Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:47 PM May 2019

Entire Methodist confirmation class declines to become members over anti-LGBTQ policies

The entire confirmation class at First United Methodist Church in Omaha, Nebraska announced to their congregation that they have decided not to become members due to the church’s stance on LGBTQ issues.

The teenaged would-be members read an open letter in front of the congregation to explain why they couldn’t support discrimination despite the church’s recent controversial decision to crackdown on LGBTQ clergy and marriage equality.


The eight teenagers received a standing ovation from the congregation for their decision to stand up for Christian values in the face of systemic discrimination.


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2019/04/entire-methodist-confirmation-class-declines-become-members-anti-lgbtq-policies/

This event happened a couple of weeks ago. If it was posted here on DU I missed it.

Go kids.

36 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Entire Methodist confirmation class declines to become members over anti-LGBTQ policies (Original Post) DURHAM D May 2019 OP
Always Nice CDerekGo May 2019 #1
Pick any major issue. SCVDem May 2019 #2
Everything except voting LiberalLovinLug May 2019 #14
New young voters DownriverDem May 2019 #35
I'm surprised at the Methodist taking that stance. I always thought they were one of the more Fla Dem May 2019 #3
Me too. Not sure what happened but that is what the grads are reacting to. Rightly so. Evolve Dammit May 2019 #4
this is what happened study war no more May 2019 #23
The older evangelical-types in the denomination Ilsa May 2019 #8
American Methodists were for being inclusive. DURHAM D May 2019 #9
Hi Durham! I was writing when your post hit. yardwork May 2019 #13
It should split and it would not be the first time. DURHAM D May 2019 #16
Splitting often hinges on the stuff. yardwork May 2019 #33
It was the African and Asian members who voted for discrimination. yardwork May 2019 #12
And from what I understand ... Blue_playwright May 2019 #17
Good for them - but it's not the US church that drove this. LisaM May 2019 #5
Thanks for clarifying. Fla Dem May 2019 #6
That's good to know. kag May 2019 #11
No, it's excellent, and it sounds like the congregation backed them up. LisaM May 2019 #19
Lots of Methodist churches to pick from. safeinOhio May 2019 #7
It seems like the 'Methodists' are starting to split into two branches. keithbvadu2 May 2019 #10
You go, kids! MineralMan May 2019 #15
I applaud their decision patphil May 2019 #18
Wonderful.. mountain grammy May 2019 #20
eggscllent AllaN01Bear May 2019 #21
Our nearest neighbor is a Methodist Church Camp...run by a great family.... samnsara May 2019 #22
K&R Kurt V. May 2019 #24
My great niece did the same thing. Mickju May 2019 #25
Good for her. DURHAM D May 2019 #27
As a native Nebraskan jayschool2013 May 2019 #36
Love these kids... dawg day May 2019 #26
Best news I have heard in a while. NT. warmfeet May 2019 #28
Good For Them colsohlibgal May 2019 #29
I think they will need to split in order to fix this. DURHAM D May 2019 #30
Good. The Methodist Church will need to hurt before it can heal. BigDemVoter May 2019 #31
churches are for 'pastors' preachers kiri May 2019 #32
I attended a Methodist church radical noodle May 2019 #34
 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
2. Pick any major issue.
Wed May 15, 2019, 02:45 PM
May 2019

And the young shall lead!

Hell, we knew Vietnam and the MIC were bullshit in our day.

Good job 'kids'!

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
35. New young voters
Thu May 16, 2019, 08:58 AM
May 2019

helped with the midterms. They can be a tremendous help in defeating trump. I've been waiting since reagan for the country to change. Little did I know that it would take a new generation to help us out.

Fla Dem

(23,637 posts)
3. I'm surprised at the Methodist taking that stance. I always thought they were one of the more
Wed May 15, 2019, 02:45 PM
May 2019

"liberal" Protestant religions.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
8. The older evangelical-types in the denomination
Wed May 15, 2019, 03:15 PM
May 2019

(probably mostly ex-Southern Baptists) ran roughshod over the rest of the representatives at the national conference a few months ago.

I know lots of kind, generous, talented, godly Methodists who are rethinking their association, and trying to devise a plan to undo the latest circular firing squad. The churches cannot survive continued discrimination.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
9. American Methodists were for being inclusive.
Wed May 15, 2019, 03:16 PM
May 2019

Methodists from Africa and the Philippines were against. The church will probably split over this issue. They will survive.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
16. It should split and it would not be the first time.
Wed May 15, 2019, 03:50 PM
May 2019

They split in 1844 over slavery. All the local Methodist ministers (6) seem ready to move into the 21st century.

Note: I have sources inside the church. I am not a member of any organized religion.





yardwork

(61,588 posts)
33. Splitting often hinges on the stuff.
Wed May 15, 2019, 08:33 PM
May 2019

Conservative Episcopalian dioceses threatened to leave when the church recognized equal marriages, but most haven't left. They found out that they would have to leave behind their sterling chalices and gold altar pieces and chapels on prime real estate. Cause nothing says "we follow Christ" like showing off the stuff.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
12. It was the African and Asian members who voted for discrimination.
Wed May 15, 2019, 03:18 PM
May 2019

The bigots who are no longer getting much traction in the U.S. are taking their message of hate abroad.

The dioceses in the U.S. are mostly in favor of equality.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
17. And from what I understand ...
Wed May 15, 2019, 04:01 PM
May 2019

The African congregations insisted that they retain the option of polygamy. But we didn’t get our liberal requirements. 🤷🏻?♀️

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
5. Good for them - but it's not the US church that drove this.
Wed May 15, 2019, 02:56 PM
May 2019

It's because of the much more conservative international Methodists (particularly from Africa) and my Methodist friends were absolutely devastated (one of them is in the clergy). I don't know if they'll eventually swing the more conservative Methodists back, or if there will be a schism. But I know that the majority of American Methodists didn't want this.

kag

(4,079 posts)
11. That's good to know.
Wed May 15, 2019, 03:16 PM
May 2019

Still, it's nice to see young people taking a stand. Especially one that, for them, was probably very difficult.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
19. No, it's excellent, and it sounds like the congregation backed them up.
Wed May 15, 2019, 04:16 PM
May 2019

I'm following this all with interest.

safeinOhio

(32,661 posts)
7. Lots of Methodist churches to pick from.
Wed May 15, 2019, 03:14 PM
May 2019

Methodists are members of denominations which are part of the international World Methodist Council, an association of 80 Methodist, Wesleyan and related united and uniting churches, representing over 80 million people.

Churches split all the time on issues like this.

patphil

(6,164 posts)
18. I applaud their decision
Wed May 15, 2019, 04:05 PM
May 2019

It's good to see young people take a stand for true Christian values.
I've always seen the Methodists as being much more in line with the teachings of Jesus than some of the other sects.

Patrick Phillips

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
22. Our nearest neighbor is a Methodist Church Camp...run by a great family....
Wed May 15, 2019, 04:26 PM
May 2019

...we first met them when the kids were in grade school.. they are off and married now! The church camp published a letter to the Editor in the local paper rejecting the stance the church took and stated the church camp stands with their LGBTQ brothers and sisters. I hope the church doesnt decide this cpl needs to 'retire'.

Mickju

(1,800 posts)
25. My great niece did the same thing.
Wed May 15, 2019, 06:53 PM
May 2019

She was the only one in the group to do so at her church in Norman, OK.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
36. As a native Nebraskan
Thu May 16, 2019, 12:26 PM
May 2019

I can say we get it right more often than not, at least in the cities of Lincoln and Omaha.

Voting for president ... not so much.

Peace, wherever you're from.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
29. Good For Them
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:30 PM
May 2019

This whole situation surprised me, I saw Methodists as one of the churches far, far removed from the blow torch and snakes types, as a more accepting and rational sect.

I would hope that less rabid Methodist leaders move to reverse course.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
30. I think they will need to split in order to fix this.
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:50 PM
May 2019

I have been asking around about who gets the real estate.

kiri

(794 posts)
32. churches are for 'pastors' preachers
Wed May 15, 2019, 08:00 PM
May 2019

I grew up amongst Methodists, Church of Christ, Catholics, and {gasp!} Unitarians.
They all claimed to be the one true 'faith' and path to salvation--whatever that meant--except for the UUs.

At age 12 I figured out that they could not all be right. And tithing was just to pay the minister's Mercedes car.

I have only rarely stepped foot in a church ever since, except to support some UU Humanists.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
34. I attended a Methodist church
Thu May 16, 2019, 12:36 AM
May 2019

until I was grown. My mother was very active in the church, so I was there often. I got my liberal views from the Methodist Church, both locally and at conferences and workshops... and this was in Indiana.

Oh, and the minister drove a very old Chevy.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Entire Methodist confirma...