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Sun May 5, 2019, 10:01 AM

Want To Know The Reason NY TRansit Systems Don't Get Fixed?

Because the money is spent on huge salaries. Below is a sample of the 77 people from the LIRR who are paid over $250,000. The same goes for the subway system where 250 people are paid big money for a system that is a disaster.

"Check out the full list of LIRR employees who were paid over $250,000 last year:
1. Thomas Caputo, Chief Measurement Operator - $461,646
2. Patrick A. Nowakowski, President - $454,288
3. Dallas Bazemore III, Foreman-Surfacing- $395,397
4. Joseph M. Ruzzo, Foreman-Track - $380,407
5. Christopher M. Kroll, Foreman-Track - $354,168
6. Christopher J. Jerome, Foreman-Track - $352,935
7. Ricardo G. Ruiz, MW Repairman Technician - $350,575
8. John E. Nugent, Foreman-Track - $350,056
9. Joseph Balestra, Foreman-Track - $348,522
10. Patrick N. Damboise, Foreman-Track - $339,320
11. Terence M. Glum, Foreman-Track - $327,628
12. Carlos Romano, Engineer - $323,468
13. Claude F. Birong, Foreman-Track - $320,130
14. Robert A. Friscia, Foreman MW Mechanic - $313,355
15. Sanjay Kowlessar, Foreman -Track - $312,674
16. Marco V. Pazmino, Track Worker (A) - $311,162
17. Devnish A. Baird, Foreman-Surfacing - $308,023...cont."

https://patch.com/new-york/sachem/s/gpcmp/77-lirr-employees-made-more-250k-last-year?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_term=traffic+%26+transit&utm_campaign=autopost&utm_content=sachem&fbclid=IwAR2rR1s7G6GFyZsIapi5w-6gJbYjcurAqZ7NoHU4EKGlbMSKJOZPy3hruUo

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Reply Want To Know The Reason NY TRansit Systems Don't Get Fixed? (Original post)
Me. May 5 OP
Me. May 5 #1
clementine613 May 5 #2
Me. May 5 #6
clementine613 May 5 #8
hughee99 May 6 #40
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #3
Me. May 5 #5
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #9
Me. May 5 #10
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #11
Me. May 5 #12
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #13
Me. May 5 #14
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #15
Me. May 5 #16
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #20
Me. May 5 #24
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #26
Me. May 5 #27
marlakay May 5 #17
WhiskeyGrinder May 5 #22
marlakay May 5 #23
Me. May 5 #25
UniteFightBack May 5 #4
Me. May 5 #7
madville May 5 #18
Mosby May 5 #19
madville May 5 #21
Me. May 5 #28
madville May 5 #29
Me. May 5 #30
WhiskeyGrinder May 6 #31
Me. May 6 #32
WhiskeyGrinder May 6 #34
Me. May 6 #35
WhiskeyGrinder May 6 #36
Me. May 6 #37
WhiskeyGrinder May 6 #38
Rambling Man May 6 #33
hughee99 May 6 #39

Response to Me. (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2019, 05:06 PM

1. Visibility

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Response to Me. (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2019, 06:26 PM

2. The real reason is...

... that we have an idiot in the White House who does not care one whit about the people in his home state. Under his administration, he has provided exactly $0 in aid to the MTA. If he cared in the slightest, he could provide enough funding to fix the problems.

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Response to clementine613 (Reply #2)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:00 PM

6. That Is Part Of It

But I will tell, they did a story on this on the local news and at a time when they are raising prices this is raising a lot of anger. Over the last decade people keep asking what they are doing with the money. Mismanagement, I believe is also a problem. It may be that the new transit head will be leaving because he and Cuomo can't get along.

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Response to Me. (Reply #6)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:06 PM

8. No. This is all in Trump's fault

He could fix this in an instant.

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Response to clementine613 (Reply #8)

Mon May 6, 2019, 11:23 PM

40. Exactly! The people of New York would be much better off

If Trump got personally involved in state business!

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Response to Me. (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2019, 06:38 PM

3. When an organization's budget is billions of dollars, these kinds of articles tend to be hit pieces

on unions. Looking at those roles, I'm guessing there's a lot of overtime in those paychecks.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #3)

Sun May 5, 2019, 07:57 PM

5. Actually

I find this article one unions can use because most of the transit workers are not earning anything like what these GUYS are....as far as overtime...it's added on.

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Response to Me. (Reply #5)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:09 PM

9. How would the unions "use" this article?

The contract is what gets the people on this list their high total compensation. If anything, the average person sees this, gets pissed because some yahoo track inspector gets a quarter million a year, and calls for defunding. Open your eyes; you're being used.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:11 PM

10. Will Disagree

I think you're missing the point

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Response to Me. (Reply #10)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:12 PM

11. Spell it out for me, then.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #9)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:14 PM

12. Thes Salaries Are Not The Average...They Are Management

their salaries are not part of the general discussion/bargaining

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Response to Me. (Reply #12)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:12 PM

13. They are not management. They are covered by the collective bargaining agreement, except for

"president." I don't know about the chief measurement operator.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #13)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:31 PM

14. Nonsense

The rank and file have no chance of earning that type of money.

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Response to Me. (Reply #14)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:33 PM

15. Some do, through overtime and seniority and punitive contracts. Contracts the LIRR keeps agreeing

to.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #15)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:37 PM

16. Apparently You And I Are Not Going To Agree On This

As far as overtime..from what was reported on our local overtime boosted those salaries into the stratospheres. And it's not just the LIRR it's tHe MTA also.

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Response to Me. (Reply #16)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:44 PM

20. There's nothing to agree or disagree on.

I'll say it again.

Rank-and-file front-line workers can make a lot of money on railroads, which tend to have complicated, punitive contracts designed to force employers to pay a LOT of overtime, or hire more people.

These rank-and-filers are union members, covered by a collectively bargained union contract, bargained with the employer, and which the employer also agrees to.

They are not management or administration.

Employers would rather pay overtime than hire more people, because the periodic articles that the reactionary press trots out about "inflated salaries" routinely prompt calls from the public to rein in costs in general and unions in particular.

Employers love it when you post the names of workers and the money they made because it takes the heat off them.

You're being used to divide workers. Don't fall for it.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #20)

Sun May 5, 2019, 10:04 PM

24. Like I Said...I Don't Agree With You

and you can hammer at it all night but these are not rank and file salaries and nothing you say will change that.

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Response to Me. (Reply #24)

Sun May 5, 2019, 10:18 PM

26. Why don't you think rank-and-filers can make good money?

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #26)

Sun May 5, 2019, 11:05 PM

27. THey Do

But not that good

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #15)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:42 PM

17. I can tell you as wife of retired train operator

For Bart in SF that the employees while paid a fair salary donít make that kind of money unless special electrical workers on contract not by the hour.

Itís management that makes a ton of money, takes 3 hr lunches and whines when tickets go up itís the employees fault.

I bet New York has the same problem.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #17)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:46 PM

22. As a legacy system, LIRR is going to have a much different contract than BART.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #22)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:51 PM

23. Have no knowledge of that

And havenít followed contracts since he retired other than noticing paying more for healthcare.

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Response to marlakay (Reply #17)

Sun May 5, 2019, 10:06 PM

25. Precisely

No system could afford it if everyone made that kind of money, ever. And anyone who thinks it all one level and equal, equal is kidding themselves.

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Response to Me. (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2019, 06:41 PM

4. Not one friggin woman on the list. nt

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #4)

Sun May 5, 2019, 08:00 PM

7. I Noticed THat Too

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #4)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:43 PM

18. I would guess that there are very few female

track workers employed at any railroad. Most of those positions are track maintenance. That could apply to many trades, you don't see many female electricians, welders, auto mechanics, heavy equipment operators, etc, etc.

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Response to Me. (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:44 PM

19. I have worked in retail management for 20+ years

If I handed out that kind of overtime I would be fired. NO ONE does this other than with government jobs. It's insanely inefficient and a complete waste of taxpayer money.

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Response to Me. (Original post)

Sun May 5, 2019, 09:45 PM

21. Every city has an article like this done every year or so

Many are boosting their retirement calculation by cramming in loads of OT. I am in the SF Bay Area, you see police officers and firefighters here making $250-$400k a year with overtime.

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Response to madville (Reply #21)

Sun May 5, 2019, 11:07 PM

28. THe Point Is

These are not the overtime boosts we always hear about, they are their salaries

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Response to Me. (Reply #28)

Sun May 5, 2019, 11:13 PM

29. NY is an expensive place

I'm impressed with their union for negotiating great salaries then if that is no overtime included.

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Response to madville (Reply #29)

Sun May 5, 2019, 11:54 PM

30. Overtime Is Of Course Part Of A Contact

those these days. You can still under circumstances get 2x, though 2 1/2 is more elusive

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Response to Me. (Reply #30)

Mon May 6, 2019, 08:22 AM

31. "2 1/2 is more elusive"

You can bargain anything, and it's yours if the employer agrees. Many legacy railroad contracts will have extra pay for all sorts of things. I know of one that would add differentials for night work, mileage of certain track, time over 8, time over 12, time over 5 days, time depending on who else was on the crew, differentials for distance over a certain distance, many of which could compound on each other. "Overtime" for these kinds of workers is much, much more than just "double time" or "time and a half on weekends."

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #31)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:23 AM

32. Boy You Really Don't Know How It Works

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Response to Me. (Reply #32)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:28 AM

34. You keep telling me I'm wrong, and then insisting these are somehow base salaries,

when the reporting this patch.com article ripped off indicates these are large OT compensation packages for front-line workers, earned through contract. It's not me that's wrong, it's [Me.].

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #34)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:31 AM

35. I Never Insisted Those Huge PayDays Are Base Salaries

quite the opposite but nice try at distraction

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Response to Me. (Reply #35)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:33 AM

36. Oh, you called them salaries in the OP.

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #36)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:36 AM

37. I Called Them Salaries For The Few

not across the board as you well know and as you can't seem to understand it...done

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Response to Me. (Reply #37)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:42 AM

38. But...they aren't salaries.

They aren't salaries for the people on the list you posted, and they aren't salaries for anyone covered under a collective bargaining contract. It's true that not everyone has the option or ability to make that money in any given year, if that's your beef. But that's the case with any contract, in any workplace.

Union contracts are powerful, and definitely can help erase bias that results in economic inequality inherent in the system, leveling the playing field for a wide variety of workers. But the nature of work means that some skills will be more valued and needed than others, not everyone can do the same job, and seniority will always play a role. If an employer keeps that pool small, the people in that pool will benefit from it. Contracts in these cases will be written punitively, to make the employer pay through the nose to access that talent off hours or in emergencies, but again and again employers prefer to pay more in the moment rather than hire or train more people and risk paying people "to do nothing."

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Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #31)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:28 AM

33. Former contract administrator here

and yes, what you say is correct.

And the employee only gets a piece of a bigger chunk.

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Response to Me. (Original post)

Mon May 6, 2019, 10:58 AM

39. Hmm, I wonder how the logistics work out on this...

ďThe only one who made more than him in total pay was Chief Measurement Operator Thomas Caputo, who had a pay rate of $54, according to the data. Caputo racked up $344,147 in overtime in addition to his $117,499 salary.Ē

So at $54 an hour, x 40 hours a week x 52 weeks a year, it works out to about $112k, so that roughly checks out... how many hours does one have to work to make an ADDITIONAL $344,147?

Well, at $54 an hour, one would have to work an additional 6373 hours, or roughly every hour of every day for 265 days.

Of course, I doubt they were making straight pay on overtime, so letís say it was all at double-time ($108 an hour). Then they only had to work every hour of every day for 132 days.

That means they worked about 5250 of the 8760 hours in the year (when you combined regular hours and overtime), which would mean a 14 hour workday every day (weekends and holidays included) for the entire year.

Anyone willing to put in this kind of effort deserves the money they earned!

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