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Wed May 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

He.Is. Simply.The. Pits




https://scri.siena.edu/2019/02/13/sienas-6th-presidential-expert-poll-1982-2018/

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

1. He has the biggest numbers!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 01:06 PM

2. From the OP link

Loudonville, NY – For the sixth time since its inception in 1982, the Siena College Research Institute’s (SCRI) Survey of U.S. Presidents finds that experts rank Franklin D. Roosevelt, Teddy Roosevelt, Abe Lincoln, Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as the United States’ top five chief executives. The 157 participating presidential scholars for the first time name Washington as number one with FDR second, Lincoln third, Teddy Roosevelt fourth and Jefferson fifth. Donald Trump enters the survey as the 42nd rated president, and he joins Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Warren Harding and Franklin Pierce in the bottom five. Dwight Eisenhower moved up to sixth, the highest ranking he has ever achieved, while Ronald Reagan was up five spots to 13th, and George W. Bush was up six places but remains in 33rd place. Barack Obama slipped two spots to 17th, Bill Clinton dropped to 15th from 13th, and Andrew Jackson fell five places to 19th.

“The top five, Mount Rushmore plus FDR, is carved in granite with presidential historians who have ranked the presidents for Siena six times since 1982 always just after a new president has had one year in office. But five through ten has seen some jockeying for position over the last 37 years. Eisenhower wasn’t even in the top ten in ’82 or ’90, but after one eighth place and two times at tenth, Ike has jumped to the sixth spot just out of the vaunted top five. And JFK has rejoined the top ten after two misses while Woodrow Wilson has dropped from eighth to 11th ” according to Don Levy, SCRI’s director.

“While other ‘moderns’ are highly rated, including Truman at ninth this year and six straight times in the top ten and Kennedy, tenth this year and back in the top ten after narrowly missing in the last two surveys, no president that has served since Kennedy is considered one of our ten best,” according to Doug Lonnstrom, SCRI’s founding director and one of the survey’s originators.

“The serving president has entered the survey between 15th , Obama, and 23rd , G.W. Bush, as scholars begin to observe their accomplishments, assess their abilities and study their attributes. This year, Donald Trump enters the survey at 42nd, and he is only ranked outside of the bottom five in two of the twenty categories that scholars use to assess the presidents, ‘luck’ and ‘willingness to take risks,’” said Levy.


The rankings make more sense when we realize that the survey is taken among the nation's top 157 presidential scholars. It's not a "political" poll, but rather an academic/historic survey.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #2)

Wed May 15, 2019, 01:23 PM

3. Thanks.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #2)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:00 PM

4. Thanks. I was very curious why this didn't reconcile with his approval numbers. nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:01 PM

5. Sometimes I wish he actually knew how to read...

So there might be a chance that he would see this. He, of course, never will.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:04 PM

6. A complete rejection of everything Fox News has been propagating since inception.

So America, who are you going to trust, history and what you know is true or Fox Noise?

Democrats are overachievers and republicans are the dunce cap kid in the corner. Don't vote for republicans, ever. EVER!

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Response to ffr (Reply #6)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:06 PM

7. Shhhh!!! TV!

Man fall down. Funny!

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:07 PM

8. Wow, Trump is wrong on everything!

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Response to Initech (Reply #8)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:22 PM

10. The only one close to tRump was Bush 2.

Clinton and Obama score big.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #10)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:34 PM

11. Both products of Fox News (Chump and Bush 2).

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Maybe Fox News is the real problem here?

And while I'm no fan of Bush 2, unlike Chump, Bush 2 at least had *SOME* integrity didn't gut our institutions the way Chump is doing.

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Response to Initech (Reply #11)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:44 PM

12. Step away from the crack pipe! W didn't have integrity! He did have more integrity than fuckface.

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Response to Lucky Luciano (Reply #12)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:25 PM

14. Well, compared to Chump, anyone has integrity.

Bush 2 had *SOME*, but then again that's the keyword there.

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Wed May 15, 2019, 04:47 PM

15. Tr&*p is number ONE at lowering the bar! Agreed! nt

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:19 PM

9. How is Chump better on our democracy than Tricky Dick?

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Response to Hassler (Reply #9)

Wed May 15, 2019, 03:50 PM

13. Because Nixon largely paid tribute to democratic norms in his public speeches.

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