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Wed May 22, 2019, 11:38 PM

Pelosi's detractors were right about one thing: She IS a lightning rod. And thank God, she is

And Iíll bet the red state Members who, even if they support impeachment, need some time and space to help their constituents catch up with the rest of us, are grateful that Nancy Pelosi is taking the incoming bolts for them.

Thatís what a leader does. And Pelosi is doing it so well, she makes it look easy - so easy, in fac, that some people donít even realize sheís doing it.

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Reply Pelosi's detractors were right about one thing: She IS a lightning rod. And thank God, she is (Original post)
EffieBlack May 22 OP
MontanaMama May 22 #1
Historic NY May 22 #2
SunSeeker May 23 #3
herding cats May 23 #4
SunSeeker May 23 #5
forgotmylogin May 23 #11
StarfishSaver May 23 #14
Laura PourMeADrink May 23 #6
pnwmom May 23 #7
Gothmog May 23 #8
KPN May 23 #9
ooky May 23 #10
mcar May 23 #12
Nitram May 23 #13
crud May 23 #15
Harker May 25 #16
Antifa Tim May 25 #17
Chemisse May 26 #18
StarfishSaver May 26 #19
Chemisse May 26 #21
EffieBlack May 26 #22
StarfishSaver May 26 #23
Chemisse May 26 #24
Baltimike May 26 #20

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:45 PM

1. You said it.

I trust our Speaker.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:53 PM

2. She certainly gets under Trumps skin.....

trolling him to his core.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:16 AM

3. Today was a distraction to cover up the fact that he didn't really have an infrastructure plan.

Trump knew if he had gone forward with the meeting, Pelosi and Schumer would have confirmed that fact. So he threw a fit. But they surmised it anyway. Schumer was on Lawrence O'Donnell saying that tonight.

But you're right, Nancy Pelosi is quite the resilient lightning rod.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #3)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:26 AM

4. She played him like a violin with the "cover-up" comment prior to the meeting.

Then she rubbed in the salt with the "temper tantrum for us all to see" and verbal smack down to Kellyanne when she ran in to try and salvage some PR for Trump.

She owned the day and they're left playing cleanup. As it should be.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #4)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:37 AM

5. Yes, she owned him today. He looked nuts. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #3)

Thu May 23, 2019, 04:03 PM

11. ...and since Pelosi and Schumer did, he'd have to find reasons NOT to go along with it...

...he didn't want to give them any kind of apparent victory, even if it was the "yes, the sky is blue" type concession.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #3)

Thu May 23, 2019, 04:36 PM

14. If that was his goal, he failed bigly

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 01:08 AM

6. -1

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 01:11 AM

7. She has such style. She's killing him with kindness.


"I pray for the president of the United States and I pray for the United States of America."

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 01:12 AM

8. Something about Nancy Pelosi just gets under Donald Trump's skin

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:45 PM

9. I sure hope you are right about the red State members.

Hopefully, they are not all 100% involved in the collusion that no doubt took place and have some allegiance to our Constitution.

On Pelosi, I know you are right. She serves as a lightening rod willingly and purposefully. Sheís no dummy. And tRumpís no match.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 12:52 PM

10. Loved her responses to the M$M this morning "you are buying into his excuse"

and "I'm not talking about her", in particular. Really good presser by Nancy.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 04:07 PM

12. This!

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 04:33 PM

13. Democrats who aren't a lighting rod, aren't really a Democrat or a liberal/progressive.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Thu May 23, 2019, 07:01 PM

15. Hopefully this plan works so well that

the republicans in the senate will be begging the Speaker to impeach the crazy idiot.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 07:50 AM

16. When lightning flashes...

even in the darkest night, the truth is visible for all to see.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sat May 25, 2019, 09:54 PM

17. We wanted a woman in charge...

 

...so let the woman lead! I am fed up with these men trying to mansplain their reasons to slam Nancy Pelosi and her wise refusal to throw Brer Trump into the Senate Briar Patch!

Fortunately I am a different kind of man! I was raised by one tough mother and a bunch of tough Nuns! Believe me, what Trump needs today is Tough-Love! Send this mess of his to the Senate and watch them exonerate him? Hell no! (Sorry Sister Aloysius ) See him smirk and gloat his way to re-election? His numbers would rise exponentially as his old fans, new fans and fence sitters all shout 'Make him King'! Any talk of impeachment is treasonous at this point in our history! When the tyrants use our rules against us we need to avoid using those same rules!

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Response to Antifa Tim (Reply #17)

Sun May 26, 2019, 07:59 AM

18. I don't think the cries for impeachment in the House are sexist or 'mansplaining'

Nancy has earned the respect of every man, including the most sexist of them all (Trump). She is no victim!

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #18)

Sun May 26, 2019, 08:17 AM

19. Calls for impeachment are not, in and of themselves, may not be "mansplaining"

But the "she doesn't know what she's doing/she's naive/what is she, stupid?" attacks on her definitely are.

And being mansplained to doesn't make one a victim. It just makes the mansplainer look foolish.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #19)

Sun May 26, 2019, 09:53 AM

21. I haven't seen all those comments.

But certainly, they could be said about a man who is holding back a flood of impeachment talk as well.

In general, I am anxious that the accusation of sexism not be overused. It needs to be clear and stinging when it is put forth, such as when an array of men are seated to discuss women's issues (just as an example).

Unwarranted or overuse of sexism as an explanation of events or behaviors tends to cheapen this very real problem that permeates all aspects of our lives. And yes, overuse suggests an embrace of victimhood, which I despise.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #21)

Sun May 26, 2019, 10:33 AM

22. Your post is the very epitome of "mansplaining"

In general, I am anxious that the accusation of sexism not be overused. It needs to be clear and stinging when it is put forth, such as when an array of men are seated to discuss women's issues (just as an example).

Unwarranted or overuse of sexism as an explanation of events or behaviors tends to cheapen this very real problem that permeates all aspects of our lives. And yes, overuse suggests an embrace of victimhood, which I despise.

Please consider how your response sounds to people who are on the receiving end of racism, sexism and other persistent discrimination, only to be instructed by others that our bringing it up will only make it difficult to address REAL discrimination when it ACTUALLY occurs (because we ourselves don't know how to recognize it but they do and will let up know when it's appropriate to say anything about it).

I urge you to rethink this.

(I don't know whether you're male or female, but either gender can mansplain - and some women are just as adept at it as men).

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #22)

Sun May 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

23. Thank you for this!

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #22)

Sun May 26, 2019, 04:49 PM

24. I see your point.

If someone complains that they have been discriminated against on the basis of sex, it is not up to us to say they haven't because it may not seem clear enough or extreme enough. I was referring to third parties (like us) blaming sexism, when reading about actions and events, not a recipient or the accuser.

I m a 64-year-old woman who has been angry about sexism my whole life. I was hurt when I was told my childhood desire to join the volunteer fire department could never happen, but I could be in the Ladies Auxiliary instead. I smoldered when my father told me I would not be able to find a husband because I was no longer a virgin. I didn't marry my husband until after seven years of cohabitation (and two babies!) because I didn't want to be dismissed as somebody's wife, rather than dealt with as an independent person. And 'living together' was rather shocking in my day. I fumed over not being able to have credit in my name, and having subcontracters ask to talk to my husband when I was organizing construction of our house. And don't even get me started on sexual invasions and assaults!

It goes on and on and never ends. But my point is that we all deal with things differently. My personality is such that I value strength probably far more that I should. And I abhor victimhood. The way I deal with all this is pretty much 'f**k you, you are not going to crush me.' And that is the lens through which I see someone say that Nancy - who I am just idolizing at the moment - is a victim of sexism and it just makes me see red.

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Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

Sun May 26, 2019, 09:00 AM

20. spot on. knr

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