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Wed May 15, 2019, 02:29 PM

U.S. Farmers: We 'Will Never Vote For Trump Again'

Donald Trump is in the middle of a trade war and it is affecting farmers in the United States in a very negative way. Farmers in Iowa have spoken to CNN regarding what Trump’s battles on the trade front have done to their livelihoods. Some of them said outright that they regret their 2016 votes for Trump.

Larry Angler is one such farmer. According to what he told CNN, he could lose nearly $100,000 in 2019. That problem was exacerbated by flooding in the area as well. When reporters inquired about whether or not Mr. Angler voted for Trump in 2016, he responded thusly:
“I did — I’ll never vote for him again!”

Robert Ewoldt is another farmer from Iowa. He is now driving a truck at night due to the way the trade war has affected his farming business. He said of his truck driving job:
“That’s what’s keeping this farm going.”
Ewoldt also said that he regretted voting for Trump in the last presidential election cycle.

It is often said that Trump supporters are unusually loyal. However, this trade war is costing some of those supporters lots of money. Some may even be on the edge of losing their farms altogether. It will be interesting to see if more of Trump’s voters begin to peel away in the wake of all of this.

https://hillreporter.com/u-s-farmers-we-will-never-vote-for-trump-again-35813

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Reply U.S. Farmers: We 'Will Never Vote For Trump Again' (Original post)
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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:31 PM

1. Gop then says "abortion" or "guns" and they're voting R all over again

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:39 PM

3. Yep. Their HATRED of women far outreaches their concerns about eating. Believe it or not.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:57 PM

13. Yep

They are brainwashed to the core.

All it takes is "liberal" and their brains shut down.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:04 PM

16. Absolutely. They'll be pulling that lever for the Maggot in 2020.

As long as he keeps hatin' on the libruls, the blacks, and the Mexicans, they don't care if they're eating out of trash cans and wearing whiskey barrels for clothes. It's all music to their ears.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:14 PM

21. Many will vote on those two issues, but some won't.

Trump can't afford to lose any of them. If he loses only 5% of rural voters, he loses.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:45 PM

24. And don't forget "illegals" and "crime-infested inner city gang-banging welfare cheats"

And they will be lapping it up while their farms float away and their farm equipment, trucks, cars, and houses get repossessed.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:37 PM

31. Just talk about healthcare and losing rural hospitals.

It's happening all over the country! Farmers and ranchers don't have health insurance unless they pay the full cost themselves. There maybe some that are Medicaid but they probably won't admit it. Even if they can afford health insurance what good does it do if the closest hospital or urgent care is one or two hours away? In rural areas Medicaid and Medicare is the greatest source of income.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #1)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:46 PM

34. +1, or non-wight walker

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:34 PM

2. Well, at least that's two.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:41 PM

4. Dumb enough to vote for him once; dumb enough to vote for him again

All he has to do is give the whiners some government handouts.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #4)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:06 PM

35. Remember: windmills are killing bald eagles!

Trumpy will capture the 60 IQ vote with that one.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #35)

Wed May 15, 2019, 07:20 PM

38. You would think he would be all for that since bald eagles hate his guts

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:42 PM

5. Trump and Sen. Tom Cotton believe farmers have a patriotic duty to

suck it up and hope for better times.

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Response to oasis (Reply #5)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:46 PM

6. +1

Your pain is nothing compared to the valiant warriors who gave their lives so you could live in pain!

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Response to oasis (Reply #5)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:56 PM

11. And support the troops, don't forget!

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:52 PM

7. You should not count on Republicans to change their votes...

the will check the R box every time!

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:53 PM

8. Nixon said similiar

statements in the 1960 election run up. As a NFO organizer in North Western Wisconsin,know what it is to be called Commie and unpatriotic by the Republican Party at that point in time. Hey,we knew there would be a day when the Dairy Industry would be taken over by the likes of Dean Foods,Kraft,and Bordens and all those so called Patriotic Farmers would be starved out by the big Corporate 's.

What is wrong with trying to save a industry via or by having a voice. BTW,sold my interest in 1962 and never looked back knowing today would happen.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:53 PM

9. They only thing that counts more than their hate for many is MONEY!

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:56 PM

10. Riiiiiiiiiiiight...

And when the time comes you know between some "baby killing, illegal-appeasing socialist Democrat" and Trump you know who they'll vote for.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:57 PM

12. I saw an interview this morning of a few that are still not giving up on that asshole.

I guess they're gluttons for punishment.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 02:59 PM

14. Driving a truck at night, huh?

And I’m sure he is getting and recording all the proper sleep hours required by law, right?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:01 PM

15. sure, they probably won't have to...at this point they will probably just cancel the election

We'll probably be deep in the shit in Iran by that point, and/or under some kind of escalating "national emergency" related to brown people. I won't be the slightest bit surprised if and when they just announce that all normal everything is cancelled, and the MAGAt-man is just going to be in charge from now on until we get through this rough patch. Or, you know, forever.

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Response to anarch (Reply #15)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:38 PM

32. Getting tired of this conspiracy theory.

Can you point out where in the constitution it says the president can unilaterally shut down an election?

This same conspiracy theory gets tossed about with each president.

Right wingers said Obama was going to cancel the election and the left said George W Bush was going to.

During the height of the Civil War election went on as usual.

During WWII elections went on as usual.

After 9/11 elections when on as usual.

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #32)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:45 PM

33. We have not had a "president," much less a whole party, completely disregard the rule of law before

This is more along the lines of the confederacy...wherein things didn't exactly go along as if everything was all normal.

These fuckers do not care even slightly what the Constitution says. If it suits their purposes come next summer/fall, the GOP would have no qualms whatsoever doing something unprecedented.

Not saying "this is definitely going to happen" and obviously I was pushing the idea to the extreme limit as far as potential scenarios, but don't say nobody told you so if we end up with tanks in the streets at some point under this clown and his criminal "political party."

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:04 PM

17. sorry I don't believe a lot of them

I think they will vote for him again because they will convince themselves that the Democratic candidate is a socialist.

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Response to qazplm135 (Reply #17)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:10 PM

19. ...as they take their socialist bailouts.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:07 PM

18. Well, if they pull the lever for the dotard then they get what they deserve

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:10 PM

20. Someone needs to explain to the farmers that

Americans will still get their food and feed crops. But it will be mega-farming corporations doing the farming after they buy those family farms in bankruptcy. Just like trump and the GOP planned.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:39 PM

22. Glad to hear it, Larry and Robert

Next time somebody warns you about a Republican candidate, perhaps you should pay attention? Tell your friends.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:45 PM

23. with all due respect, go fuck yourselves

you were just fine with the prospect of Trump hurting people - you just never imagined in your wildest dreams it would be YOU

by the way, my grandparents were farmers

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:52 PM

25. Trump pushes for new bailouts for farmers hurt by his trade war

From Vox:

...

During an Oval Office event with Hungary’s far-right leader Viktor Orbán on Monday, Trump outlined a plan to redistribute money from American importers to farmers hurt by his escalating trade war with China that might fall short of socialism, but is certainly a far cry from the values of free markets and free trade traditionally embraced by Republicans.

“Out of the billions of dollars that we’re taking in [from tariffs], a small portion of that will be going to our farmers,” Trump said. “We’re going to take the highest year — the biggest purchase that China has ever made with our farmers, which is about $15 billion — and do something reciprocal to our farmers.”

...


I have to hear what they have to say after they get their payoff.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:53 PM

26. until they get that big bailout check then it will be forgive & forget. nt

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:54 PM

27. The Shitkickers of Texas are exactly like this - dumb as a rock and proud of it.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:03 PM

28. yeah right...

the next great white hope, promising to do the same sh*t will be along at any time now. He'll promise to just eff up the other people, and leave you alone, and you'll believe it.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:23 PM

29. Oh, yes they will.

It is a sorry embarrassment to our country, but these people are so brainwashed by Fox Noise that if they lose their farms and end up as serfs working poisoned fields at megafarms (formerly theirs) now owned by Monsanto, with a life expectancy of 37.6 years due to cancer they cannot afford to have treated, THEY WILL STILL VOTE FOR TRUMP.

Why?

Because MAGA, the God Squad, Hannity's insanity, take your pick.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 05:32 PM

30. Oh bullshit.

Their natural hatred of anyone darker than Danaerys Targaryen will overcome any misgivings they may have about the Tangerine Idi Amin.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:11 PM

36. Cwy me a wiver.

Anyone paying attention has known that MF45 is a con man,
sexual predator, and bully since well before 2016.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 06:42 PM

37. Farmers make bad political pawns.

Large investments in land and machinery and time, limited growing season, can't control the weather, sometimes fickle markets and crop prices, etc. The last thing they need is ignorant politicians making their lives even harder.

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