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Wed May 8, 2019, 04:58 PM

Here it Fucking Goes.. The same goddamn old shit.

A fucking leader of a country who is in trouble with the electorate or general population... In order to keep control of his/her power..At the expense of thousands of young men over..... bullshit..

After all when at war criticism of the Leader of that country (Trump) can not be criticized! for if they do they will be slammed with shame ( 'You don't support our boys in combat"?)

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-how-the-war-between-america-and-iran-will-start-1.7215695?fbclid=IwAR3pNRMNoetrxH3nK8THIJUSd0Tb4cEsMni8gj0xvNllH4E8i4sPWZtBHdw

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Reply Here it Fucking Goes.. The same goddamn old shit. (Original post)
busterbrown May 8 OP
global1 May 8 #1
busterbrown May 8 #2
3Hotdogs May 8 #4
RKP5637 May 8 #3
Caliman73 May 8 #6
RKP5637 May 8 #7
lame54 May 8 #5

Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2019, 05:02 PM

1. I Look At This Differently.....

If he starts a war just to keep control of his power - he is endangering the lives of countless military that he is putting in harms way for his own wants.

I wouldn't hesitate criticizing him for doing that and would feel no shame. If anyone should feel shame it should be he who puts us in that situation and his Party that circles the wagons for him.

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Response to global1 (Reply #1)

Wed May 8, 2019, 05:06 PM

2. Nope!!! Though Correct!

Bush did it and never had a problem.. So did Nixon... Never lost an election.. " We are stopping Communism
from booting around the World"

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Response to busterbrown (Reply #2)

Wed May 8, 2019, 05:12 PM

4. Yeah, fuckin' commies and their card carrying, fellow travelers. Fuck Them.

Yes, Agnes, its sarcasm.

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2019, 05:08 PM

3. Same Old Shit over and over again. Why are people so fucken dumb to fall for this

crap.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #3)

Wed May 8, 2019, 07:25 PM

6. Fear and Jingoism

The emotion overrides logic and the jingoism reinforces the idea the we are strong and the might makes right. They are very powerful forces.

During WWII when there was an actual threat to the United States security from Japan and from Germany had they had better success in Europe, I could see the idea of having to support the administration and the troops. It was a win it or die type of war. In every military action since then, it has been bullshit.

Vietnam was NEVER a threat to the US. The argument was the Domino effect, but we know the the North only adapted a communist ideology to enlist the support of the USSR and China to kick out the French and later the US. Communism did not spread all accross Asia like they said.

The action in Afghanistan was supposedly to get Bin Laden then turned into punishing the Taliban, now, were just there. Iraq was over lies about WMDs. Both were manipulations over fear of terrorism without even asking the question about why there was terrorism in the first place.

Fear. And this idea the the US is about spreading democracy. Yes, that is why we support Saudi Arabia in Yemen because Saudi Arabia is a shining beacon of democracy in the Middle East.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #6)

Wed May 8, 2019, 09:10 PM

7. Thanks!

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Response to busterbrown (Original post)

Wed May 8, 2019, 07:12 PM

5. Canadian Bacon

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