Tue May 14, 2019, 11:24 AM
DemocratSinceBirth (96,669 posts)
"I own the Red Hen restaurant that asked Sarah Sanders to leave. Resistance isn't futile."![]() Stephanie Wilkinson is the co-owner of the Red Hen in Lexington, Va. ‘‘Hello Intolerant, intellectually-challenged, psychotic, socialists!
Your so-called business is in jeopardy. Rest assured this is not a threat but simply a warning that predicts your downfall. . . . When your treasonist hypocrite lowlife Obama took our nation into despair (for 8 yrs) we didn’t do or say the things you do. Get over it, before it’s too late! BTW, there are a lot more of us than there are of you.’’ I’ve been getting hate mail for almost a year now, ever since I asked White House press secretary Sarah Sanders to leave my Lexington, Va., restaurant, the Red Hen, last June. At the time, the country was in turmoil over the Trump administration’s heinous practice of separating children from their parents at our southern border. In our tiny 26-seat restaurant, the horror felt simultaneously immediate and far away. ... When we opened after a 10-day hiatus, our dining room was full. In the following weeks, people who had never been to the Shenandoah Valley traveled out of their way to eat with us. Hundreds of orders for our Red Hen spice blend poured in. And the love spread far beyond our door, as supporters sent thousands of dollars’ in donations in our honor to our local food pantry, our domestic violence shelter and first responders. After nearly a year, I’m happy to say that business is still good. Better than good, actually. And besides the boost to our area charities, our town’s hospitality and sales revenue have gone up, too. ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-own-the-red-hen-restaurant-that-asked-sarah-sanders-to-leave-resistance-isnt-futile/2019/05/14/125b4742-75a8-11e9-b7ae-390de4259661_story.html?utm_term=.41f1351e9cc5
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Author | Time | Post |
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DemocratSinceBirth | May 2019 | OP |
underpants | May 2019 | #1 | |
calimary | May 2019 | #72 | |
Cirque du So-What | May 2019 | #2 | |
HAB911 | May 2019 | #3 | |
USALiberal | May 2019 | #9 | |
Blue Owl | May 2019 | #4 | |
GusBob | May 2019 | #5 | |
Hangingon | May 2019 | #23 | |
tymorial | May 2019 | #6 | |
Cold War Spook | May 2019 | #7 | |
Bonx | May 2019 | #8 | |
Ron Obvious | May 2019 | #10 | |
USALiberal | May 2019 | #11 | |
pandr32 | May 2019 | #20 | |
GusBob | May 2019 | #14 | |
SoCalDem | May 2019 | #54 | |
GusBob | May 2019 | #13 | |
DeminPennswoods | May 2019 | #38 | |
hughee99 | May 2019 | #15 | |
spooky3 | May 2019 | #21 | |
hughee99 | May 2019 | #53 | |
mac56 | May 2019 | #16 | |
More_Cowbell | May 2019 | #17 | |
lunatica | May 2019 | #18 | |
TheBlackAdder | May 2019 | #19 | |
GoneOffShore | May 2019 | #22 | |
tenderfoot | May 2019 | #24 | |
Cold War Spook | May 2019 | #42 | |
LanternWaste | May 2019 | #25 | |
oasis | May 2019 | #27 | |
barbtries | May 2019 | #30 | |
CaptainTruth | May 2019 | #31 | |
Jake Stern | May 2019 | #33 | |
Fortinbras Armstrong | May 2019 | #70 | |
Tarc | May 2019 | #40 | |
Scoopster | May 2019 | #41 | |
John Fante | May 2019 | #46 | |
AdamGG | May 2019 | #47 | |
LisaM | May 2019 | #59 | |
JonLP24 | May 2019 | #67 | |
PoindexterOglethorpe | May 2019 | #60 | |
klook | May 2019 | #62 | |
BlueWI | May 2019 | #66 | |
mwb970 | May 2019 | #71 | |
Botany | May 2019 | #12 | |
stonecutter357 | May 2019 | #26 | |
johannsyah | May 2019 | #28 | |
Wounded Bear | May 2019 | #29 | |
Botany | May 2019 | #34 | |
spanone | May 2019 | #32 | |
Gothmog | May 2019 | #35 | |
GusBob | May 2019 | #36 | |
SoCalDem | May 2019 | #56 | |
Cha | May 2019 | #69 | |
DesertRat | May 2019 | #37 | |
DeminPennswoods | May 2019 | #39 | |
NoMoreRepugs | May 2019 | #43 | |
Cold War Spook | May 2019 | #44 | |
John Fante | May 2019 | #48 | |
GusBob | May 2019 | #51 | |
GusBob | May 2019 | #50 | |
SoCalDem | May 2019 | #57 | |
Brother Buzz | May 2019 | #58 | |
SoCalDem | May 2019 | #64 | |
Brother Buzz | May 2019 | #65 | |
hibbing | May 2019 | #45 | |
John Fante | May 2019 | #49 | |
RandySF | May 2019 | #52 | |
smirkymonkey | May 2019 | #55 | |
LiberalLovinLug | May 2019 | #61 | |
Hulk | May 2019 | #63 | |
JonLP24 | May 2019 | #68 |
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:28 AM
underpants (161,466 posts)
1. That place is always packed
Really really good from what I hear.
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Response to underpants (Reply #1)
Wed May 15, 2019, 01:03 PM
calimary (62,176 posts)
72. Sounds like virtue rewarded, to me.
If I were a local, I’d be happy to eat there.
Vote with your voice/Vote with your pocketbook. |
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:30 AM
Cirque du So-What (18,131 posts)
2. If it were local to me,
I'd go at least once a week.
This is the DU member formerly known as Cirque du So-What.
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:31 AM
HAB911 (6,443 posts)
3. I bought a $100.00 gift card from them
and told them not to send it to me, to use it as they saw fit
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Response to HAB911 (Reply #3)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:07 PM
USALiberal (7,695 posts)
9. So nice of you!!!!!!!!! +1000
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:35 AM
Blue Owl (33,859 posts)
4. No Red Hats in the Red Hen!!!
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:48 AM
GusBob (6,598 posts)
5. Gonna order somma that spice!
yep
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Response to GusBob (Reply #5)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:43 PM
Hangingon (2,850 posts)
23. Does this cover the little old ladies in purple dresses?
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 11:56 AM
tymorial (3,336 posts)
6. If I.lived down there, we would eat there and order from them often.
We are all in this together and we must stand up to tyranny.
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:01 PM
Cold War Spook (1,279 posts)
7. What is the difference between refusing service to any one who votes for the opposition party
and refusing service to any one of a different color? DUers don't have to eat at a Chick-Fil-A but I have never heard of a gay couple being refused service. I do not believe that a business that is doing business with the public has a right to refuse service based on religion, color, gender or politics. I put in politics because it is like religion, a choice.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:05 PM
Bonx (1,778 posts)
8. it's different when the good guys refuse the bad guys.
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:12 PM
Ron Obvious (5,777 posts)
10. I agree with you.
This is silly.
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Response to Ron Obvious (Reply #10)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:14 PM
USALiberal (7,695 posts)
11. No, it is not, she is evil and a liar. Kick out dems like her too. Nt
Response to USALiberal (Reply #11)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:31 PM
pandr32 (7,418 posts)
20. She has no place in polite society
Villains are villains...period.
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Response to Ron Obvious (Reply #10)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:19 PM
GusBob (6,598 posts)
14. What part is silly? the death threats? the arson threats? the ruin your job parts?
that sounds serious to me
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Response to GusBob (Reply #14)
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:47 PM
SoCalDem (103,856 posts)
54. You are right... Sara needs to talk to her boss
and get him to stop enabling MAGAs to perpetrate their vile deeds.. He ruins people's jobs with every vile tweet..and Dems are not the ones burning churches ..
She should be cooking her own meals anyway ![]() ![]() |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:18 PM
GusBob (6,598 posts)
13. Thats a fair question
I think the distinction here is that you are not refusing service to all of the group, just their most visible face. (whom just happened to be defending putting kids in cages at the time, perhaps your other customers would not like that spoiling their meals.)
The other thing is: refusing service could cost you your business or your safety, but that did not happen. The point of the editorial is that her business is fine, so no harm no foul. Sarah went somewhere else to eat |
Response to GusBob (Reply #13)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:29 PM
DeminPennswoods (12,103 posts)
38. IIRC, they did not refuse her service
The staff went to the owner and said they were not comfortable serving SHS and her family. The owner politely asked them to leave and the Sanders' did. I suppose if they'd said they intended to stay, they would have been served.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:21 PM
hughee99 (16,113 posts)
15. While I don't like it, a business owner can refuse service to any individual.
I think the owner of the Red Hen was wrong to follow her party to the NEXT restaurant they went to after leaving as requested.
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Response to hughee99 (Reply #15)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:33 PM
spooky3 (27,105 posts)
21. Not based on an impermissible category, such as race, gender. etc.
Response to spooky3 (Reply #21)
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:27 PM
hughee99 (16,113 posts)
53. That's why I said "individual".
This owner kicked Sanders out, but no one is going to argue that it’s because Sanders is a woman.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:22 PM
mac56 (17,333 posts)
16. Read the article.
"Any one who votes for the opposition party" wasn't being refused service. It's a false equivalence.
An individual was refused service, because her work in the Trump administration negatively impacted her employees. She was NOT turned away for being a member of a marginalized community. No laws protect people who make their living by apologizing for the authoritarian tendencies of former reality TV stars who now hold high office. Unlike her targets, Sarah can simply walk away. She is not required to be a spokesperson for authoritarianism. If she quit tomorrow, she could walk into a cushy job elsewhere. |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:23 PM
More_Cowbell (2,004 posts)
17. The difference is that political party isn't a federal or VA protected characteristic. nt
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:29 PM
lunatica (51,949 posts)
18. You would serve to someone who champions putting children in cages?
Asking Sarah Sanders to leave was about that. Not about all the other inane stuff you listed.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:29 PM
TheBlackAdder (20,303 posts)
19. Answer: You have no choice in birth, but you do have a choice to be an asshole and harm others.
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:33 PM
GoneOffShore (15,499 posts)
22. Politics is not a protected class. Religion is.
So, please, stop.
It's like refusing service if someone walked in wearing swastika's or Klan robes. 'No shirt, no shoes, no service'. 'Klan robes? MAGA hats? Swastika's? No service.' |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:44 PM
tenderfoot (5,614 posts)
24. Refusing service to people without shoes or shirts is wrong!
eom
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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #24)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:10 PM
Cold War Spook (1,279 posts)
42. I have often wondered
what if you wore only a shirt and shoes.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:47 PM
LanternWaste (36,970 posts)
25. Refusing service to an individual is not "refusing service...
Refusing service to an individual predicated wholly on her own personality and actions is not "refusing service to any one who votes for the opposition party.
That's the relevant and critical difference. But you won't allow yourself either the nuance or the context to perceive that. And what your belief is in regards to lawful vs unlawful discrimination is irrelevant to both the law and to the restaurant owner's actions. |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:52 PM
oasis (47,093 posts)
27. No Shirt, No Shoes, No Sarah.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:06 PM
barbtries (24,809 posts)
30. the damage sanders and the entire trump cabal
goes so much deeper than voting for the other side!
locking up babies separating families transgender ban owned by putin tax scam tariff boondoggle fake emergency propaganda and constant lying to the american people ignoring climate change propagating worse climate change usurping public lands for private gains worst cabinet in my lifetime at least destroying relationships with allies now they're using the justice department to go after trump's political enemies. they're destroying democracy. come on. |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:07 PM
CaptainTruth (3,394 posts)
31. To me, the difference is that Sanders was refused service because of her conduct, her actions.
Lying to the American people is a behavioral choice, it's different than characteristics you're born with (like skin color) or matters of faith (like religion). I would say Sanders was refused service because of her objectionable behavior, not because of her political party, religion, or skin color. |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:09 PM
Jake Stern (3,143 posts)
33. My gay brother LOVES Chick-fil-a
On the other hand our mom is so serious about her boycott of them that she made me leave my soda outside on the porch because it was in a C-F-A cup. I think it's ridiculous personally but I don't question her sincerity.
To each their own. . . . ![]() |
Response to Jake Stern (Reply #33)
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:38 AM
Fortinbras Armstrong (4,219 posts)
70. I'm with your mother. n/t
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:34 PM
Tarc (9,900 posts)
40. Thanks for you "concern"
Move on, now.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:09 PM
Scoopster (423 posts)
41. Easy - the difference is behavior.
Skin color isn't a behavior. Being a fascist douchebag who offends people on a daily basis is.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:25 PM
John Fante (3,475 posts)
46. Sarah Sanders spews propoganda for this despicable administration.
She does far more than "vote for the opposition party".
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:29 PM
AdamGG (783 posts)
47. She wasn't kicked out for her political beliefs...
She was kicked out for the criminal actions that she is actively involved in propagandizing. Should Joseph McCarthy have been refused service when he was at the height of his bullshit?
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:08 PM
LisaM (26,093 posts)
59. I agree with you, too.
This whole thing made me really uncomfortable. If you don't like when someone won't serve or cater to liberals, then you can't think it's okay when someone won't serve conservatives. I don't like Sarah Huckabee Sanders either, but she has a right to go out in public with her family. As does the gay, mixed-race family who lives next door.
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Response to LisaM (Reply #59)
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:46 AM
JonLP24 (27,672 posts)
67. It isn't like she was a rando with a blog
I think it had more to do with child seperation policy than whether she was a liberal or a conservative.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:38 PM
PoindexterOglethorpe (19,026 posts)
60. She was targeted, that is asked to leave, because of who
specifically she is. She wasn't profiled as a member of a group. There is a very large difference.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:05 PM
klook (10,052 posts)
62. Intolerance
of assholery makes the world a better place.
I’ll look forward to dining at the Red Hen when I visit the area. |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Wed May 15, 2019, 12:08 AM
BlueWI (1,736 posts)
66. A different color?
Are we still in the 19th century?
And here is one easy difference to get: one of these is illegal, violating civil rights law, and one is not. Need any hints for which is which? |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #7)
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:56 AM
mwb970 (10,649 posts)
71. This is not "the opposition party".
These are destroyers of America. They deserve nothing from normal Americans. NOTHING.
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:17 PM
Botany (59,198 posts)
12. "After nearly a year, I'm happy to say that business is still good. Better than good, actually."
n/t
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:52 PM
stonecutter357 (12,166 posts)
26. K&R
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:54 PM
johannsyah (53 posts)
28. irony, irony much
right wingers discriminate against minorities :
"it's religious freedom" left wingers do it so against right wingers: "you intolerant socialist!" |
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 12:57 PM
Wounded Bear (43,984 posts)
29. They do not out-number us...
we must always remember that. Trump LOST the popular vote.
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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #29)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:13 PM
Botany (59,198 posts)
34. And that 16 million voters were purged prior to the 2016 election too.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:08 PM
spanone (125,975 posts)
32. K&R...
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:13 PM
Gothmog (93,718 posts)
35. For Red Hen Owner, Not Serving Huckabee Sanders Eventually Helped Business
Response to Gothmog (Reply #35)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:25 PM
GusBob (6,598 posts)
36. She's brave hey?
After all the threats to bring this back up, put her name and business out on the line
I don't know if I would risk it a second time around, to flaunt the empty threats from last time |
Response to GusBob (Reply #36)
SoCalDem This message was self-deleted by its author.
Response to Gothmog (Reply #35)
Wed May 15, 2019, 07:30 AM
Cha (270,185 posts)
69. She did what she
and her employees thought was right.. and Booom!
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:25 PM
DesertRat (27,904 posts)
37. k&r
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 01:32 PM
DeminPennswoods (12,103 posts)
39. As it turns out, there are more of us than there
are of them (the cretins who keep sending hate mail to the Red Hen owner).
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:16 PM
NoMoreRepugs (5,583 posts)
43. "Treasonist, hypocrite, low-life Obama" - hmmmmmm, I
think we have some insight here into the inner workings of the Deplorable mind. They believe what Rushbo and Hannity spew and don't care to live in the real world. Sorry, but anyone who thinks there's any reason whatsoever to give a shit about these people and try to find some middle ground going forward is living in a fantasy world not dissimilar to the Deplorables.
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:21 PM
Cold War Spook (1,279 posts)
44. You are bad as the Republicans
Too much hate. I am 75 and don't need this. I grew up in a different time. Bye Bye. Write whatever you want, I am deleting now. I hope this isn't banned before it is read.
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #44)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:31 PM
John Fante (3,475 posts)
48. Sarah Sanders appreciates your support.
Response to John Fante (Reply #48)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:58 PM
GusBob (6,598 posts)
51. Bet ya a buck he's back in a week
eom
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Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #44)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:57 PM
GusBob (6,598 posts)
50. It seems as if you got it all backwards Cold War Spook
You seem to be the hateful one here. And your posts have not been well thought out
In this context, the restaurant owner and SHS came to a mutual agreement, politely and without rancor. No violence, no confrontation. Yet the restaurant owner received threats of violence and hate from republicans. And messages of hope and support from Democrats AND YOU are some claiming we are AS BAD as them. Really? Sheer fucking ignorance Good bye |
Response to Cold War Spook (Reply #44)
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:54 PM
SoCalDem (103,856 posts)
57. Honey are you lost?
Response to SoCalDem (Reply #57)
Tue May 14, 2019, 04:05 PM
Brother Buzz (29,223 posts)
58. Damn, how did you hook up that link to the photograph?
I want that in my ditty bag
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Response to Brother Buzz (Reply #58)
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:49 PM
SoCalDem (103,856 posts)
64. easy peasy
replace the parenthesis with square brackets and eliminate spaces in links
(link:http:// www. freerepublic.com/|http://kidsvancouver.com/sites/default/files/users/Cathy/lost-child. jpg) |
Response to SoCalDem (Reply #64)
Tue May 14, 2019, 08:02 PM
Brother Buzz (29,223 posts)
65. Cool beans!
I remember doing that years ago, but only for text. It's cool to see it works with a jpg.
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:23 PM
hibbing (8,507 posts)
45. Obama took our nation into despair (for 8 yrs)
So blinded by their hatred and racism they can actually say that with a straight face. It is quite sad.
Peace |
Response to hibbing (Reply #45)
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:33 PM
John Fante (3,475 posts)
49. Obama took the country from the depths of the Great Recession
to full fucking employment, something St. Ronnie never achieved.
He's the best president since FDR at least. |
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:01 PM
RandySF (36,659 posts)
52. I would have taken her money and give it to a progressive cause.
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 03:51 PM
smirkymonkey (58,906 posts)
55. Good for them!
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 05:04 PM
LiberalLovinLug (12,572 posts)
61. Let that be a lesson to Nancy and the top Democrats. ie...Impeachment
Its a good analogy.
Sure you will get a lot of hate mail. A surge of threats. Even perhaps some actual dangerous attempts at harm at first. Fox News will be screaming louder than usual. But the longer time goes on if they go ahead, and begin the process to kick Trump out of the restaurant (impeach the bastard) , the more the public becomes aware through access of information that an impeachment hearing would garner, will eventually restore the truth, dignity, and "success" of the White House. |
Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Tue May 14, 2019, 07:09 PM
Hulk (6,277 posts)
63. It's on my list of must visit restaurants if and when we ever get near there
A historical landmark!
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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Original post)
Wed May 15, 2019, 05:32 AM
JonLP24 (27,672 posts)
68. K&R
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