will be created. Americans will pay more for food and goods. The tariffs will cost Mexico enough that they won't be able to afford additional border personnel.

Trump has made the immigration problem worse, not better. Trump has made American families poorer because most of the tariff will be passed on to US consumers.

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