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Thu May 23, 2019, 11:02 AM

This may be Trump's future. Indictments for bank fraud and tax fraud.

We can see it taking shape. Congress is getting closer and closer to getting Trump's bank records and tax returns. My home state of New York is passing laws that will help congress investigate Trump taxes and nullify his pardon power. No double jeopardy.

The New York State government and justice department are working with The Democrats in congress to bring Trump and his family to justice.

When Trump leaves office he may be in severe legal jeopardy.

Trump has already been named in the Cohen case. Trump will be charged with the same crime when he leaves office. Cohen has shown us some evidence of how Trump lies to banks. Trump likes to play with the numbers. That's fraud and he has probably done it his whole life. It's just a matter of time before justice catches up to Trump.

Removing Trump from office is the first step. Then I want him put on trial and sent to prison for the disgusting life he has led.

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Reply This may be Trump's future. Indictments for bank fraud and tax fraud. (Original post)
shockey80 May 23 OP
Quemado May 23 #1
StarfishSaver May 23 #2
greymattermom May 23 #3
StarfishSaver May 23 #5
olegramps May 24 #14
cstanleytech May 26 #16
pecosbob May 23 #4
shockey80 May 23 #7
pecosbob May 23 #9
dalton99a May 23 #6
ProfessorPlum May 23 #8
Frustratedlady May 23 #10
Quemado May 23 #11
ProfessorPlum May 23 #12
modrepub May 24 #13
The Wizard May 25 #15
Stuart G May 26 #17
RainCaster May 26 #18
RockRaven May 27 #19
NickB79 May 27 #20
smirkymonkey May 27 #21

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:16 AM

1. Does NY have to wait until Trump leaves office in order to indict?

The policy to not indict a sitting President is a DOJ (Federal gov't) policy. AFAIK, NY does not have this policy.

Does NY have to wait until Trump leaves office before indicting him?

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Response to Quemado (Reply #1)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:20 AM

2. No, they wouldn't have to wait, but

certainly Trump will challenge the indictment, which would be a great opportunity for the courts to rule on this as a constitutional matter. I'm certain that the Supreme Court will reach the same conclusion it reached when it ruled that a sitting president could indeed be sued while in office.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #2)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:22 AM

3. Maybe there will be civil cases coming from New York too.

Does Trump have a way to stop those?

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Response to greymattermom (Reply #3)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:27 AM

5. No. The Supreme Court has held that a sitting president can be sued

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Response to Quemado (Reply #1)

Fri May 24, 2019, 11:39 AM

14. Trump's presidency provided the impetus for these investigations. What's wrong the system?


Here is what really bothers me about the entire fiasco. These people have getting away with these illegal actions for years and most probably would have never come under scrutiny if they had not become involved with this administration. How was Trump able to avoid detection for twenty, thirty or more years? Something is terribly wrong with the system. When I withdrew over 10,000 I was questioned as to the purpose while they are transferring hundreds of millions without any oversight.

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Response to olegramps (Reply #14)

Sun May 26, 2019, 03:21 PM

16. The problem is the Republican party and especially those in office as they are not doing their jobs

one of which is to be a check on "every" President and not just the ones that are Democrats.
Instead what we have seen is rampant ethical and moral corruption by them due to their refusal to hold Trump to the same standard they held President Obama.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:23 AM

4. I'm hearing rumours about nine separate redacted money laundering cases

@sandibachom

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Response to pecosbob (Reply #4)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:54 AM

7. I believe there is so many crimes we don't know about yet.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #7)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:56 AM

9. https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212122821

I was in the courtroom yesterday during the Deutsche Bank arguments. They pretty much said Russian Oligarchs money laundered through Trump and Jared, I think he will act crazier and crazier to get out of this, he knew the argument was WEAK and what was coming. It's over

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:47 AM

6. The best way to put him behind bars for good

Follow the money



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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 11:56 AM

8. It's a real indictment of our system that this family was allowed

to commit all of these crimes over many years, and were never discovered and/or weren't important enough and/or were allowed to operate above the law.

How did he even get close to the White House with this record, and what is obviously a criminal enterprise?

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #8)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:09 PM

10. The question that comes to my mind is...

If the investigations find that Trump cheated on his taxes and it is true that the IRS audits Trump every year (as he's stated), then why wouldn't the IRS be in trouble for not finding he has cheated? Can money laundering be discovered through tax reports? I can't imagine it could be, but then I can't understand how they launder money in the first place unless it is through selling real estate at outrageous prices.

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Response to ProfessorPlum (Reply #8)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:18 PM

11. The deeper question is: why hasn't Trump ever been indicted

by NY? Trump committed crimes in NY for decades.

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Response to Quemado (Reply #11)

Thu May 23, 2019, 02:02 PM

12. is it possible he was a law enforcement asset?

A dumb conduit for NY law enforcement to keep an eye on the mob? And was rewarded for his service by being allowed to continue operating.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri May 24, 2019, 08:25 AM

13. Useful Idiot

That's what the Repubs see in Trump. They want their slanted tax cuts, judicial appointments and executive policy changes. When he leaves office he will be persona non grata to them.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 09:44 PM

15. Don't fuck with the money

You can stab your grandmother 27 times and get 6 months in the rubber room. Fuck with the money and go to jail. But it pays to steal in large numbers. Then you get labeled as cleaver. If you steal a loaf of bread to feed the family you'll probably get a beating from some thugs acting under the color of law, and then incarcerated.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:58 PM

17. I sure hope you are correct about all predictions. Expecially the "trial" part.

Obviously, removing from office is utmost importance.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 10:08 PM

18. That's how they got Al Capone

In Al's case, it was tax evasion

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2019, 11:00 AM

19. A lifetime of trying to borrow from banks leaves a lot of opportunities to lie...

and Trump never misses an opportunity to lie.

Remember that lying to the bank when seeking a loan is part of what Manafort was charged with.

Cohen's claim that Trump inflated his assets when communicating with the banks but deflated his assets when communicating with tax authorities is absolutely vintage Trump behavior and therefore rather believable even if the source is a lying P.O.S., and I would be SHOCKED if there isn't a mountain of evidence of bank and tax fraud sitting there waiting for people to put the puzzle pieces together.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2019, 11:05 AM

20. Which is why he will do ANYTHING to get another term

And delay his indictments and stack the courts more.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon May 27, 2019, 11:05 AM

21. His entire life has been one of crime and corruption.

It's about time it catches up with him and his grifting, idiot children.

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