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Democrats and Republicans must put our Country above their Party.
Last night, on the Lawrence O'Donnell program, Professor Lawrence Tribe made a comment about being "too cautious can lead to cowardice and cowardice can lead to betrayal". He was directing his comments to the Democrats in Congress. He was basically saying that they should do what the Constitution requires them to do.
However, he did say that there was a process that they need to go thru. They need the hearings and the documents, in order to do their jobs.
The Republicans crave power more than anything, except maybe money? They usually see the two as intertwined. They are not just supporters of Donald Trump. They are accomplices and complicit in his crimes, whether it be obstruction or perjury. In no way can we accept the degree of corruptness now worming its way thru the once-great political Party.
It is always easier to see the speck in our neighbor's eye than the log in our own.
We can clearly see the disqualifying crimes and transgressions of the Republican Party. But to look at ourselves can be a little more difficult.
But, I think we should heed the words of Lawrence Tribe. Yes, we should be cautious, but not too cautious, less we become cowards. That would only happen if we believed that winning the next election is more important than following the Constitution and doing the right thing.
I think what Elizabeth Warren did yesterday on the Senate floor was admirable. She gave an impassioned speech in which she said that impeachment proceedings should begin today. I do not know what happened on the Senate floor after she gave her speech? Did any Democrats compliment her or did any Republicans comment on her remarks? Perhaps she should take an hour per day and read the entire report to the distinguished Senators?
She felt it was the right thing to do. She understands there is a process to go thru. It can't be swept under the rug or covered-up, as the eon-long Senator from my home state of Kentucky, seems inclined to do.
If the White House continues to ignore the Legislative Branch of our Government, ignoring subpoenas and declaring executive privilege, in order to keep any witnesses from testifying to Congress, then they are brazenly breaking the laws. They deny Congress the authority granted to them by the Constitution. Yes, they should file contempt charges against AG Barr and Don McGahn, but there is more they can do.
First of all, if the White House continues to stonewall and is successful, then the Congress will have no choice but to take it to the Courts, as I see it. Also, other than contempt charges, they can also levy fines on the individuals. For example, they could fine someone held in contempt, $25,000 per day, as ordered by the Congress of the United States. No one is out of bounds of accountability.
But, if it reaches the point where it goes to Court, then at that time, the Democrats should begin the impeachment process. The impeachment process should last thru the Court's decisions. Then, depending on the judgement of the Courts, the impeachment process would end, or the trial would begin in the Senate.
However, the Senate, led by Mitch McConnell, would not be giving speeches against Mueller and the Democrats only. If the Courts reaffirmed the law, and that is something that not even the leaders of the Senate can escape, then he would have to look at the situation with a different perspective. So that he would not be in dispute of the law, as defined by the Supreme Court. Yes, it is not lost on anyone that the Supreme Court is stacked in the Republican Party's favor.
Should the process go that far, then the next election might be over? Or maybe not? It would be closer to election day.
As Americans, not as Democrats or Republicans, we should strive to do the right thing.
monmouth4
(10,170 posts)kentuck
(112,883 posts)Always great to greet a fellow American.
watoos
(7,142 posts)is a process, that the House needs to hold impeachment hearings and obtain documents through impeachment hearings and interview witnesses.
Regular House hearings are going nowhere. The game plan of Trump/Barr isn't to win in the courts it's to delay in the courts.
Elizabeth Warren may have just moved up to the top of my list for president. I think she was the first person to call for the impeachment of the president from the floor of the Senate. Just think what we could do if we Democrats spoke with one voice regarding impeachment. Democrats should have begun impeachment hearings before the Mueller report came out. Remember, we have only seen a portion of Mueller's report, the good dirt is in the grand jury testimony.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)pazzyanne
(6,611 posts)we can keep the pResident from putting a strangle hold on it every time he goes on stage with one (slight exaggeration intended).
patphil
(7,024 posts)Unfortunately, the Senate Republicans are far from that.
Her call for them to do the right thing will be interpreted as:
Do the very far right thing; that is, fuck the constitution, fuck the people, fuck the nation.
They are deaf when it comes to calls for honor, integrity, and true patriotism.
Patrick Phillips
Ligyron
(7,904 posts)Duppers
(28,256 posts)We caught that last night and I looked for a clip to post for all the naysayers here.
Thank you for posting this.
Impeach hearings now!!