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Mon May 20, 2019, 11:22 PM

You can offer constructive criticism on Democrats, right?

Not sure where the rules are but I remember that one.

I saw Jerry Nadler in CNN tonight. Constructive criticism...get some energy or step down? Thought he might fall asleep. Seemed dazed and confused. Told Cuomo he hadn't even heard of some big event that happened today.

We are in the fight of our lives. For our country's 'existence as we know it. I swear, if I or my friends, family, collegues thought I was off my game, I would respond and step aside.

Don't bother saying what a great leader and Dem he was/is or what Pelosi was/is. I know that!!! I have admired them for many years.

Don't waste your keystrokes with...they are the greatest and I defer to them. Try and talk about whether or not their strategy is working today, in the world of the monster president.

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Reply You can offer constructive criticism on Democrats, right? (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot May 20 #1
SunSeeker May 20 #4
Grasswire2 May 21 #24
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 #9
ProudLib72 May 21 #19
WheelWalker May 20 #2
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 #7
InAbLuEsTaTe May 20 #3
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 #6
CentralMass May 20 #5
myohmy2 May 20 #8
walkingman May 20 #10
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 #13
Rambling Man May 21 #26
True Blue American May 21 #29
gldstwmn May 20 #11
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 #12
gldstwmn May 20 #16
Control-Z May 21 #20
JI7 May 20 #14
Laura PourMeADrink May 20 #15
gldstwmn May 21 #17
JI7 May 21 #21
watoos May 21 #31
sheshe2 May 21 #18
True Blue American May 21 #30
Laura PourMeADrink May 21 #33
ecstatic May 21 #22
Grasswire2 May 21 #23
Skittles May 21 #25
Rambling Man May 21 #27
Skittles May 21 #34
KG May 21 #28
watoos May 21 #32
Laura PourMeADrink May 21 #35
TwilightZone May 21 #36

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:26 PM

1. Could it be that Nadler seemed slow because he's exhausted from *doing his job*?

He fired off a long, thoroughly-researched letter to the DoJ today, and he probably pulled an all-nighter working on it (yes, I know they have staff attorneys who would have done most of the legwork), or at least supervising it. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but you can be sure damn sure they're not sitting around playing Candy Crush on their phones.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:31 PM

4. If his job exhausts him, that is troubling.

Honestly, he does not look well. But then, neither does the country.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #4)

Tue May 21, 2019, 01:55 AM

24. That has crossed my mind, too.

The job may be difficult for him. I don't know the status of his health.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:39 PM

9. Hope you're right. Hope there's a winning end game

here! I would be so glad to be wrong.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:04 AM

19. Nadler is in the focus group for Candy Crush the Sequel?!?!?

Meh, I think that's more along the lines of Nunes. Maybe a game like "Cows in Space": https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cows-in-space/id330159662?mt=8

Note: every single one of the 16 ratings are from Nunes. It's pathetic!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:27 PM

2. That's not constructive imo. You suggest he drink red bull or leave the arena? Not constructive.

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Response to WheelWalker (Reply #2)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:37 PM

7. Yes, exactly what I was thinking ! Red Bull, like you suggest

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:28 PM

3. I think we can count on Jerry to make smart strategic moves... he's angling to impeach Dolt45

would be my guess. And, I support Jerry wholeheartedly in that effort!


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #3)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:35 PM

6. I sincerely hope so ! He can be our savior!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:33 PM

5. Your mileage may vary

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:39 PM

8. I hear...

...what you're saying and feel the same way...

...we seem to be slow and behind the curve...always reactive instead of proactive...

" We are in the fight of our lives. "

...I couldn't agree with you more and I wish they would share your intensity...

...

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:42 PM

10. What worries me is the nation is acting like a reality TV show. Large crowds in Penn. for Trump

tonight and it seems like a cult. Lots of infighting with us Dems. Somehow the political arena has turned into a "Survivor" series. My country, my state,my neighbors have all gone insane with this tribal BS. I just hope this madness comes to an end soon. I'm not sure that the internet has been such a positive things lately.

Does anyone else feel like this or am I smoking too much pot?

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Response to walkingman (Reply #10)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:48 PM

13. And tonight..

Trump accuses the FBI and Democrats of treason. He then has to pause as his fans chant, "lock them up!"

"We have a great new attorney general who will give it a very fair look," Trump says. 👀

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Response to walkingman (Reply #10)

Tue May 21, 2019, 04:52 AM

29. I do not know about the pot, but

Large crowds? How many were there o see Trump? I know he always exaggerates, they push people together to make the crowd look larger.

There is also the crowd who just love the free entertainment. The group that will flock to see anything as long as it is free. Enjoy listening to Trump rants and lies. They lap it up.also get bored and head out halfway through.

As the teach you in Seminary, 20 minutes, 25 at most, your audience loses interest. The hour, hour and a half rambling loses.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:45 PM

11. I saw the interview and he had

Rushed to it from someplace else. I thought he looked good. He didn't know about the news story because he was busy. He's clearly got his hands full. Cuomo's show comes on at 9 O'clock eastern and if you start at 8 or 9 in the morning that's a pretty long day. Not to mention he's probably got a pretty full schedule tomorrow too. I think tomorrow might be a turning point in this whole thing.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #11)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:47 PM

12. Why? Tomorrow night?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #12)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:57 PM

16. Steve Cohen was on Don Lemon's

Show and confirmed that he and a group of Dems want to begin an impeachment inquiry if McGahn's a no show tomorrow. I believe he called Trump a lawless president.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #11)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:07 AM

20. I do too.

Well, this week sometime.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:53 PM

14. this is the problem with 24 hour news. people need to be entertained

every single moment.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Mon May 20, 2019, 11:56 PM

15. Agree but hardly think this is entertainment. It's misery.

Trump surely isn't slowing down effing the country up.

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Response to JI7 (Reply #14)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:01 AM

17. I don't need to be entertained. I'd

Like the country to survive. It could take years for the courts to resolve some of these issues. We don't have that kind of time. Trump is irreperably harming this country every day he is in office. The Attorney General has far overstepped his bounds. He needs to be removed as well. He must not walk away from this unscathed.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #17)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:18 AM

21. but the problem in the country is not Nadler

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Response to JI7 (Reply #21)

Tue May 21, 2019, 07:12 AM

31. Democrats have lost the narrative to Trump,

thank god for the judges decision on Trump's accounting firm or the M$M will still be leading with abortion, Iran, and immigration, not that those topics aren't important. Trump will of course appeal the judge's decision but I am encouraged by the speed at which this case is proceeding and that is the #1 priority in bringing down Trump. Trump doesn't even want to win the court cases, he just needs them all delayed until after the election.

I feel that Nadler and the heads of other committees should be holding hearings every damn day. The notion that Dems have to worry about overreaching is bs. Subpoena Felix Sater, Corey Lewandowski; subpoena them all to control the freaking narrative.

This is why I have pushed for impeachment hearings. Anyone who says that impeachment hearings don't carry more clout than regular hearings isn't looking at reality. Impeachment hearings shouldn't carry more clout than regular hearings but Trump is refusing to turn over documents and ignoring subpoenas making everything decided in the courts which brings us full circle back to the courts expediting their decisions which Democrats have a better case to make under an impeachment hearing.

Democrats shouldn't just hold an impeachment hearing and then vote to impeach, they should drag out the hearing right up to election time, control the narrative, force the right wing M$M to cover impeachment.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:02 AM

18. That is how Nadler always speaks.

Nancy has an uneven gate when she speaks as well. Their point is not missed by those that listen.

Obama did the same, he paused a lot. Bothered me at first because I was then and have always been his #1 supporter. Finally figured out that he was actually pausing before he answered to THINK before he answered the question.

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #18)

Tue May 21, 2019, 04:55 AM

30. LOL

Think? Oh my, they actually think before answering!

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Response to sheshe2 (Reply #18)

Tue May 21, 2019, 08:12 AM

33. Yes...you are right...thoughtful and very cautious. All

you mention are the antithesis of trump. In my view, the flip side to that is that there are times that call for more urgency, more passion/fire. Otherwise, people move along thinking everything is ok. (Russia interferance in election comes to mind).

I talked to a republican friend the other day, one who isn't crazy. He said, the fact that Dems didn't respond with great urgency when the Mueller report came out signaled to him that they didn't think there was any there there.

No one wants a pants on fire every day prez..for sure. But sometimes it is warranted.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 12:21 AM

22. I didn't see it. Thank Goodness!

I'm with you though. Lead or get out the way!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 01:51 AM

23. I have worried about that, too.

Many of the other House Dems are more strategic and better communicators than Nadler. Schiff is outstanding.

Gotta say, though, that the letter sent under Nadler's name to McGahn is excellent. Firm and forceful and very well reasoned.

I'm sure that staff wrote it, but it is a solid statement with Nadler's signature.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 02:42 AM

25. it is getting tough

in many cases it feels like cultist mentality

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Response to Skittles (Reply #25)

Tue May 21, 2019, 04:05 AM

27. Dear Leader/True Believer bullshit

does not stand the scrutiny of reason.

I read this book more than 30 years ago, I had to read it again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_True_Believer

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Response to Rambling Man (Reply #27)

Tue May 21, 2019, 08:19 AM

34. Wow....exactly

that book wold be worth reading because I have long been mystified by how sooooo many people believe in a lot of bullshit

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Response to Skittles (Reply #25)

Tue May 21, 2019, 04:11 AM

28. if youre not kow-towing, youre bashing.

yep.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 07:16 AM

32. I'm waiting for one of our many presidential candidates

to lead the way punching MF45 in the mouth. He/she needs to be tough as nails though, no Marco Rubio.

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Response to watoos (Reply #32)

Tue May 21, 2019, 08:57 AM

35. I can hear the cautious admonitions now.."Don't even

mention Trump - just talk about what you believe in.". Ugh. Never before has there been a better opponent to be punched in the mouth, like you say. Think you can do both. And should.

Find out what repukes don't like about him a get some zingers. Know they don't like his tweeting. And, they are appalled at his treatment of children at border. What about him saying he wouldn't golf? $$ costing taxpayers for him to go to Mara Lago?

The gold mine though, in my mind, is still his stripping of regulations. "Why did you remove regulation X, Mr President? That regulation protected the water that kids from Michigan swim in ?"

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2019, 10:55 AM

36. "get some energy or step down"

isn't constructive criticism. It's not even in the ballpark.

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