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Tue May 21, 2019, 12:47 PM

BREAKING: We filed a lawsuit against the Trump Admin's final 'refusal of care' rule which expands...

BREAKING: We filed a lawsuit against the Trump Admin’s final ‘refusal of care’ rule which expands the ability of businesses & individuals to refuse to provide necessary health care on the basis of "religious beliefs or moral convictions."

.@HHSGov is giving health care providers free license to openly discriminate & refuse care to patients–a gross misinterpretation of religious freedom that will have devastating consequences on communities across the country.




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Reply BREAKING: We filed a lawsuit against the Trump Admin's final 'refusal of care' rule which expands... (Original post)
demmiblue May 21 OP
50 Shades Of Blue May 21 #1
hlthe2b May 21 #2
Sanity Claws May 21 #3
FiveGoodMen May 21 #6
Karadeniz May 21 #20
TruckFump May 21 #4
spanone May 21 #5
marble falls May 21 #7
EarnestPutz May 21 #10
marble falls May 21 #11
EarnestPutz May 21 #13
marble falls May 21 #14
EarnestPutz May 21 #15
marble falls May 21 #16
jmowreader May 21 #18
marble falls May 21 #19
matt819 May 21 #8
Ilsa May 21 #9
Wounded Bear May 21 #12
Hekate May 22 #24
Wounded Bear May 22 #26
bluecollar2 May 21 #17
smirkymonkey May 21 #21
SergeStorms May 21 #22
Wounded Bear May 22 #27
Grins May 22 #23
FBaggins May 22 #25

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:48 PM

1. K & R

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:51 PM

2. She and likeminded colleagues in NY State and NYC give me hope.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:53 PM

3. This is nuts

I can't believe what has become of our country.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #3)

Tue May 21, 2019, 02:15 PM

6. "Mark my word,

...if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.”

― Barry Goldwater

Said in November 1994, as quoted in John Dean, Conservatives Without Conscience (2006).

This has been coming for a long time. We just didn't worry about it.

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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)

Tue May 21, 2019, 08:06 PM

20. I wish I had the details but when I read it, I didn't think I'd need the info, so let the details

Slip off the brain. I think it was Jefferson who was writing to friends about filling the teaching jobs at the new university. One friend had this advice: whatever you do, don't hire Christians from a European university. They are the most quarrelsome people alive and will only cause trouble.

When have religious extremists not spelled trouble?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:59 PM

4. RIGHT ON, AG JAMES!!!!!!!!

Way to go.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 01:01 PM

5. In trump world it's 'religious' and 'moral' to deny people healthcare...Got it.

...and Jesus Wept.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 02:40 PM

7. What a great way to break a contract: "whatever it is we don't believe in that."

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Response to marble falls (Reply #7)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:09 PM

10. Groucho Marx's perfect summation of Republican politics since....

...at least the Clinton Administration.

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Response to EarnestPutz (Reply #10)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:10 PM

11. Scary, isn't it?

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Response to marble falls (Reply #11)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:18 PM

13. Terrifying. Democrats want to make the country better...

...by making changes. Old school conservatives want to stay in one spot and change nothing. Reagan Republicans want to make changes that benefit the wealthy and increase their wealth. Donald Trump wants to dismantle the good things that we as a society have done because it has cost the shareholders a few bucks.

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Response to EarnestPutz (Reply #13)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:23 PM

14. they don't want change because corruption and ignoring half the population is good for ...

their businesses.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #14)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:27 PM

15. Money. It always comes down to money. If something takes a dollar...

...out of their pocket, they're against it. It doesn't matter what good it may do, they are against it.

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Response to EarnestPutz (Reply #15)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:31 PM

16. It always comes down to piles of money and having more than they can possibly spend ...

in a lifetime. Screw the elderly, screw the young, screw servicemen/women, screw the sick, screw the poor, screw minorities - we just cannot afford them, they ain't "us".

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Response to marble falls (Reply #14)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:58 PM

18. That's not it

Republicans want to tell you how to live your life. If you won’t obey, they have
no problem with letting you die.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #18)

Tue May 21, 2019, 04:12 PM

19. As long as it doesn't eat into the profit margins. They want to sell you cures, not pay for them ...

since 2012 I've been fighting cancer, the two courses of BCG and the interim treatment have cost VA over $150,000 - just for the BCG, the five bladder surgeries and the partial removal of my colon - who knows how much. The next surgery in June will finally remove my bladder, my prostate, and some of my abdominal/groin area lymph nodes. After spending close to a half million to get me cancer free, alive and peeing normal, they're going to spend around another $100,000 to take all of what they were trying save out and I'll be peeing directly from my kidneys into a bag.

There's no doubt in my mind a privately run VA would find a way to keep an over 65 year old unproductive geezer like me from any of that treatment. I would be eating into the profits. Its always about the money - how to get and keep it away from anybody else.

We'll see how Christian any of these simpletons are when the 5% lets them go into the gutter in event of a nation crisis.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 02:51 PM

8. Disappointed not to see my Republican governor state - NH - on that list (nt)

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:00 PM

9. They better be careful.

I bet we could make a ridiculous religious case for almost every disease to be tied to sin of that person or their ancestors. They may not like having their hypertension caused by hate thrown back at them, for example.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:16 PM

12. Is it not also a violation of the Hippocratic Oath?

I mean, really. Used to be Doctors were required by their oath to treat people regardless of extraneous issues.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #12)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:39 AM

24. You never heard of racially-segregated hospital access?

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Response to Hekate (Reply #24)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:19 PM

26. Of course I have, but the principle still applies...

Those were racist times and those were racist organizations, too.

We're trying to move beyond that, they're trying to get back to it.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 03:33 PM

17. Is there a reason California

Isn't a part of this?

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 08:12 PM

21. K&R

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 09:20 PM

22. Another bone-headed Trump administration...

lawsuit that will be struck down by the courts. Does the Jackass in Chief think the court system has nothing better to do than turn down his ignorant bullshit suits every day? The best part of Donnie ended up as a brown stain on Mary Ann's sheets.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #22)

Wed May 22, 2019, 12:20 PM

27. Trump wants to keep the courts busy...

on things that don't relate to him going to jail.

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 01:02 AM

23. And comments from the "Death panel" people...?

<Sound of crickets...>

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Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Wed May 22, 2019, 11:59 AM

25. Why SDNY and not the DC Circuit? nt

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