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Will the Levees hold? (Original Post) malaise Aug 2012 OP
Only time will tell, but this is a CAT 1, so with any luck Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #1
Yes, but it is very slow edhopper Aug 2012 #19
Only if Romney's don't gain too much weight in the ass. TheCowsCameHome Aug 2012 #2
I'm pretty sure they will. Since Katrina some things have changed. nolabear Aug 2012 #3
I am hopeful that lessons have been learned malaise Aug 2012 #4
There is still quite a lot that never got rebuilt from Katrina...a local man I was talking to HipChick Aug 2012 #6
Wow -that must be painful malaise Aug 2012 #7
Unlike Katrina, Isaac is a slow mover..... MzShellG Aug 2012 #5
I share your worries malaise Aug 2012 #15
The levees will be fine. Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #25
I guess... Oilwellian Aug 2012 #26
Those were floodwalls Drahthaardogs Aug 2012 #27
k&r... spanone Aug 2012 #8
Lots of overtopping but the levees are holding so far malaise Aug 2012 #21
Let's hope the 1%ers don't blow them up again. nt valerief Aug 2012 #9
Good point malaise Aug 2012 #10
Still a TS at 8am... greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #11
Not for much longer malaise Aug 2012 #14
Yep... greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #17
Hopefully This Will Come in Handy... KharmaTrain Aug 2012 #12
I hope so but Isaac is a very wide slow moving storm malaise Aug 2012 #13
Now moving at 6mph and the pressure is dropping big time - really bad news malaise Aug 2012 #16
Officially became a hurricane during the noon news. HappyMe Aug 2012 #18
Indeed Stay Safe Louisiana DUers malaise Aug 2012 #20
The old levees in Plaquemines Parish malaise Aug 2012 #22
Oh no! HappyMe Aug 2012 #23
And the rain will not be stopping for some time malaise Aug 2012 #24
The National Guard is HappyMe Aug 2012 #28

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
2. Only if Romney's don't gain too much weight in the ass.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:02 PM
Aug 2012

Couldn't resist.

Seriously NOLA, be safe out there..................

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
3. I'm pretty sure they will. Since Katrina some things have changed.
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:10 PM
Aug 2012

They have been reinforced and believe me, every inch has been examined, or so it's been reported. And last time another factor was the inadequate pumping stations and the panicked employees who ran for it rather than stay and keep them running. That's all in much better shape.

Hopefully it'll be a Cat2 at the most. New Orleans East is outside the levee system and is really low but with Katrina, that area blew away as much as flooded. It may see some damage.

Hurricanes are dangerous. But I think people are mighty sober after Katrina and there's more caution and less stupid. Some hurricane parties from that one ended in disaster.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
6. There is still quite a lot that never got rebuilt from Katrina...a local man I was talking to
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:24 PM
Aug 2012

last week, was telling me...that many contractors were brought in to rebuild the city, and very little local labor was used...

His birthday is also on the anniversary of Katrina, however he no longer celebrates as he lost his mother,father and sister in Katrina..

MzShellG

(1,047 posts)
5. Unlike Katrina, Isaac is a slow mover.....
Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:18 PM
Aug 2012

So consider these factors: It will be over NOLA much longer. 12-18hrs after pretty much making landfall there. The winds will also affect NOLA much longer albeit weaker, but nearly 24hrs of rain will be a major issue. My prayers are with them.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
25. The levees will be fine.
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 09:15 AM
Aug 2012

I work a little bit with levees. The problem was not the structural integrity of the levees, the problem was with their height. When a levee overflows, the water starts to cascade off the levee and hit the bottom of the levee. It starts to erode the bottom away, and then the levee fails. Since Katrina, they have been made significantly taller.

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
26. I guess...
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 11:11 AM
Aug 2012

you forgot about the reports on the New Orleans levee being stuffed with newspaper? There was so much corruption surrounding the New Orleans levee system, ( I know because I lived there for many years), one can only HOPE they've cleaned that fucking mess up and got serious about protecting New Orleans residents.

malaise

(268,898 posts)
21. Lots of overtopping but the levees are holding so far
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 05:49 AM
Aug 2012

Still this is worrying because this is a Cat1 hurricane.
More squalls on the way.

Looks like more folks without power than with power in NOLA.
http://www.wwltv.com/live-stream/exempt

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
12. Hopefully This Will Come in Handy...
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 08:16 AM
Aug 2012


The Lake Bourne Surge barrier...it wasn't there in 2005 and should prevent a large surge heading up the MRGO canal that destroyed the lower 9th.

Katrina was a hard-earned lesson and billions have been spend on the canals, pumping system and this barrier...here's hoping that Isaac moves quickly and remains a weak storm...

malaise

(268,898 posts)
16. Now moving at 6mph and the pressure is dropping big time - really bad news
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 08:25 AM
Aug 2012

This will be a hurricane at landfall

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
18. Officially became a hurricane during the noon news.
Tue Aug 28, 2012, 12:35 PM
Aug 2012

I hope all the new levees hold up.

Stay safe everybody.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
23. Oh no!
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 07:18 AM
Aug 2012



The president of that parish was just on Good Morning America. There is already extensive damage, and 17-24 hours of this hurricane yet to go.

malaise

(268,898 posts)
24. And the rain will not be stopping for some time
Wed Aug 29, 2012, 08:38 AM
Aug 2012

Serious problems
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/29/hurricane-isaac-louisiana-levee-flood
<snip>
Low-lying areas in south-east Louisiana faced serious flooding on Wednesday as Hurricane Isaac began to slowly move inland and towards New Orleans.

After making landfall on Tuesday night in extreme south-eastern Louisiana, Isaac remained stationary for several hours, unleashing 80mph winds on a sparsely populated neck of land that stretches into the Gulf of Mexico. Early on Wednesday it started moving towards New Orleans at around eight miles an hour – exactly seven years after the city was devastated by Hurricane Katrina.

Floodwater has already lapped over an 18-mile (29km) stretch of the levee along the Mississippi river in Plaquemines Parish, south-east of the city, threatening serious flooding.

There were reports of four-to-nine feet of water in the streets, houses flooded and perilous attempts to flee. Sheriffs' deputies made house-to-house visits looking for residents who had remained after an evacuation order.

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