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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI don't think we should put too many chips on Robert Mueller.
I do not think he will try to discredit Bill Barr in any way.
He will say that it was Bill Barr's decision to make, whether or not he agreed with him. That was how the Special Counsel law was written.
He will say that Congress has their rights and responsibilities delineated by the Constitution.
He will admit thst we were attacked by Russia in a "sweeping and systematic fashion".
He will say he called them the way he saw them.
He will not tell the Congress what he thinks they should do.
He will be a very cautious and careful witness.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)C_eh_N_eh_D_eh
(2,213 posts)DownriverDem
(6,671 posts)Sen. McCain was & Justice John Roberts is a repub and they saved ObamaCare. Mueller could very well be looking at how he will be perceived by History. That would be a good thing for our country.
manor321
(3,344 posts)He's going to have to truthfully answer questions, even if he doesn't want to. It's not a press conference.
But it is true that we need to also move on to McGahn and others.
enough
(13,460 posts)He wont have to lie.
Dennis Donovan
(26,846 posts)I sincerely doubt he would stake that for Trump or Barr.
Ninga
(8,625 posts)I hold no hope what Mueller answers will dramatically change the course the Dems are pursuing.
Hope has been dashed too many times. I am battle weary.
Funtatlaguy
(11,800 posts)onecaliberal
(36,209 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I voted for someone who I thought was a forward looking republican. As her party changed, she became more and more a knuckledragger.
elfin
(6,262 posts)He will let the report speak for itself.
delisen
(6,544 posts)Also think that if Mueller is clear and concise in making those statements, they will be useful in making clear to others that we have been attacked by Russia and what our options are right now and moving forward.
KPN
(16,152 posts)states it or not. The RE propaganda machine will go into triple time efforts to obfuscate, confuse and convince the public that by not saying the campaign collided and the President obstructed he is saying that neither of those two things happened. But everyone in DC will know, and all of us will know. It will be up to the House to dig deeper.
uponit7771
(91,927 posts)pintobean
(18,101 posts)Azathoth
(4,677 posts)His fundamental message will be "The report speaks for itself, draw your own conclusions."
DUgosh
(3,107 posts)Or he would not be allowed to speak
luvtheGWN
(1,343 posts)will need to be very, very careful about the questions they plan to ask. I've no doubt they are working on that very studiously. Fortunately there are several members intimately acquainted with courtroom procedures and, as every very good lawyer knows -- only ask the questions which will elicit the responses you want (or at least know to be the truth).
brush
(57,945 posts)was in total agreement with his four-page summary, roll out of the report and lying and stonewalling Congress.
IMO what questions come from the committee members and the answers elicited is what will be relevant. There are ways to get at information, and I don't think Mueller will lie under questioning like Barr did.
But we shall see if he's more loyal to Barr and trump or the country.
pnwest
(3,296 posts)get it out to the public. THAT'S my hope. Then once that information is out in the world, it can be acted upon.
FBaggins
(27,767 posts)He might agree to discuss some of it in closed session, but he wouldnt answer those questions on TV.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)substantial and useful. Mueller seems to have signaled he can do more.
Give him credit for what he has done. This short term adorning him with black hat now, short term before was a white hat. This repeating this black hat/white hat cycle over and over does not do justice to his work.
Mueller will be Mueller.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)That Mueller supports Trumps domestic agenda 100%. We've seen it before with every other Republican. In the end they all fall in line.
It's the party of TRUMP. Conservatives and Republicans are a lost cause.
I never trusted Mueller or any of them. Period!
They are an enemy to this Democratic republic, the more of us whom realize this fact, the better off we'll be.
The only hope and trust is in those who resist and fight back.
The old rules are dead, until the beast is slain.
Know your enemy.
Golden Raisin
(4,681 posts)I've read saying that Mueller's session is tentatively set for May 15th I've seen no specific mention of whether it will be public or closed. Anyone know about that?
PufPuf23
(9,282 posts)Quite unfortunate.
I have pondered why so many put so much faith in Mueller. Mueller is not a Trump-cultist (and is probably troubled and embarrassed by Trump) but he is GOP.
Liberalhammer
(576 posts)Flake, Hatch, Collins, McCain for the most part all voted in lock step because Trump pushed their corporate agenda. Which strengthened Trump. From legislation to packing the courts.
Republicans can no longer be trusted to protect The country and they do not serve the constitution.
3Hotdogs
(13,485 posts)Beyond that, expect as much as we got from Fitzmas. Who remembers that?
ancianita
(38,786 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Catch2.2
(629 posts)Tbh, I feel the Dems won't/can't do anything. Trump will serve out the remainder of his presidency. If we are fortunate enough to elect someone else in 2020, the sentiment will be to not focus on Trump, but to look to the future. Investigations into him will cease, and Trump will have gotten away with everything. Worse, this will now let the Republicans know they can get away with anything.
SayItLoud
(1,735 posts)Thats my only hope.
SayItLoud
(1,735 posts)stop Mueller then we know THEY KNOW that Mueller will deflect, and protect his report and give us nothing but give tRUMP more ammo .
patphil
(7,057 posts)Mr. Mueller is honest and ethical.
He will not lie to the House.
He may not answer every question, but the answers he does give will be truthful.
He is also a true patriot.
He knows what is going on, and how Barr grossly distorted Mueller's report.
I expect there will be some interesting answers.
Also, I think the committee may phrase some questions to allow Mueller to say what he feels about the process, and what was really learned; including perhaps things that were not actually in the report but pertain to the situation.
Such as the subject matter of the 12 criminal referrals that we know nothing about.
Not the content, mind you, but the situations that lead to these referrals.
Patrick Phillips
MadDAsHell
(2,067 posts)There is of course incentive to put a lot of faith in him because of his role in this investigation but I always thought that faith was unfounded. Would we trust Drumpf if he all the sudden claimed to be a Democrat? If not, then why was Mueller, a known war criminal, granted sainthood the second he was heading up this investigation?
I don't grant war criminals immunity just because they may happen to think/say the occasional negative thing about Drumpf, and neither should anyone else on DU, IMO.
H2O Man
(75,709 posts)I think that he will be of interest in the public hearing. I'm not disagreeing with anything you said here, but I do think he will speak about why his team prepared specific parts of the report to be made public immediately. I agree that he won't publicly attack Barr, but I am confident that he will accurately define their differences of opinion. He will also explain why the team's approach on obstruction did not, from the get-go, attempt to decide if there was adequate cause for indictment, were Trump not president.
Mr. Mueller -- for good or for bad -- has always taken a rather black and white approach to determining if someone has committed a crime. I'm confident it will be "for better" for us when he testifies.
Very good OP, and interesting discussion that follows.
kentuck
(112,895 posts)...that Mueller will show the courage to tell all, and it doesn't matter, at this time, whether it is in public or private session. Will he be inclined to say more in a private setting?
If he testifies, I think it will be a good thing.
Unfortunately, Trump has just tweeted that he doesn't think Mueller should testify at all. After all the money spent and all the interviews, it is time to end it. That is the message that the airwaves are more likely to carry, in my opinion.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)sellitman
(11,684 posts)He will be blocked from testifying.
I'm expecting nothing from him.
ElementaryPenguin
(7,849 posts)The guy is a decorated war hero.
He knows Trump's actions were TREASONOUS and that he has designs on destroying our democracy and converting this nation into a dictatorship run by Russia!!! Nothing too serious.
sellitman
(11,684 posts)I don't think it goes any further than that.
kentuck
(112,895 posts)He doesn't like lawlessness.
sellitman
(11,684 posts)Barr is his boss.
Any questions?
kentuck
(112,895 posts)That he calls it just as he sees it.