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Sat May 25, 2019, 01:12 PM

Breaking News about Trump's "ultimate hypocrisy" I.M.H.O.

Trump’s Targeting of Intelligence Agencies Gains a Harder Edge
By Michael S. Schmidt and Julian E. Barnes
May 25, 2019

WASHINGTON — President Trump tried somewhat clumsily last year to revoke the security clearance of the former C.I.A. director who played a role in opening the Russia investigation. He then wanted to release classified documents to prove he was the target of a “witch hunt.”

Both attempts petered out, hampered by aides who slow-rolled the president and Justice Department officials who fought Mr. Trump, warning he was jeopardizing national security.

Mr. Trump took the highly unusual step on Thursday of granting Mr. Barr the power to declassify the most closely guarded secrets of the C.I.A. and the country’s 15 other intelligence agencies. Mr. Barr had asked for the authority to facilitate his review of the intelligence agencies’ involvement in the early stages of the Russia investigation.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/us/politics/trump-intelligence-agencies.html


The ultimate hypocrisy:

While Trump refuses to reveal his tax-returns and the complete Mueller report, he is planning to reveal top-secrets of not only the CIA but also many other U.S. intelligence agencies.

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Reply Breaking News about Trump's "ultimate hypocrisy" I.M.H.O. (Original post)
real Cannabis calm May 2019 OP
trev May 2019 #1
BSdetect May 2019 #2
lark May 2019 #3
ancianita May 2019 #4
real Cannabis calm May 2019 #11
ancianita May 2019 #14
Kurt V. May 2019 #5
pazzyanne May 2019 #6
alfredo May 2019 #7
ancianita May 2019 #12
alfredo May 2019 #15
RockRaven May 2019 #8
eggplant May 2019 #9
RockRaven May 2019 #10
eggplant May 2019 #19
RockRaven May 2019 #21
NewJeffCT May 2019 #13
eggplant May 2019 #18
Hermit-The-Prog May 2019 #16
eggplant May 2019 #20
RockRaven May 2019 #22
uponit7771 May 2019 #17

Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 01:15 PM

1. He's already violated national security twice.

Why should he stop now?

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 01:29 PM

2. Barr is an idiot who will fare worse than Ghouliani soon enough

Putin's arms must be tired from all the puppet string pulling.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 01:53 PM

3. He's already sold them to his BFF, just needs to produce the info & this is the plan.

he'll be hurting our Intelligence forces in 2 ways, giving them to the enemy so they can take out any double agents and kill or misinform our agents, and twisting the information out of shape to use it to make yes be no and vice versa. I just hope they are as stupid about this as they were the previous release of information so it totally flops here. The part about Russia really concerns me the most and I believe is the real reason for the farce. I'm sure PUtin is coaching him on this.

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Response to lark (Reply #3)

Sat May 25, 2019, 02:34 PM

4. They are Putin's two-man Fifth Column. nt

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Response to ancianita (Reply #4)

Sat May 25, 2019, 07:15 PM

11. With Putin, you can take the agent out of the KGB; but you can't take the KGB out of the agent

Believe it or not, I had a top-secret clearance, in the U.S. military and understand the concept of NEED TO KNOW, which EVERY one of these agencies will evoke, when these political clowns (or traitors, Trump appointed to head the U.S. intelligence agencies) attempt to force agents to reveal secrets.

Also, believe it or not, long after my military service, I rented from a C.I.A. agent, who despised "W" Bush. He retired the equivalent of Colonial (Captain in the Navy.) We'd sit by the back-door of his mansion, where I rented the butler's quarters and drink beer. I was working at a radio station, at the time; but I've written and edited copy for other media companies. At the time "W" was president and my land-lord, friend also told me that if Bush reactivated him, he would go back to Guantanamo Bay. He served, during the Bay of Pigs invasion. In many ways, the CIA resembles the KGB, or whatever Putin calls them now. "You can take the agent out of the CIA, but you can't take the CIA out of the agent."

Please allow me to introduce myself.


Essentially, Trump double-crossed Putin, by not keeping his word. Now, the fool has double-crossed the CIA and other more dangerous agencies, which will obtain retribution.

The link leads to a Youtube video of a Rolling Stones performance, which was not at all typical. Mick Jagger decided to pay the Hell's Angels (to conduct security) in beer! His poor decision caused serious consequences, including deaths at the Altamont Festival, in 1969.
"I shined the light on who killed the Kennedy's, when after all it was you and me."

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Reply #11)

Sat May 25, 2019, 08:58 PM

14. Thanks for sharing your experience.I nevertheless think that 45 follows a timeline laid out by Putin

Putin has his personal and beloved Hells' Angels, too, called the Black Wolves, who stormed their cycles into Ukraine's capital after Russia's invasion was done.

45, as Putin's tool, doesn't care, or envision, what his "considerations" will do to this republic as he drives public fear, diminishes people's will to resist, to stay honest or focused. He probably gets instructions about when and how the Russians get hold of our Intel agencies' intel.

But. Putin, with his "Eurasian Project" goals of weakening the West, has that vision figured out. Questions about where 45's decisions and "considerations" come from get more apparent every day.

Today we get reports that Trump is "considering" "deputizing" the military as nationwide police. It doesn't matter that such a move could be done. It's flinging fear of his power around. He feeds the armed right wing's imaginations. He throws shit out there to see what gets media attention, fact or not.

Let's say the US military IS ordered to act as "deputies" for the CiC. Military brass remembers that every single military member has a family in the US; and military brass can refuse any order they believe is counter to the interests of the country, under the military uniform code of justice. They cannot get rid of their CiC, but we civilian Americans can.

The Intel agencies and military are made up of Americans, not cynics used to being lied to and hoaxed over the way American media, Ukrainians and Russians have been. So my theory is that nothing will reach 45 that could hurt intel agencies' functioning. Yet.

How long Trump swings "considerations" and decisions like a wrecking ball at Putin's "suggestion" -- weakening our DOJ; stigmatizing our FBI law enforcement's mission to assess security threats; declassifying all three letter agencies' Intel and handing intel over to his Russian boss; warning that media publications of Intelligence from those agencies is treason -- the clearest and most present danger that Americans need to consider is how much longer this government can withstand him. It can't be much longer, and no one wants to wait to see if 2020 is rigged.

What's going on with destabilizing the UK through Brexit, past EU and US hacks, can further their digital successes in the our 2020 vote counts. Putin's GRU digitally shut down Estonia; their "politics of eternity" means they'll never stop their "hybrid" insurgencies on the West.

If Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg don't closely monitor 45 (not just his Kremlin boss) who would undermine American democracy and exploit their platforms to do it, they're complicit in his being Putin's tool.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 02:40 PM

5. barr is a fox news zombie. now imagine the crazy uncle fox news zombie but

smart, connected and powerful.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 03:34 PM

6. Doesn't this fit the "high crimes and misdemeanors" mark?

Making secret intel public seems to go against the reason Barr wrote his 4 page "summary" of the Mueller Report. I am so-o-o-o over this illegal crap of putting our nation is danger. When are republicans going to start standing up for our nation instead of Comrade Combover?

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 03:37 PM

7. I wonder how much he will share with Vladimir? They will

try to find wrong doing, and if none is found they will make it up.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #7)

Sat May 25, 2019, 08:22 PM

12. Intel won't share anything that can compromise their sources. And Barr won't know, anyway.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #12)

Sat May 25, 2019, 09:20 PM

15. True.

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Response to real Cannabis calm (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 03:38 PM

8. He will declassify enough sources and methods for Putin to round up and kill every Russian source...

This will be treason (and I am NOT one to throw that term around lightly), full-stop, right out in the open, by and at the direction of the POTUS. Barr is as immoral as Trump, and that is saying something...

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #8)

Sat May 25, 2019, 03:48 PM

9. We're not at war. Treason doesn't apply.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #9)

Sat May 25, 2019, 04:36 PM

10. Russia uses warfare terminology to describe their motives and actions, I'll take them at their word

on that one issue.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #10)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:39 PM

19. We conduct a lot of ongoing business with Russia.

It is hard to argue that we are at war with them.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #19)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:05 AM

21. By their own words, THEY are at war with US.

And when it comes to warfare, the Symmetric Property of Equality applies.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #9)

Sat May 25, 2019, 08:29 PM

13. If somebody at Pearl Harbor was in league with the Japanese

would that have been considered an act of treason since we weren't technically at war with Japan on December 7, 1941?

Trump and his team aided and abetted Russian attacks on America. It may not have been as immediately devastating as Pearl Harbor, but the long-term effects can potentially be disastrous as well

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #13)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:37 PM

18. Yes.

It would be considered "levying war" as it would have been part of (in league with) the initial attack.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #9)

Sat May 25, 2019, 09:23 PM

16. the Constitution does apply

The Constitution defines treason without referring to war. It leaves to Congress to declare the penalty for treason and Congress has only done so for situations involving hostilities governed by rules of war.

Trump has committed treason, as defined by the U.S. Constitution. We just don't seem to have a punishment declared for his brand of treason.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii#section3

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #16)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:42 PM

20. Yes, it does.

"shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort."

It is difficult to call Russia a declared enemy. We do a lot of ongoing business with them. We pay them to send our astronauts to the ISS, for example. Would we do that with an "enemy"?

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Response to eggplant (Reply #20)

Sun May 26, 2019, 12:09 AM

22. Why don't you bold the word "OR" in that quote? What follows is the relevant part...

"adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort"

Trump (and soon Barr, according to recent reports of impending declassifications at his direction) are adhering to our enemy (as determined by Russia's own declarations on the matter), and giving them aid and comfort.

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #8)

Sat May 25, 2019, 11:13 PM

17. +1

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